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Who else is going PC (at least partially) with the incremental console movement?

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Durante said:
Nier Automata would be one of the very few reasons for me to get a PS4. I'm currently thinking about how long to wait whether a PC port announcement happens.
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One of the community managers said on a PS blog that they have no plans "for now" and that it wouldn't be right to talk about that stuff on PS blog, lmao.

I'm just gonna wait. At this point my PS4 is a netflix machine.
 
I got into PC gaming last year, I'm sticking with the base ps4 and if I buy the scorpio it will be primarily for UHD playback. Otherwise, having a PC *for me* has made owning a xbox somewhat pointless( for gaming to be clear).
 
This actually has had the opposite effect on me.

I've been an on-and-off PC gamer for a couple of decades. Most recently, I switched to a PC/Wii U combo this generation and passed up the PS4/Xbone stuff with no regrets (I had been solely a console gamer through the last 2 console cycles). But this bump to consoles might persuade me to give them another look--especially with PS4 amassing a more impressive body of exclusives.
 
I was already PC + Playstation, so no change here.

And frankly, given the investment to keep a gaming PC afloat, I don't see how $299 every 4-5 years (obviously not at launch) would make much of an impact tbh, so imo might as well go console (at least for exclusive titles) and PC.

#shrug
 
Jonneh3003 said:
How does moving to PC escape upgrading a system? Isn't it the same issue?
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Not sure. For reasons to leave consoles, I can think of several. Including: Paying for multiplayer, steam features, extra-steam features, strategy & other mouse-driven genres, lack of defining games on the console, etc.

But the availability of an upgraded console with full compatibility... not sure how that fits in. If I was to guess, I would guess that people think neo games are going to make ps4 games look bad, but I don't think that's the case. In fact, I'm anticipating a ton of "disapointed with neo graphics" threads because the difference will be just not that big unless you have a trained eye.
 
PC + PS4+ Wii U (NX eventually)
That's how I am going to roll going forward. Most of the games are played on ps4 and with frequent sales on physical and digital ps4 games. I don't see the games are cheaper on PC argument holding up much. I have been satisfied with technical performance of the consoles so far barring few games and I don't want to lose the ability to trade games among friends with going full PC.
 
I've generally bought everything while primarily using my PC, but as we've seen, console-exclusive games are becoming less and less a thing.

If I can enjoy solid versions of a few exclusives on my Xbox One/PS4 instead of buying Scorpio/Neo, I'll probably skip out on Scorpio/Neo. I don't plan on keeping up with incremental console updates, and I don't think I can assume anymore that future consoles will have exclusives that I'll want to play (so far the PS4, Wii U, and Xbox One have all been worthwhile purchases, but we're talking a tiny tiny number of games here).
 
Quonny said:
I know, but I'm already "invested" in my leet gamer score on the PS ecosystem.

I'm not saying it's rational, or that those stupid points are important to everyone, but hey, I like 'em.
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I can definitely see where you're coming from, I'm attached to my gamerscore on XBL
 
I've been going more and more towards PC since 2014, and upgrading to a 390 early this year was the step up I needed.

Only drawback is that I still buy competitive shooters on consoles, because I'm playing at a handicap on those with a mouse.
 
It's solidified my decision for sure. Love that Xbox has the "Play Anywhere" initiative because I won't need an Xbox ever again probably and can play all their games on a PC.
 
I've been main PC for the last 2 generations. I don't plan on buying either upgraded console - just sticking with the base model and carry it through until next gen.
 
I'm planning PC in addition to console. I don't feel the need up upgrade. The incremental console doesn't really matter to me at this point since I'm typically not a person who needs "the latest and greatest"
 
I wouldn't say I'm "going" PC as I've had a gaming PC for years now and plan on keeping my X1 an PS4, but I will say that I'll likely not pick up either of the iterative consoles. I'd rather invest that money in to better PC hardware and later better VR hardware. There's just not much the iterative consoles are going to offer to make it worth it. With Microsoft's new initiative, I already have a more powerful Xbox in my PC, and most of Neo's upgrades seem to be mostly about frame rate and resolution. Both of which I can deal with.
 
Finally going to build a new PC but I do plan to get the Neo. With Mircosoft putting Forza games on PC I have no real reason to buy the new Xbox now. I might miss a few exclusives but as long as I can play Forza I am good. Going to keep my regular Xbox One though.
 
Pretty much been full PC. I rent some PS4 exclusives here and there. Bout it. Not investing much into the system.
 
Jonneh3003 said:
How does moving to PC escape upgrading a system? Isn't it the same issue?
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I'd rather upgrade parts than replace whole consoles for environmental reasons.

But as I said, that was only one part of the push for me.
 
I've always done anything that plays better on a controller, get the console version. Shooters and more complex games, PC.

With consoles going the PC route, I'm probably just going full PC and I'll use the PS4 for exclusives.

The latest Steam sale really excited me for some reason and I bought a ton of games I would normally get on console instead. Once the Bluetooth version of the Xbox One controller comes out I'll be using that and during the sale, I bought the Steam Link for when I want to play on my TV.

It does not make any sense to stay console now other than exclusives for Sony.
 
I've always put PC gaming first but have owned every nintendo console since N64. I got the PS2 in it's hey day and bought a PS3 two years after it's release. The only thing that consoles ever had over PC (besides exclusives), in my opinion, is, one, the convenience factor: You turn it on, slap in a game, and you're good to go. No concern about hardware not being up to snuff or waiting ages for download and installation etc. and, two, reliability: the games always work(ed). Period. No concerns about incompatible / inferior hardware, drivers etc.

Nowadays consoles just seem to me like crappier PCs. The two important factors are no longer applicable. We have the inconvenience of installing / downloading and also now have concern that the games may not work at all too.

The only consoles I even remotely consider worth buying since last gen and on (and this is completely personal and subjective) are nintendo consoles. I love my 3DS and Wii U but as pieces of hardware they're both utter trash that I just accept and put up with because I need my Monster Hunter / Zelda / Mario / Pokemon etc. Sony and Microsoft have completely lost me (they never really had me in the first place but that's beside the point).

Being a PC gamer is definitely an enthusiasts club that isn't for everyone but, in my eyes, is definitely the better of the two given a choice.

TL;DR: pcmustardrace
 
Jonneh3003 said:
How does moving to PC escape upgrading a system? Isn't it the same issue?
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Lots of good answers but the big one for me is that your data never needs to change unless you want it to. You can upgrade your PC all you want but you can choose to keep your hard drive data from 15 years ago if you want. Also, if you build a new system, you still have your Steam account and all of your games and they still work. It's ultimate backwards compatible.

I never went digital with consoles because those services shut down a few years after a new console and you may lose your purchases forever. With PC, you could have an 8 year old Steam game or 25 year old download and it will still work.
 
Started gaming on PC since 2011 and didnt fully get into it till 2012.


Now more than ever - gonna be a hybrid console/PC gamer.

Best of both worlds.
 
Jonneh3003 said:
How does moving to PC escape upgrading a system? Isn't it the same issue?
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People who bought a pc way back in 2011 are still riding that hardware today. When xbox one came out they had greater than xbox one performance available in a gpu upgrade that cost half as much as an xbox one, and today they'r alreadye enjoying xbox scorpio equivalent specs for less money than you'd spend on the scorpio next year if they want to.

Meanwhile their entire games library stayed with them throughout what for someone with only consoles would be xbox 360-> xbox one-> xbox scorpio, and all their games automatically become 'remasters' with every gpu upgrade

So while you're also upgrading,it costs you a lot less over time , you can choose when you upgrade and how much you upgrade and you enjoy full 'cross gen' backward and forward compatibility

That's the main issue with iterative hardware for consoles, you're not getting most of the advantages that iterative hardware normally brings with it.

If you're going to be upgrading every few years anyhow then a pc gives you a lot more in return.
 
opulent_lemon said:
I've always put PC gaming first but have owned every nintendo console since N64. The only thing that consoles ever had over PC (besides exclusives), in my opinion, is, one, the convenience factor: You turn it on, slap in a game, and you're good to go. No concern about hardware not being up to snuff or waiting ages for download and installation etc. and, two, reliability: the games always work(ed). Period. No concerns about incompatible / inferior hardware, drivers etc.

Nowadays consoles just seem to me like crappier PCs. The two important factors are no longer applicable. We have the inconvenience of installing / downloading and also now have concern that the games may not work at all either.

The only consoles I even remotely consider worth buying since last gen and on (and this is completely personal and subjective) are nintendo consoles. I love my 3DS and Wii U but as pieces of hardware they're both utter trash that I just accept and put up with because I need my Monster Hunter / Zelda / Pokemon etc. Sony and Microsoft have completely lost me (they never really had me in the first place but that's beside the point).

Being a PC gamer is definitely an enthusiasts club that isn't for everyone but, in my eyes, is definitely the better of the two given a choice.

TL;DR: pcmustardrace
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I always preferred consoles over PC because of that "plug-and-play" factor that consoles used to have. Pop in a cart and play. Pop in a disc, a minute of disc access and play.

It's not that way anymore. Turn console on, firmware check/update. Waiting. Pop in new game, multi-GB software update download. More waiting. Wait wait wait wait. The relative immediacy (or actual immediacy, with a cartridge-based console) of consoles that gave them an advantage over PC is gone.

And mandatory game installs in modern console gaming not only add to the excessive wait time, but they also create more cost/hassle in quickly burning through on-board storage space and creating a need for the purchase and installation of a new hard drive.

Consoles have lost their advantages against PC, in my view. It's why I've dedicated 90% of my gaming budget to non-connected consoles from NES through PS2. No firmware updates when I turn these on. No software updates. No game installations. My only limitation (on some consoles) is memory card space-- but even if I can't save a game, I can still play it. I'm never in a position where I have to decide if it's worth deleting a game from my hard drive in order to purchase a new game.

I probably won't move to PC, but incremental consoles nail the door shut on any further modern console purchases by me. I'll stick to retro stuff.
 
If anything, more iterative consoles make me want to forgo PC gaming. But it'll never happen because there are too many PC only games for me to ignore, and some of my favorite genres are completely non-existent on console.
 
Very likely the ps4 xbone will be the last consoles I buy. With all the steam sales and flexibility of pc moving back to pc gaming (abandoned in 2004) makes a lot more sense now.

The fact that most of Sony's exclusives have sucked thus far (and that xbone exclusives are going to pc) adds more fuel to the fire
 
Seeing the PS4 and Xbone made me go PC already. This iteration or early generation change solidifies my choice. Now with MS going all PC with their games, I see people going PC + Playstation/NX for the exclusives.

Also as a PC user, you have the benefit of getting better experience with ALL old games when you upgrade.
 
Jonneh3003 said:
How does moving to PC escape upgrading a system? Isn't it the same issue?
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Because if I can get an all-in-one solution in terms of a device that not only fulfills the majority of my gaming needs( asides from Playstation and Nintendo exclusives), as well as provide the benefits that typically come with a PC, then I'd rather just have a PC that I can upgrade as I wish as well as one that ties into the xbox ecosystem, then to buy a separate box with fixed hardware that I have to upgrade on Microsoft's schedule. Basically, the day 'xbox on windows', 'crossplay/buy' and 'halo,gears,forza on PC' became a thing I really had no reason to buy a microsoft console anymore. I'm still an xbox customer, just one not tied to their consoles going forward.

As I said before, if I get a Scorpio it would be to use as a UHD player. In fact, for that matter I could just as easily just buy the S coming out soon. I don't need to buy the Scorpio for gaming purposes, when I can stick a 1070 in my PC and give me performance beyond what the Scorpio can provide.
 
Yeah I've sold my PS4 to buy a new GPU (R9 380x). The Division at 60fps pushed me to the PC side.

Still use my Xbone when my wife is using the PC.
 
Jonneh3003 said:
How does moving to PC escape upgrading a system? Isn't it the same issue?
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Well, for one, you can actually upgrade (rather than replace) your system. E.g. an upgrade to > Neo GPU specs will be $230 in a week.

But I think the idea of this thread is more that if you considered upgradability/multiple performance tiers a drawback of PC compared to consoles (not a view I ever really understood, but a common one), then it's no longer such a stark and absolute differentiator.
 
So long as there are still exclusives on consoles, I will continue to play on consoles. I intend to keep using my PS4 and buy an NX. However, since the shared marketplace is coming into effect, I fully intend to dump the Xbone and go full on PC.
 
I already game a few years mostly on PC and enjoying it.
The only thing holding it back imo, is that you cannot play multiplayer games (that are M&K focused) on your TV. It would be interesting to see a COD that has gamepad only servers (with for example the PS4 and/or Xbox one userbase).

That said, I will probably buy a Neo and NX if it's really powerful enough. Naught Dog and Mario is enough to satisfy my purchase.
 
Swapped from primarily PC to primarily console and will stick with that in the future. As I get older the less I care about having something that is the “best” at whatever. Also, our only child is out of the house now, so we have additional room which is now a gameroom, so I have a really comfy place to sit and a large TV. I have my gaming PC setup there as well and sometimes it goes days/weeks without me booting it up.

As far as upgrading consoles as long as they still run the games, IÂ’ll be happy. If I have one that dies or decide to move one downstairs on a permanent basis, IÂ’ll consider the upgrade then. I have no plans on getting a 4K TV until the one I have dies or I decide to replace.
 
I built a gaming rig two years ago and basically have a PC/Nintendo pairing for my gaming (though Wii U....whatev). The only thing I miss out is the occasional Playstation exclusive that catches my eye.
 
I'll be returning to the PC at around PS5 launch, because I don't want to pay full price each upgrade, and be able to upgrade when I want to. I might buy a PSVR though, probably for the above entry level VR experience at its affordable price, as long as it also plays VR videos.
 
Considering how Microsoft has effectively moved everything onto PC, my decision to splurge on a self-made 1080 rig is looking more and more like a good decision, and I'll be looking forward to selling my OG Xbone before the slim comes out.

However I do still very much plan to upgrade my PS4 to whatever the hell their new updated console is going to be. I'm invested enough in Sony's first party lineup to want the best experience possible, and I figure by selling my PS4, Xbone, and my former gaming laptop I should have more than enough to cover the cost of the updated console.

Jury is still out on the NX however, gonna need to hear a lot more about it before I commit to a buy.
 
It's pushed me that direction, for sure.

In the past, I've preferred the console experience, but now with these moves and the growing ease of PC gaming and content, and the decisions on the part of Sony and MS has pushed me away, or at least has done nothing to convince me that they offer anything better.

I will hold onto my PS4 for exclusives and to see how Sony reacts going forward, but as someone with a 360 who was recently tempted to get an XB1 to play online with friends, E3 has only made the Xbox more irrelevant in their integration with the PC market.

And while we know the least about NX, the fact that I can get Nintendo games, and likely way more consistent first party content from them on all their platforms going forward, they already have my support. Not to mention, if they execute their idea of an ecosystem better than Sony and MS, they will be way ahead for me, and going into this new console paradigm, I'm not going to invest heavily in their ecosystem if I'm not happy with how it's executed.

We already know how Steam will continue to work as a platform, but the more Sony and MS become less distinguishable from PCs, the more it seems that the things that they hold onto, that set them apart are not things I want.
 
Not decided yet. I'm tempted to build an RX 480 box instead of get the downclocked RX 480-ish chip in the PS4.5 if I upgrade to that.
 
Durante said:
But I think the idea of this thread is more that if you considered upgradability/multiple performance tiers a drawback of PC compared to consoles (not a view I ever really understood, but a common one), then it's no longer such a stark and absolute differentiator.
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Before iterative consoles became a big idea many people scoffed at the notion of having to both pay money and perform the labor to install the part into their rig. As time has passed this notion's eroded, in large part thanks to the rise of more computer literate users, but there are still those who staunchly keep to that view as an affirmation of their choice of platform. Old habits die hard.
 
It made me double down on PC, but I built my first rig in 2012.

I'll still keep my PS4 but the Xbox is gone. Everything that isn't a PS4 exclusive is purchased on PC.

As a Wii U owner, Nintendo will really have to sell me on the NX. Even then I probably won't buy one until the library is robust.
 
Not because of incremental consoles but because of XBO exclusives coming to PC.

I love incremental consoles plan. Means I get a better consoles sooner than later.

I have always gotten consoles because of exclusives so incremental doesn't change anything for me.
 
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