Phrozenflame500
Member
Super budget (<$300) builds are a bit frowned upon as you tend to get a poor price/performance, but I never see people make fun of people just because they don't want to drop >$900 on a very high spec PC.
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Why Budget PCs are frown upon?
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I was wtf?? OP have u been to the PC build thread like really??? Please can u provide examples because I have yet to come across such things in here.
Sunnington
Banned
I don't know what the OP is talking about.
It's not the hardware in your rig, but the software in your heart.
It's not the hardware in your rig, but the software in your heart.
Dunno man. When people talk down to my FX 6300 I just wanna tell them to go suck an egg. Budget as all hell at 90 Euros but it's doing a way better job then the HD-Twins (last gen are posthumously renamed Sub HD-twins)
People here are generally a helpful bunch though, PC thread has given me plenty of helpful tips
People here are generally a helpful bunch though, PC thread has given me plenty of helpful tips
Head.spawn
Junior Member
What a vague ass thread...
Who are these people shitting on your dreams?
What computer gaming part of the internet does not have a 'budget build' recommendation?
I guess this all just depends on what you consider "budget build". The build a PC thread has great suggestions, the i3/750ti threads have shown people a nice way to match consoles, save money and enjoy the benefits of PC gaming.
When I see someone complaining about a toaster, it's usually in reference to something from early 2000, under a gig of DDR2, barely capable of running League of Legends at 20fps, taking them like 5+ minutes to load into a match. That's not what I would consider a budget build, that's a damn near obsolete computer that you would literally have to go out of your way to find parts that bad.
Who are these people shitting on your dreams?
What computer gaming part of the internet does not have a 'budget build' recommendation?
I guess this all just depends on what you consider "budget build". The build a PC thread has great suggestions, the i3/750ti threads have shown people a nice way to match consoles, save money and enjoy the benefits of PC gaming.
When I see someone complaining about a toaster, it's usually in reference to something from early 2000, under a gig of DDR2, barely capable of running League of Legends at 20fps, taking them like 5+ minutes to load into a match. That's not what I would consider a budget build, that's a damn near obsolete computer that you would literally have to go out of your way to find parts that bad.
outunderthestars
Banned
100% truth right here.
lol
do you have any proof? So far that's just one bullshit statement.
shoryukens
Member
Exactly. Budget PCs are recommended all the time
If you've already got an OS or can get a cheap key from a variety of places, the price to match or exceed the consoles is near identical.
Sir Abacus
Member
I think what mostly happens is people put shitty builds together that make no sense and they get told that they're wrong. When I was working with PC assembly you'd have people that want to put a 4790K with a GTX 650 Ti and you try to gently nudge them to something sensible. Or get them to put in another $50 to go up a massive amount of performance for next to no money.
NoRéN;165173463 said:
I'm pretty sure that was just sarcasm and he was just referring to Hazaro's "I Need a PC!" thread where the opposite happens (all budgets recommended, people are super helpful).
Not sure if serious... Not really a good idea to generalize one platform because of a vocal minority (that exists for every platform).
Solid Samus
Banned
where the shit are all these pc snobs I keep hearing about? in your dreams? you'd think it's an epidemic (and it's not, ignorance toward PC as a gaming platform significantly outweighs e-peening to this day, here at GAF, but even that isn't common these days outside of 'not optimized to the metal' silliness) but some people are just touchy I suppose
PS4 e-peening is why console gaming sucks.
Seriously, it's not like we need thread on top of thread of PS4 elitists shoving down our throats that PS4 is stronger than Xbox! It's downright disgusting. It's all, Digital Foundry this, 1080p that, all the time. Can't PS4 owners talk about anything else? Gosh.
I'm not reaching, or ignorant, I swear! I just choose to interpret everything that gets anywhere close to implying PS4 might have any sort of objective advantages as a platform whatsoever, as elitism to to serve my continued disdain for it and its userbase.
PS4 e-peening is why console gaming sucks.
Seriously, it's not like we need thread on top of thread of PS4 elitists shoving down our throats that PS4 is stronger than Xbox! It's downright disgusting. It's all, Digital Foundry this, 1080p that, all the time. Can't PS4 owners talk about anything else? Gosh.
I'm not reaching, or ignorant, I swear! I just choose to interpret everything that gets anywhere close to implying PS4 might have any sort of objective advantages as a platform whatsoever, as elitism to to serve my continued disdain for it and its userbase.
Crimsonclaw111
Member
Most of GAF seems to recommend the best bang for your buck, if you give a budget.
The only frowning I've seen is anybody recommending an AMD cpu over an Intel, or somebody recommending dual core.
The only frowning I've seen is anybody recommending an AMD cpu over an Intel, or somebody recommending dual core.
Isn't that the benefit of pc gaming?
Jimmy Rustle
Banned
OP, you soft bruh.
I hardly ever see this. Especially on GAF.
I hardly ever see this. Especially on GAF.
Dr. Benton Quest
Banned
TheLaughingStock
Member
I think the only thing that's frowned upon is when folks get mad that their HW can't run x well. Like an emulator or intensive game with a budget pc.
Yeah, I don't think this is really a thing, especially nowhere near to the level you're suggesting.
In fact, more often than not, I see the communities around building PCs strongly recommending more value-oriented hardware choices. That's not necessarily the same as 'budget', but if someone is looking for a budget gaming PC, I rarely see what you're suggesting people do.
Anecdotally, I find most enthusiasts in PC gaming communities want to dispel the myth that you need to spend a lot to have a good PC gaming experience and are more than willing to help find good budget builds.
*The* benefit? Absolutely not. *A* benefit? Yeah.
I'd still buy all games I could on PC rather than my consoles even if the game didn't look any better than the console versions.
In fact, more often than not, I see the communities around building PCs strongly recommending more value-oriented hardware choices. That's not necessarily the same as 'budget', but if someone is looking for a budget gaming PC, I rarely see what you're suggesting people do.
Anecdotally, I find most enthusiasts in PC gaming communities want to dispel the myth that you need to spend a lot to have a good PC gaming experience and are more than willing to help find good budget builds.
*The* benefit? Absolutely not. *A* benefit? Yeah.
I'd still buy all games I could on PC rather than my consoles even if the game didn't look any better than the console versions.
Xisiqomelir
Member
I have a midtier GPU and CPU (GTX 970 and 4670K). I am not embarrassed, and neither am I proud.
Bingo...
It really shouldn't matter, the cpu gets the job done for the price. As far as most of the replies on this thread, I must have read into some posts that come off snobbish and once again, this goes beyond GAF. It's some parts of the community throughout the internet that suggest future builds>>>>budget builds because of reasons. I'm apologize if this thread comes off vague.
Because no true Scotsman plays games on a budget PC.
But "budget" is relative here like, sure, you probably don't want to game on a PC made of spare parts from the mid-2000s that you can buy for $100 off the scrap heap. The experience won't be great. That's taking the budget a little too low for what you're trying to do.
But gaming can be great and perfectly acceptable on a PC that costs $500 sans monitor. It's well below the highest-powered rigs possible that are like $3,000 but you can still have a good experience.
But "budget" is relative here like, sure, you probably don't want to game on a PC made of spare parts from the mid-2000s that you can buy for $100 off the scrap heap. The experience won't be great. That's taking the budget a little too low for what you're trying to do.
But gaming can be great and perfectly acceptable on a PC that costs $500 sans monitor. It's well below the highest-powered rigs possible that are like $3,000 but you can still have a good experience.
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
I feel like you wrote this thread based on an experience you had, but the experience probably wasn't here, so really all it boils down to is complaining about either your friends or some other online community. Based on the whole "master race" thing, I'd guess reddit or 4chan?
NormalFish
Banned
There are very reasonable reasons to recommend an intel CPU over a amd one. Performance, mobo compatibility, whatever.
I haven't even seen this on reddit. I've probably seen it on 4ch but it was obviously trolling.
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
I see no point in budget PCs used for gaming (for myself), but I wouldn't frown upon people who build them, if that's what they need, and is going to be their sole gaming machine. If the OP or anyone else is interested why I feel that way, I can elaborate, but I already did a few times in other threads.
Huevos de Oro
Member
As it should be with us from the midtier masses. Not sad, not proud. We're just...there. Like this
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FTFY
Although, my daughter's PC does have a 1.5GB 260 GTX in it from years back.
I don't care what anyone uses though. I love having a GTX 980, but I use to always buy the GTX *60 in each series. The 660 Ti was the first time I went a step higher than the base *60 series of cards, and even that card can still play darn near everything on High @1080p.
LOL
I consider the 970 to be a high-end card. Anything that costs (new) over $300 is high-end. The 980 is enthusiast, the Titan X or better is hard-core tier.
My friends think I'm crazy owning a $550 video card, and I sort of agree with them....haha
.Corronchilejano
Member
A 970 where I am is top of the line. Anything else is just pushing it. A friend of mine bought one last month and he couldn't be happier with it.
I'm not saying people should feel proud but, if you're happy that everything runs smoothly in it, why not mention it?
Mineshaft_Gap
4077th
Budget PC's are frowned upon because traditionally they have acted as symbols which represent the inequalities in our society. Most experts in the field of video game anthropological research believe that the push toward better hardware is an effort to bring all gamers up to the same level of social status. For example, if everyone runs a Titan X, nobody can be disparaged for being on lower rung of PC gaming society. It's really quite simple.
I've a GTX 970 and a 2500k (a 4-year old CPU), and I'm running just about everything on 3440x1440 at 60fps with everything cranked. Maybe if I'm trying for the latest AAAs I'd have to tone some things down a little, but who cares?
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most of the time for me...texhnolyze
Banned
If that kind of setup is considered mid-tier, then my PC can be considered as super low-tier.
old manatee
Banned
My PC is always top of the line 3 years ago.
bearythebear
Member
My PC has become budget but I don't mind. Use it for lots of stuff, plus indie games. If I wanna play AAA games I got a PS4 to back me up.
It might make more sense to wait a couple years to get a high-end rig though.
It might make more sense to wait a couple years to get a high-end rig though.
People have started referring to high end cards as mid tier due to their misunderstanding of what people mean when they say the GPUs of those cards (e.g. the 970/980) aren't NVIDIA's top end chip.
As far as the actual market for gaming GPUs is concerned, they are high end cards. Titans are ultra-enthusiast level cards, the addition of Titan level GPU (prices n all) was added atop the pile, it didn't push the pile down.
As far as the actual market for gaming GPUs is concerned, they are high end cards. Titans are ultra-enthusiast level cards, the addition of Titan level GPU (prices n all) was added atop the pile, it didn't push the pile down.
appaws
Banned
We are all shrimp dicks next to Smokey...
Seriously though, I post in the build a PC thread a lot...at least I used to before I got F!@##$% busy.
Despite the reputation of GAF for being a negative and snarky place, I think the build a PC thread is the friendliest and most helpful place around!
Sabercrusader
Member
From my time lurking for a few months to now after I've gotten my account. I've never seen an overwhelming consensus that budget PC's are bad here. In fact, I mostly see people trying to help others build the strongest PC they can while staying below $1000.
Of course, that's not to say that I haven't seen some people make posts on how everything needs to be top of the line, but generally I find very few of those posts compared to what I just mentioned. I'm gonna have to side with everyone else here, and ask you where you got the idea that budget PC's are looked down upon here?
Of course, that's not to say that I haven't seen some people make posts on how everything needs to be top of the line, but generally I find very few of those posts compared to what I just mentioned. I'm gonna have to side with everyone else here, and ask you where you got the idea that budget PC's are looked down upon here?