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[Jive Turkey]

Super Stardust HD on the PS3 puts the trophy information on your account just for downloading the demo. That nasty "0%" staring me in the face encouraged me to buy the game.

Same with Wipeout. So stupid.

 

[Lindsay]

Now my biggest problem with them is the inability to delete the achievements. This both prevents the fun of earning them again (thus lowering the enjoyment of replaying) and it also means for the people who are into achievements but like to try out games, they have a bunch of games listed with only a couple achievements.

Ummm why don'tcha just do whatever all the requirements for them again on the next play through? Just cause ya earned them already doesn't mean ya can't do all those crazy required things all over again.

Probably to be like a "wall of shame". So if you played a crappy game enough to earn an achievement it shows. Though games like The Simpsons and Deathsmiles even gives achievements for pressing start. :lol :lol

Diner Dash on the 360 literally gives you points just for purchasing the game. :lol

Why are these things called achievements again? :lol

 

[Chauncy Talon]

I don't know about others but if my 55 platinums got erased by someone "deleting" them, they will feel the fury of my rage as I take their soul...not joking

I dread the day the allow you to delete trophies/achieves, someone can really be a douchebag and delete a WarHawk or White Knight Chronicles platinum off some someones list...watch the 187 afterward on the news

I agree on some accounts, but not being able to delete certain things hurts me. I have a bunch of games without trophies. At least you can delete the games on the 360 if you don't have any achievement. Sony don't allow nothing.

 

[lupinko]

If you have 0 achievements for a game, you can delete it.

ONLY ON XBOX 360.

 

[snap0212]

As you can see by my ranking I'm 611, so there's 610 gamers with better trophy count

I mean 55 platinums = 86,000+ Gamer Score, not that much

Trophies are only 2 years old, achievements have been around for 5+ years

That's crazy... but awesome. Great job!

 

[OldJadedGamer]

ONLY ON XBOX 360.

Well, considering that the Xbox 360 is the only system with achievements that's kind of a given right? He didn't say trophies

 

[KevinCow]

I don't think I have a single platinum or 1000/1000.

(EDIT: Oh wait, I have a 200/200 for Shadow Complex.)

Also:

They can turn good games into great games if the achievements are addictive to get.

lol

 

[Shrennin]

I have always wanted this too, mainly because of renting games that I don't end up buying. I like to have achievements for games I own, not games I try.

 

[BloodySinner]

Forget about deleting. There should be a way to disable them completely.

 

[zerokoolpsx]

As you can see by my ranking I'm 611, so there's 610 gamers with better trophy count

I mean 55 platinums = 86,000+ Gamer Score, not that much

Trophies are only 2 years old, achievements have been around for 5+ years

Wow, that's a lot! I just got my 9th platinum last night.

 

[Slavik81]

Yeah. It's unfortunate that they don't let you. You should be able to decide what things go in your trophy case. Just because some stranger gave me some garbage doesn't mean I want it on display for the whole world to see.

Actually, the real problem might just be that things that you don't care about end up being displayed in there. If there were just a trophy closet, and you could pick ones out of it to put in your main display area, that might solve most of the annoyance with trophies you don't care about.

 

[Curufinwe]

Same with Wipeout. So stupid.

Stupid like a fox; they got my $10.

 

[TheSeks]

Some of you guys having Super Stardust HD and not buying it need to fix that. NOW.

Spoiler

*mumble grumble stupid Shock and Awe and Late Boomer mumble grumble*

 

[confused]

As you can see by my ranking I'm 611, so there's 610 gamers with better trophy count

I mean 55 platinums = 86,000+ Gamer Score, not that much

Trophies are only 2 years old, achievements have been around for 5+ years

how many games do you have that you didn't platinum ?

 

[M3d10n]

Of course they don't allow you to delete them. They need you to go out and buy new games whenever you feel the need for the thrill of getting more achievements/trophies.

 

[epmode]

This thread has proven that I'm completely out of touch with all of you.

I like the occasional interesting achievement but holy shit, hearing that someone actually bought a game just because it added an permanent trophy listing is certifiably insane.

 

[Diablohead]

I like how they are strict, it's a record of your gaming on said console, at least on the 360 microsoft took away the stupid demo's recording to your tag thing.

 

[Jive Turkey]

Stupid like a fox; they got my $10.

I honestly don't know how to respond to this without soundling like a total ass so I'll let epmode do it for me:

...holy shit, hearing that someone actually bought a game just because it added an permanent trophy listing is certifiably insane.

 

[(._.)]

I've never had any interest in getting all the trophies in a Playstaion game. Especially in single player games. It would be kind of cool if you could hide certain achievements if you only got one or two of them for a single game but then again, who cares?

 

[UnluckyKate]

its free marketing.

Best anwser so far

 

[nli10]

It enables me to see which games people frequently start but never finish.

Your 5G in a bad game helps keep your friends away from the rubbish.

 

[DarkJC]

Delete them so you can earn them again? Really?

 

[I'm an expert]

I don't think I have a single platinum or 1000/1000.

(EDIT: Oh wait, I have a 200/200 for Shadow Complex.)

Also:

They can turn good games into great games if the achievements are addictive to get.

lol

Not sure what you're loling at. Yeah there are some idiotic achievements out there like get 9000 random orbs or turn the game on, but there are also trophies that challenge you to try new difficulties, try new modes, or simply try to tackle the game in a different way. They're no different than the perfect runs, level 1 runs, speed runs, whatever runs people have done with games before this generation - except now you get a bit of text that records the fact you did it.

A game like the new Lara Croft game is a perfect example. You'll get some of the trophies for just enjoying the game, then you'll get some more for playing it co-op (a completely different experience) and then you'll get some for perfecting the game and all its challenges. You don't miss out on anything if you simply play and complete the game, but trophies can be an incentive to do something you might not have before and sometimes double or even triple the amount of time you play/enjoy a game. The trophies in that game made a wonderful single player game into a FANTASTIC co-op game because it made me actually invite a friend over to check it out.

I looked through my trophy list recently looking for something to play in my off-time, and saw I hadn't gotten the Resistance 2 level 30 co-op trophy. Remembering how much I enjoyed R2's co-op mode, I popped it in and worked at it. Boom, 2 years after release and I'm still enjoying their game all thanks to a little trophy. That's getting your money's worth.

Achievements/trophies are great when done right. Not everyone who likes them are raging nerds or OCD and have to 100% every game. Some of us just like getting the most content we can for our money. Buying Uncharted 2, running through it once, and shelving it might be how someone enjoyed it, but for me I want to see everything ND put in the game - co-op, multiplayer, crushing mode. Even if I end up not liking that stuff (I didn't platinum U2 since I don't like the kill xx enemies with xx weapon trophies), having a little push from the back from achievements is NOT a bad thing.

edit: Sorry for being a little off-topic. I agree I wish we could clean up our lists a bit since I have games like NBA Live or Madden on my list from friends bringing it over and playing it. I don't mind the 0-1% stuff, I just don't like having games I don't actually own on my list.

 

[a Master Ninja]

They advertise the games you play to other players.
Developers use achievement information to gauge what the player base did and did not do in their games.

And yes, if I could delete trophies and achievements I would in a heartbeat.

 

[Sean]

They should let you delete games that you've got under 20% of the achievements in or something. That would cover those games that you play for 10 minutes and get an achievement or two but never touch again.

When deleting it, should remove your points too rather than just the record of it. That way people can't rent shit like Avatar for the easy points and try to cover it up.

And this should only be available on Xbox.com or something so jerk brothers can't erase your stuff.

 

[alr1ght]

It would be nice. They probably don't do it because of assholes/friends deleting entire collections, thus having to deal with angry customer calls.

 

[Gram Negative Cocci]

This thread has proven that I'm completely out of touch with all of you.

I like the occasional interesting achievement but holy shit, hearing that someone actually bought a game just because it added an permanent trophy listing is certifiably insane.

Can the thread be about this now? Achievements have made some gamers into sick sick people.

 

[vodka-bull]

Because there's a chance that you keep playing them if you've only got 1 achievement without the option to delete it. And thus you may renew your xbox live gold membership or buy some DLC. So basically, it's about the money.

 

[Brazil]

As you can see by my ranking I'm 611, so there's 610 gamers with better trophy count

I mean 55 platinums = 86,000+ Gamer Score, not that much

Trophies are only 2 years old, achievements have been around for 5+ years

C-RAZY.

 

[shattyboombatty]

My guess would be to avoid the pissed off sibling or gf rage deleting. If someone deleted all your progress trophy whores would go mental.

Although I Would like to get rid of some of those stupid 1% games!

 

[Jive Turkey]

You know there would be a real easy solution to prevent stupid friend from pulling a shitty "joke" and deleting achievements/trophies: Failsafe password.

 

[Roto13]

There are six games on my PSN profile for which I have 0% of the trophies. I'd like those to go away.

If I wanted to re-earn trophies I already unlocked, I would use one of my alternate PSNIDs. You don't need Xbox Live Gold to earn Achievements, do you?

 

[Jive Turkey]

You don't need Xbox Live Gold to earn Achievements, do you?

Only the online multiplayer achievements.

 

[Ploid 3.0]

As you can see by my ranking I'm 611, so there's 610 gamers with better trophy count

I mean 55 platinums = 86,000+ Gamer Score, not that much

Trophies are only 2 years old, achievements have been around for 5+ years

I'm proud to have this guy on my flist. The hardest core gamer I know right now. I have 1 plat in comparison (working on bayonetta, I should get back to that, almost there).

This gen showed me how much I really suck at games. I used to be a gaming god in my small town, darn internet!

 

[shattyboombatty]

Only the online multiplayer achievements.

on a related note, what if you're a gold member then you let your account expire into silver status? Do your achievements go away?

 

[GraveRobberX]

how many games do you have that you didn't platinum ?

Hmmm... lets see....

Medal of Honor (1 trophy left, will plat)
Castlevania (50% done, will platinum)
Fallout 3 (60% done, will plat)
Need For Speed Undercover (Just started, will plat)
Need For Speed: Shift (40% done, will plat)
Red Dead Redemption (Just Started...again, will plat)
Dragon Age Origins (work on it soon, will plat)
FFXIII (work on it soon, will plat)
Ghostbusters (91%, glitched trophies, but patched in now, might get it later to plat)
Ski-Doo Snowmobile Challenge (will work on it later, 60% done, will plat)
James Bond 007: BloodStone (50% done, might get plat)
Vanquish (Just started, might get plat)
MAG (Just started, will plat)
Dead Rising 2 (1/3rd done, will plat)
Medal of Honor Frontline (will plat)
Little Big Planet (will plat)
Demon's Soul (will plat)
Demon's Soul (Asian Version) (will plat)
Unreal Tournamemt 3 (will plat)
Mirror's Edge (will plat)
Section 8 (10 trophies left, might get 8, might plat)
Lost Planet 2 (get some more trophies, not plat)
Shaun White Snowboarding (get some more trophies, not plat)
Street Fighter IV (get some more trophies, not plat)
White Knight Chronicles (get some more trophies, not plat)
Skate 2 (stuck @41%, never plat)
Ferrarri Callenge (@1%, never plat)
Battlfield: Bad Company (@94%, never plat)
GTAIV (@50%, never plat)
Warhawk (@70%, never plat)
WipeOut HD (@20%, never plat)

So Breakdown:

Will Platinum: 20
Might Platinum: 1
Not/Never Plat: 10

Both @ 0%, might work the SP, MP is completely dead, and requirements for MP = to ridiculous:

Far Cry 2
FEAR 2

Never getting it past 0%:

Sonic Unleashed (Never putting it in my PS3, unless I have platinumed every PS3 game out there)

 

[Jive Turkey]

on a related note, what if you're a gold member then you let your account expire into silver status? Do your achievements go away?

No. That would be silly...Even for Microsoft.

 

[Mzo]

I asked this question to Major Nelson at his panel at PAX East 2010. Dude said they have no plans to ever introduce that feature because of the aforementioned reason of friends/assholes deleting achievements from other people's systems.

I'd love to get rid of Guitar Hero 3, that game is a piece of shit.

 

[StarEye]

They should add a rule that activates your earnes trophies/achievements only after a certain amount of hours in games or until you complete them. Games that are story-driven or have a campaign mode of some sorts should only activate trophies once you've finished it. But they should have a 20 hour limit before the trophy/achievement activates, so that you aren't forced to play through the main storyline in games like Oblivion, GTA or other stuff like that to get them activated.

Games that aren't really level-based or story-driven (like sports games) should only unlock trophies after a certain amount of time spent on it.

That, or they should give you the option to activate trophies or not (at any point in the game), but once you do, the save is locked to your account and you will no be able to undo this activation. In this case, the accumulated achievements/trophies for the game should be instantly activated.

 

[Mzo]

There's always a super-quick achievement you earn in the first few minutes of gameplay to help lock you down into playing the rest of the damn game.

The only game that didn't do it was Perfect Dark Zero, and I have never been more grateful because it let me delete that flaming sack of shit from my played list.

 

[Deacan]

Fuck you game room is all am going to say.

 

[CadetMahoney]

if you could delete them we'd see so many youtube meltdown videos where a family member/roommate came in and deleted people's achievements. especially those achievements that can take over 100 hours to earn.

then the counterfeit meltdown rmixes.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PbLpytHqBBI

Super Stardust HD on the PS3 puts the trophy information on your account just for downloading the demo. That nasty "0%" staring me in the face. . .

I have re-iterate how horrible that is.

 

[Dirtyshubb]

I wish you could delete 0% trophy scores on PS3, that Stardust HD one is very annoying lol

As for my list, I have 22 Platinums at the moment and should hopefully have my Assassins Creed: brotherhood one any time now (about to get to Level 50 but need AeotM). I do have some that I could easily go back and get but its just finding the time which is hard considering there are always great games coming out.

 

[Siegfried]

Curse you Crash of Titans with your stupid 5gs, forever staining my precious completion percentage of 83.5% with over 200.000 gs =(

Not to mention Guitar Hero games, a type of game I discovered too late that I have no ability at all to play.

I see people say they're slightly OCD. Hell, I'm the OCD definition when it comes to achievements.

And since everyone is telling how many platinums they have, I'm at 134 retail games completed and 22 live arcade games completed.

 

[Haunted]

I was all geared up to hurl some insults towards Tabris, then I saw that I already did it a couple months ago.

What a letdown.

 

[Goldrusher]

Super Stardust HD on the PS3 puts the trophy information on your account just for downloading the demo. That nasty "0%" staring me in the face encouraged me to buy the game.

More games should do that. Hell, let us earn some trophies in the demo.

1. would make more people play demos
2. would make more people buy games

 

[Fortinbras]

I like achievements/trophies because I'm able to track the games I beat. It's not about the score for me. Nevertheless: I'd like to delete some gaming history from my PSN/XBL accounts.

 

[Footos22]

I just wish i could delete infinite undiscovery and star ocean

Damn you Square enix DAMN YOU!

I have 63000 gamerscore (25 completed) and 14 or so platinums on ps3 so i wouldnt really like it if you anyone could just delete them delete them

just the shitty 1 percents and stuff

Bayonetta 1000/1000 and platinum <3

 

[Naked Prime]

I would love to hide the 10G shame that shows people I invested time into Onechanbara. My "I thought it was a hidden gem like EDF 2017" doesn't really fool anyone

 

[The Faceless Master]

ah... old thread bump...

deleting could be a problem for games that give an achievement/trophy that you can only earn once... like "reach rank X online" in games where your rank only goes up.

and hey, for a few weeks on 360, you could delete achievements!