GraveHorizon
poop meter feature creep
done.
Mm-mm-mm. Lilo grew up real fine. As for Stitch... no thanks.
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Why did Lilo fetishize fat people?
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Mm-mm-mm. Lilo grew up real fine. As for Stitch... no thanks.
Nah, there are fat douchebags out there. Skinny ones too. And chubby ones. Basically, what I'm trying to say is.... weight has no correlation to the cool-factor.
I laughed, and then I cried ;_;
pants
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Would a skinny Gabe Newell be even half as santalicious?
moozoom
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If you look at classic Pin Up art, you won't find that many anorexic women.
Chris Sanders's art is highly inspired by these curvy 50's and 60's pin up's, and it shows in his drawings : stylized plump women. I personally highly prefer this look to the usual "supermodel / Barbie" generic look that most of the Disney female characters have.
Everybody and everything in the movie is round and natural looking.
Besides, Lilo and Stitch was directed by Dean Deblois, which has since also directed "How to Train Your Dragon", filmed Sigur Rós concerts and other stuff. It happens that Mr Deblois is nowadays quite plump himself, openly gay, and in gay jargon can be referred as a "Bear"
...and, I have a major crush on this man. Even if he's "fat" by OP's standards, I find him incredibly cute, talented and sexy. (He's partnered to an equally burly and sexy gentleman.)
So I guess it's not a stretch to think Dean and Chris wanted to express that there are many forms of beauty, and that round and plump people ( or "fat" to use OP's term) can also sometimes be beautiful.
Chris Sanders's art is highly inspired by these curvy 50's and 60's pin up's, and it shows in his drawings : stylized plump women. I personally highly prefer this look to the usual "supermodel / Barbie" generic look that most of the Disney female characters have.
Everybody and everything in the movie is round and natural looking.
Besides, Lilo and Stitch was directed by Dean Deblois, which has since also directed "How to Train Your Dragon", filmed Sigur Rós concerts and other stuff. It happens that Mr Deblois is nowadays quite plump himself, openly gay, and in gay jargon can be referred as a "Bear"
...and, I have a major crush on this man. Even if he's "fat" by OP's standards, I find him incredibly cute, talented and sexy. (He's partnered to an equally burly and sexy gentleman.)
So I guess it's not a stretch to think Dean and Chris wanted to express that there are many forms of beauty, and that round and plump people ( or "fat" to use OP's term) can also sometimes be beautiful.
foxuzamaki
Doesn't read OPs, especially not his own
Man, no wonder Lilo's sister was so hot
That's not Lilo's mom. That is Lilo.
Lol @ "how this man got to work on children animation?".
You think people who do some erotic art, can only do erotic art? Or rather, you think any animator have never done a couple of more erotic drawings? I don't see how one affects the other (besides teaching them some kick-ass anatomy).
It's like being shocked that a kinder garden teacher has raunchy sex with his wife when at home.
You think people who do some erotic art, can only do erotic art? Or rather, you think any animator have never done a couple of more erotic drawings? I don't see how one affects the other (besides teaching them some kick-ass anatomy).
It's like being shocked that a kinder garden teacher has raunchy sex with his wife when at home.
Spring-Loaded
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Uh, that is weird to me. Not mind-blowingly weird, but a bit surreal. Like knowing Mr. Rogers probably cursed off the show.
Knowing Johnen Vasquez was approached to work on a Nickelodeon show after doing a Johnny The Homicidal Maniac is a bit odd to me, not at all ashamed to admit it.
Evidently you have an unrealistic and idolized idea of these people.
The fact that Glen Keane (most likely, though i haven't seen any) has some pin up drawings like Bruce Timm's, doesn't mean he's always trying to sexualize his characters.
IIRC, Rapunzel (Tangled's) was inspired by his daughter, for example.
I myself have drawn incredibly gory or depressing stuff, some erotic stuff and some stuff in the vein of ghibli or disney i just consider adorable.
You're not locked into one mind set every day of the week.
teruterubozu
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Fat Polynesians - it's a stereotype.
ElectricBlue187
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It's kind of funny because most people get in good shape before coming to Hawaii. It's actually the Hawaiians who are fat.
NearRivers
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Its clearly a bastardization that should never have occurred, but the scene's with Lilo (I skipped a lot of the other crap) got me right in the feels. D:
The fuck is this shit? My childhood!
America a few decades in to the future.
Do you think Balto fetished blubbery polar bears?
I always enjoyed the aesthetics and looks of Lilo's animations and art direction. Just seems weird to chalk it up to fetishization.
I always enjoyed the aesthetics and looks of Lilo's animations and art direction. Just seems weird to chalk it up to fetishization.
Kai Dracon
Writing a dinosaur space opera symphony
Deleted scene aside, I always took it to suggest a part of Lilo's character: she's a child who loves Elvis and does this her own way. So she sees things her own way - she likes people who others would look down on or say are ugly, etc. That kind of thing.
Maybe it says something then that some people are "disturbed" by Lilo thinking chubby people look interesting.
Maybe it says something then that some people are "disturbed" by Lilo thinking chubby people look interesting.
Femmeworth
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*mind blown* That anime series had three seasons.
This is more fascinating than it has a right to be.
El Pescado
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There was a Stitch anime?! And it ran for THREE SEASONS?! Lilo & Stitch is my favorite Disney movie. How did I not know this?
He didn't. Fred Rogers was the man he portrayed on T.V. in his daily life.
Boss Doggie
all my loli wolf companions are so moe
I hated the anime because it ruined a lot of characterization done by the series as a whole and did shit. It's like PPG Z.
Exterminieren
Banned
Lilo and Stitch has had absolute piles of supplementary and sequel material.
Most of it total shit.
Bobby Roberts
Banned
This is the correct answer.
It's not a fat fetish. It's a joke at the expense of the American Tourist stereotype.
Zoe
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Lilo doesn't even show up until the 79th episode (out of 86). It's set in Okinawa.
teruterubozu
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This DELETED SCENE seems to support your theory:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7L2ZY9UFj60
Essentially Lilo is playing "reverse tourist" by taking photos of them, but the deleted scenes also show that the obnoxious tourists saw her as a "native curiosity". I think the fact that the tourists were fat also (reverse) plays on the stereotype of obese Polynesians.
Rentahamster
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Was there ever an explanation for this? Did it have to do with the movie's "everything must have rounded edges" design philosophy?
I think she took photos of tourists, not fat people. To her, they were new and exotic.
WordAssassin
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If she looked like she does in the concept art, then yes.Are you saying you wouldn't?
More, though NSFW, concept art.
It's not that they didn't want them to look "like Lilo & Stitch" since that's just Chris' style. It's that they purposfully uglied them up because they're cave-people and they didn't want them to be attractive. Look at the full sized image that I posted with Eep in color on the tiger, and you can see concept art for the rest of the family around the edges. It's not like the men were handsome or anything, but sure they weren't the disturbing, broken, nasty pieces of shit that we got in the final film.
Jesus Christ.
You know there are like three sequels and two TV series, right?
First Cajun, now ronito. I don't know if I can cope with all these avatar changes. Its like people I know suddenly having expensive plastic surgery.
WHAT?!
blame space
Banned
lilo & stitch is on netflix!
Would have been amazing if that scene had stayed in a Disney film.
Good Lilo, arguably faithful, horrifying Stitch.done.
Seeing the promo materials of The Croods, I really didn't like the character designs. They didn't seem like Chris Sanders at all, and seeing that concept art made me realize that it was true. But upon seeing them animate on the actual movie, they were handled really well. They way the moved and emoted as all really well done and fun to watch, just like the animals of the movie.
Lilo and Stitch had a lot of cool scenes that should have been left in the final movie.
Like this one about her parents. And the original home invasion sequence.
And of course the infamous plane hijacking sequence that was finished right before the 9/11 attacks.
Lilo and Stitch had a lot of cool scenes that should have been left in the final movie.
Like this one about her parents. And the original home invasion sequence.
And of course the infamous plane hijacking sequence that was finished right before the 9/11 attacks.
Barkley's Justice
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you mean all the fat tourists that invade her space?
Duane Cunningham
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Wooowow. That's fantastic. (and tragic)
Messofanego
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Cause they have quite distinctive and eye-catching art styles. I'm sure many classic artists have drawn sexy stuff since the beginning of time.
the_log_ride
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Naw man, forget that damn anime. Ohana means family! And family means nobody gets left behind or forgotten!
XANDER CAGE
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Yeah, I know. Like I said elsewhere in this thread, it wasn't a complaint. It's just a funny difference between their works.
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