Men are not told their whole or the majority of their worth lies in how they look.
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Why do women always say they're fat?
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TheBahaBlast
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Were her sharp knees exposed?
Lionel Mandrake
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Whenever a girl says she looks fat, I tell her that in apes, the larger females are the more desirable among the pack. They typically respond pretty well to it.
Also when this:
is considered a "plus size model" why wouldn't average women feel fat?
That's a plus sized model? She looks like she is in great, sexy shape to me...
R3TRO
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......Ha!
windowlurker
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Am i going bald?
heh, yeah, my sister, who is not overweight, has done this, but in front of relatives who are definitely obese. I told her later that she might want to tone it down when around them.
it doesn't work that way for males because there is a greater variance in body size and attractiveness for males in the media than for females.
Can I move my "What? Really?" from the other post to this one?
Indeed. "Plus-sized" MODELS (not to be confused with plus-sized clothing) wear clothing sizes 6-12.
If you're a size 6 your waist is probably around 26 inches. "Plus-sized" indeed.
People deal with this stuff in different ways. If you're a girl, the whole world already feels the need to comment on your looks anyways so you're going to have that discussion whether you want to or not. Sometimes it's easier to start it yourself because then at least you feel like you can somewhat control it.
Angelus Errare
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lmao!
freenudemacusers
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it's just a number
Davey Cakes
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Yes, but compare her to typical runway models. In that context, "skeletal" is basically the standard.
Thanks for calling me weak.
There isn't really an equivalent of this (in terms of looks) for men that I can think of, so yeah, I'm not surprised that you would fail to realize how this ends up happening. Mind you, it's not just media. When you hear it from not only all the media you consume but people like your mother every day of your life, you start to believe it.
windowlurker
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BocoDragon
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It's too bad women have been made to feel so sensitive, because the truth is that men are attracted to a wide variety of sizes.
Just try not to be "obese" (men too).
Just try not to be "obese" (men too).
A lot of it is indirectly, but yes, I have been told directly to look a certain way. Thanks for telling me what my life is like though.
with the reduced amount of interactions with what used to be defined as the primary agent of socialization, your immediate family, and the surge in the amount of time spent with a secondary socialization agent, the media, you are, in a way, almost directly told how you should look.
Is it bad that I read the last word of this sentence as asses by mistake.
Fashion designers on the other hand are attracted to ...
Deified Data
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The fashion industry has a fucked view about women that isn't shared by most (straight) men. They want the models to be nothing more than clothes hangers for their ugly new collections.
BocoDragon
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freenudemacusers
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windowlurker
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A lot of it is indirectly, but yes, I have been told directly to look a certain way. Thanks for telling me what my life is like though.
I'm not telling you or anyone how their life is.
The only time I ever reacted to someone questioning my looks or appeal was when my friend David said my hair looked greasy so I laughed and wore lemon juice in my hair for that entire summer.
Do men just handle criticism better?
Fishing for attention, and tbh some women are fat. I notice that on a night out the guys have worked hard and are in good shape, a lot of the women are actually a bit chubby. They were the tight clothes and you can see their stomach sticking out and a few spare tires. They're just good at hiding it with baggy clothes normally. When you get them naked you can see why they say they're fat. I mean they're not fat, fat....but they could stand to lose a good few pounds.
I've seen this first hand.
Jibbajabbawockky
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Also when this:
is considered a "plus size model" why wouldn't average women feel fat?
She is also 6'2" tall, so her weight (180lb according to Wikipedia) will likely seem out of whack compared to a more normal height woman of the same weight.
Kind of silly how anyone would consider her "plus size" though, beyond the fact that she's tall.
you're really just talking out of your ass.
SquiddyCracker
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There are a couple of equivalents for men (balding, fatty, etc), but that's the thing - they are not nearly as as strong as the superficial standards enforced for women.
That's kinda why some feminists complain about a patriarchal and sexist culture, because women alone are indoctrinated from an early age (thanks to constant bombardment from media) to be insecure about the way they look - so that they will buy more make-up and skin products, and just generally feel bad about themselves.
windowlurker
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Imagine my 2-inch penis dangling with milk jugs from a tree
Deified Data
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This is a lot of men's ideal - she could "stand to lose a few" in your eyes but be a total 10 to the guy next to you.
Devolution
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Between this and your average Hollywood or TV starlets size, why should this surprise people that women are critical about their weight?
Also when this:
is considered a "plus size model" why wouldn't average women feel fat?
Bingo.
It's fucking absurd. My wife is about that curvy (I'm only guessing by eye, so I could be super off), and she thinks shes a damn whale. I think she looks amazing. I love hips and thighs and round asses and big boobs. But that's easy for me to say, I don't have quite the same level of body image spamming from the media like women do.
I also try not to be so hard on women that are really skinny. I know some of them simply have that body type. My wife was actually crazy thin when we first met, and she's since filled out. I used to bag on women that were "toothpicks" until I grew up and realized that not everybody is the same (and not every body is the same. hur hur).
I can't imagine how hard it is to constantly have it reinforced that you should "look like this," in practically everything we consume. Here in LA, it's a constant bombardment of media and advertisements telling women what they should look, speak, and smell like. Sure, there's certainly some things aimed at men's body image as well, but, at least for me, it never seemed as crazy in your face as it is for women.
No amount of "Babe, you look fine," from me works, because she thinks I'm just blowing smoke.
I'm not.
Technically yes, but vanity sizing makes that more of a size 2-4 in North America.
windowlurker
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I'm just trying to understand, dear.
If you were under pressure in your class to lose the lbs before a body tracing project, sure.
Manmademan
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"fat" is synonymous with "ugly" for women, which is problematic as a woman's worth/self worth is very much tied to physical attractiveness.
NaughtyCalibur
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Also when this:
is considered a "plus size model" why wouldn't average women feel fat?
WHAT?! And she's seriously far hotter than most models too.
Fuck society.
Dark Octave
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I blame Gaf for that.Also when this:
is considered a "plus size model" why wouldn't average women feel fat?
"dear"? :/
freenudemacusers
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runway models aren't supposed to be hot
Skiesofwonder
Walruses, camels, bears, rabbits, tigers and badgers.
It's annoying. But not nearly as irritating as when the hefty girl gives the "I'm fat and I don't know why" speech while stuffing her mouth with a nachos grande tray from Taco Bell. Everybody at the table just nods in agreement because... What can you really say?
Just today one of my friends told me she's cool talking about it with me because I say the same thing ... and I'm one of the only guys she knows that does this.
Not sure what that says about me lol. Granted, a couple of my friends that are actively trying to get in shape along with me say the same thing ... so maybe it's more that guys typically don't say it to women other than their SO's?
RSLAEV
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But aren't other women just as guilty as men when it comes to pushing these standards?
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