Sucker Punch
Released Infamous SS in 2014
Ghost of Tsushima revealed 2017
Released 2020
Naughty Dog
Released Uncharted 4 2016
Revealed TLOU2 2016
Released 2020
Bluepoint Games
Released Shadow of the Colossus released 2018
Demons Souls Remake revealed 2020
Released 2020
Bend Studios
Development on Days Gone started 2015
Revealed Days Gone 2016
Released 2019
Compared to
Insomniac Games
Spiderman 2018
Miles Morales 2020
Ratchet 2021
Spiderman 2 - 2023
Wolverine - 2024?
We are at the point where these games should at minimum be getting revealed if not close to released
Something has happened to the output of these studios, and I wonder if enough pressure from above is coming throughm Yes games are getting more complex but they are also scaling up at the same time, and Insomniac is an example that you can deal with that
That or Sony just can't be arsed with marketing efficiently
They do but people just don't know they exist because they don't actually care about them. They only use it to show some kind of "change" in a corporation fueled by nostalgia. Look at Sword of the Sea, nobody is talking about it because it's a small game. People don't actually care, they just act like they do.I think it's clear nobody cares about smaller games. It's why Sony doesn't do them anymore.
Just make nothing but AAA bangers like God of War.
Reminds me a lot of Intel's tick-tock product strategy, which was basically slowing down their tech advancement to milk everything they could, which worked for a long-ass time right until the competition sorted its shit out and now their market share is getting devoured HARD.Much like with Microsoft, I think Sony really believed they'd knocked it out of the park here. They've stated in their recent report they're aiming for two big releases every year. This is their "phase 2" strategy played out: two big exclusives, lots of new announcements, and new hardware. I bet there's a lot of head scratching going on for Sony right now.
Thats all well and good but Sucker Punch, Housemarque, Bend and Naughty Dog have all not released or revealed new games in yearsAfter looking at the SpiderMan 2 showcase demo, it looks like it needs a good amount of time in the oven before it's ready, and I can definitely see it being pushed to 2024. That means Wolverine is nowhere near ready to show and shouldn't be expected until late 2025 at the earliest.
Sony Santa Monica just released God of War Ragnarok this past winter so whatever they are working on is just barely starting full production and shouldn't be expected until 2026 at the earliest.
Same deal with Guerrilla Games. They just released their title a few months ago and we shouldn't expect any new game announcement from them for years to come.
All they need to do is show off one new AAA game that looks good, and they win by default. But, if anyone can fuck up a home run, it's Microsoft
But the plurality of that showcase was dedicated to artsy fartsy indie shit that nobody cares about.I think it's clear nobody cares about smaller games. It's why Sony doesn't do them anymore.
Just make nothing but AAA bangers like God of War.
But the plurality of that showcase was dedicated to artsy fartsy indie shit that nobody cares about.
Why? They have FF16 due soon. Then the holiday 3rd party games like Fifa, Cod, Assassins Creed etc will arrive and Spiderman 2. There is also Helldivers 2 and other smaller games.Yeah sure but you don't slow down when you're ahead and allow your opponent to catch up.
The fact PS is killing it right now should mean they load up on the ammo and start firing on all cylinders.
How are they arrogant? Just because they didn't blow their load in one showcase?Because Sony is on top of the mountain and ahead of the game and arrogance is taking over as usual. This is the PS3 era all over again and its pissing me off.
Microsoft sadly is not giving good competition. Jimbo will only pull out the big guns when they feel somewhat threatened.
A boring, snoozefest of a generation on both fronts honestly and COVID didn't help either.
This is a stupid generation, because everyone is trying to recoup and regroup everything after COVID. Real generation won't start until PS6/New Xbox launches. Fucking lame.
They were very selective in what they showed. The big games will get their own State of Play reveals.But they showed multiple games that are 2024 or beyond
Which are all GaaS titles that they hyping because they currently don’t exist in that market
They are trying to sell people on GaaS
They do not need to sell you on Ghost of Tsushima 2
Why? They have FF16 due soon. Then the holiday 3rd party games like Fifa, Cod, Assassins Creed etc will arrive and Spiderman 2. There is also Helldivers 2 and other smaller games.
Why blow your load now?
Also let's see how the MS showcase plays out. They are holding things in reserve just incase.
Because Internet bitches whinge and moan when they see alpha footage.When is ready? 2 years not enough to show something that’s not cgi? What happened to “time to triangle” it’s not like this damn cpu is exotic like the cell? This is what I really don’t understand, development should be soooo much easier compared to before especially with all the procedural crap and ue5. They couldn’t put together something nice?
Maybe that will be the case in the future, but it definitely hasn't been so far.They were very selective in what they showed. The big games will get their own State of Play reveals.
Look at HFW and GOWR. HFW was announced in mid 2020 and was expected to release in 2021. GOWR was announced in late 2020 with a 2021 release date. Sony is no longer announcing games that are more than 1.5 years away. The marketing has completely changed.Sucker Punch
Released Infamous SS in 2014
Ghost of Tsushima revealed 2017
Released 2020
Naughty Dog
Released Uncharted 4 2016
Revealed TLOU2 2016
Released 2020
Bluepoint Games
Released Shadow of the Colossus released 2018
Demons Souls Remake revealed 2020
Released 2020
Bend Studios
Development on Days Gone started 2015
Revealed Days Gone 2016
Released 2019
Compared to
Insomniac Games
Spiderman 2018
Miles Morales 2020
Ratchet 2021
Spiderman 2 - 2023
Wolverine - 2024?
We are at the point where these games should at minimum be getting revealed if not close to released
Something has happened to the output of these studios, and I wonder if enough pressure from above is coming throughm Yes games are getting more complex but they are also scaling up at the same time, and Insomniac is an example that you can deal with that
That or Sony just can't be arsed with marketing efficiently
When the creation of a little trailer is too much of a hassle for a couple hundred men strong dev team, you could film a short behind the scenes look, interview a dev or something just anything would be enough to give an update and keep people entertained. I don't understand the gameplay or nothing mentality. Games far out and ones that release within the next couple months should balance each other out every time.Imo, I prefer the announcement of a game being developed.
It give the consumers something to look forward to, even if the release date is 3+ years.
I'm not a fan of guessing.
We know they have games in development, but the wait for an announcement is a killer.
I wouldn't say it has completely changed, Sony has announced several games they are publishing that will come out more than 1.5 years after release:Look at HFW and GOWR. HFW was announced in mid 2020 and was expected to release in 2021. GOWR was announced in late 2020 with a 2021 release date. Sony is no longer announcing games that are more than 1.5 years away. The marketing has completely changed.
Sucker Punch and Bluepoint's next game should ideally take 4-5 years of development time. 6 months or so should be added to that estimate due to covid as well. Sony isn't announcing games 2+ years away anymore. Both Sucker Punch and Blue Point could be right on track with those estimates, given Sony's announced to release window
Naughty Dog is expected to reveal Factions this year, as stated by its president. It's a GAAS game, so it's release could be imminent after it's reveal. Also, Bend Studio was a support studio until recently. Their new IP most likely just recently began full production, so 2026-7
This is partly true.
Microsoft not delivering is the reason Sony had the showcase they did today.
No reason to show the games in development yet if Microsoft is the way they are now, which has me questioning Xbox's showcase.
The original rumoured justification for not having a showcase last year was that the content wasn’t ready.
HellDivers had a trailer ready to go months and months ago.
Haven did a CG trailer
Firewalk did a CG trailer
Bungie did a CG trailer
Only Spider-Man had gameplay.
I don’t understand why they bothered this time. Spider-Man should have had a State of Play.
They just did one for GoWR. They just did that yesterday.They don't want to do CG logo reveal trailers. It's the thing Xbox E3's used to get a lot of shit for a few years ago.
I think Disney partnership is the reason why Spiderman 2, Wolverine, and KOTOR all got announced early. I don't think Sony would announce these games, especially KOTOR, without pressure from Disney. And Bungie acts completely independent of Sony, so that should not mean muchI wouldn't say it has completely changed, Sony has announced several games they are publishing that will come out more than 1.5 years after release:
Spiderman 2
Wolverine
KOTOR remake
Marathon
And that's if you don't count God of War Ragnarok, Horizon 2 and GT7.
We don't know yet if Death Stranding 2, Rise of the Ronin and Fairgame will release within 1.5 years of announcement, but I'm not too convinced all of them will.
Possibly but we have no proof or evidence pointing to that Disney strategy, especially as Sony is still the publisher. They are also the publisher for Marathon and therefore in charge of marketing.I think Disney partnership is the reason why Spiderman 2, Wolverine, and KOTOR all got announced early. I don't think Sony would announce these games, especially KOTOR, without pressure from Disney. And Bungie acts completely independent of Sony, so that should not mean much
Then the showcase shouldn’t have happened. It’s massively backfired and given the initiative to Xbox.There wasnt anything from Spider-Man yesterday to warrant a solo SOP this far out. I expect one closer to release.
If Microsoft shows GTA 6 or an unannounced Super hero game at their upcoming even, Sony would be forced to show an unannounced exclusive to maintain their momentum.Damn you Microsoft! You're even the reason that Sony is shit now!!
Damn youuuuuu!
Seriously, if you honestly believe the crazy gymnastics your mind just did....Now imagine if Microsoft left gaming and Sony were free to do what they want?
What evidence do you need? It's not like Sony will ever come out and say that Disney pushed them to announce KOTOR before the game ever began full production. Sony never does that shit on their own, so where do you think that came from? Death Stranding 2 getting an announcement in December of 2022 for a 2024 release is in line with HFW and GODR announcement strategy. Fairgame will most likely come out within the next year or year and a half. And Sony will not publish Bungie games, Bungie will. Bungie is independent and surely gets to decide to when to announce its own gamesPossibly but we have no proof or evidence pointing to that Disney strategy, especially as Sony is still the publisher. They are also the publisher for Marathon and therefore in charge of marketing.
I don't see a big difference in how those games were announced compared to how Fairgame and Death Stranding 2 were announced (CG trailer, most with no date).
Any game taking 6 years is excessive. These dev cycles are getting fucking ridiculousWe’ll get nothing from Polyphony, SM & GG for 6 years.
ND’s next single player game is probably 4 years away.
Sucker Punch, probably 2-3 years away.
What could they actually show apart from Factions? I’m seriously worried about the next 2 years for PlayStation.
Stop with damage control guys...They had nothing ready to be showed, end of story.
And lets be honest, its not because they need that much time. Few devs take that long. Usually for groundbreaking, tech showcase titles.Theres other factors involved, and its mainly a money thing.Any game taking 6 years is excessive. These dev cycles are getting fucking ridiculous
Wait are you counting remasters? LolSpider-Man 2 will be Insomniac’s 4th game since the PS5 launched.
If Microsoft shows GTA 6 or an unannounced Super hero game at their upcoming even, Sony would be forced to show an unannounced exclusive to maintain their momentum.
This is what I meant, Microsoft isn't giving Sony a reason to announce games years out.