Huge upgrade? Maybe over a ps4 but ps5 games looks mostly exactly the same. Just often lower res in ps5. I know because I play games on same lg c1 in pc and ps5. Pc for sure uses the c1 up to 120hz but visuals are very similar in general.
Consoles are really contrained (again) by the CPU. Its got quite low IPC nowadays and are lowly clocked. But yeah PC gaming has gotten a lot more streamlined than it used to be. Not quite console level but with a bit of messing around it doesn't take long to set up and play.
Nah PC gaming is legit great.
The premise of this thread is about the framerates. These "next gen consoles" are so expensive as well. What's the point of paying for next gen when they can't even follow through with the technology they claim to have.
What's your experience with the Ally so far?
You're truly amazed that someone might have difficulty with driver updates, hardware compatibility, troubleshooting as opposed to a system where you just put in the disc and/or download? PC gaming is all great WHEN IT WORKS. It becomes less fun when you have to troubleshoot, deal with incompatibilities and weird issues.
True. I have to remember not every game is being played on Steam. Other programs can get finnicky and people can be turned off by all the different launchers. Plus PC gaming is getting it's share of "console war" with launcher wars. Epic Games exclusives really sour people. I think Alan Wake II will flop pretty hard.
The premise of this thread is about the framerates. These "next gen consoles" are so expensive as well. What's the point of paying for next gen when they can't even follow through with the technology they claim to have.
FF16 just came out. It's the exclusive tentpole next gen game for PS5 and it will drop to as low as 720p in frame rate mode. People laugh at Nintendo with that fidelity in a tiny portable console but a refrigerator sized PS5 can't get 4K going. We're already this early into the gen and games are coming out exclusively in 30fps.
I wanted a true next gen experience and jumping from PS4 to PC is more of an upgrade than a PS5 would be.
PS5 is almost just over $700CAD here. So I saved that money and got what I paid for. 4k 120fps is not trivial.
They like to plaster this on their boxes.
God of War Ragnorok; a true exclusive, can't reach 4k in performance mode.
And lastly now we're getting PS games on PC anyways. I'm patient. The Last of Us 1 remake came out relatively fast albeit with bad performance apparently so that's a knock but I'm in no rush to buy that game at full price anyways since I've played it.
I get the best of both worlds. Console gaming is still full of sacrifices.
Sounds tedious for no reason.
Clicking a few "update now" and "download new driver" buttons really won't kill me but I know people are little less patient than I am. I don't remember the last time I turned on my PS4 and had to wait for yet another update to download to the console. Shit is always updating and that extra step to click a link to update is still not a detterent. I'm not denying those problems exist for people but I have been with this PC for over a year now. I have played multiple games old and new and I can't think of a single game I couldn't run with some huge struggle. People are mostly likely trying to play a game way over it's limits or they just have a crap build.
You straight up are actually. You're pretending because you've had a good experience that nobody else.
I'm just astounded that some of you guys manage to find all these issues.
Well good for fucking you! I am glad you have never had any of these issues, but they do exist no matter how much you will deny they don't happen.
Are you saying that everytime you play games on your PC you experience all these issues..?
Well in my case I spend 4 hours of my life building my pc into another case. Just when I thought I was done, i found that my 90 degree cable would not work my ssds and had to remove my gpu to put in the new cable because of it's sheer size.
Wait, you messed up when doing actual hardware changes, and somehow that's "evidence"..? That's extreme mental gymnastics.
No. I am an advanced PC user. I've built PCs for 10 years. But I've had my fair share of weird issues that required some pretty weird troubleshooting to overcome. See my posts above.
The premise of this thread is about the framerates. These "next gen consoles" are so expensive as well. What's the point of paying for next gen when they can't even follow through with the technology they claim to have.
FF16 just came out. It's the exclusive tentpole next gen game for PS5 and it will drop to as low as 720p in frame rate mode. People laugh at Nintendo with that fidelity in a tiny portable console but a refrigerator sized PS5 can't get 4K going. We're already this early into the gen and games are coming out exclusively in 30fps.
I wanted a true next gen experience and jumping from PS4 to PC is more of an upgrade than a PS5 would be.
PS5 is almost just over $700CAD here. So I saved that money and got what I paid for. 4k 120fps is not trivial.
They like to plaster this on their boxes.
God of War Ragnorok; a true exclusive, can't reach 4k in performance mode.
And lastly now we're getting PS games on PC anyways. I'm patient. The Last of Us 1 remake came out relatively fast albeit with bad performance apparently so that's a knock but I'm in no rush to buy that game at full price anyways since I've played it.
I get the best of both worlds. Console gaming is still full of sacrifices.
I really hate SATA cables and I mean hate them with a passion. So many cases force HDDs into tight spaces and many PSU makers dont have the power SATA cables designed in such a way to easily fit in those right spaces. The day that I am done with HDDs and go all NVME can't come soon enough. There has not been a single build of the last 10 years where I haven't been forced to put an uncomfortable amount of strain to get those plugged in!
Dude, I talked about plenty of issues in my previous posts. Go read them.
Going by the photo you're playing on PC and console on the same screen, correct? No offense but I really don't understand why you don't prefer PC, like all the time. You get better graphics, better framerates, higher resolution and mods on PC and you can sit on the same chair and watch the same screen and use the same controller. What am I missing?I am absolutely fine with 30 though. I had the most fun this year playing ff16 in quality mode.
Not ever 30fps mode is bad. The experience with ff16 was stunning and worthy of displaying in hdr on lg c1 for sure.
I did felt next gen playing this. 30fps or not.
I would feel how much better playing it on pc at 120fps (maybe) ? hard to say. It would be better but 5%? 10%? No idea for me
yeah i play both on there. Secretlab chair so rather comfy.
I've seen some of your posts, without any deeper analysis it seems like you simply don't like knowing things could possibly be better if you did something. So having options, even if you don't need to touch them, distract you so you end up fiddling with that instead of playing games. Am I close?
ANd we agree. A Pre-biuilt is a solid way to go.These are, like you said extreme examples. If you are an average user and dont want to read what memory goes into your motherboard buy a prebuild pc.
I have no idea how to change oil, brakes or other stuff in my car either. I still want to drive a nice car and dont deal with that. I heard there are people out there that can do this for you.
Switch Emulation now works incredibly well. I did an 80+ hour playthrough of Tears of the Kingdom at 4K/60. Not every Switch game runs great, but its far and away the definitive way to play Tears of the Kingdom.
That's a "you problem". You could work on the same room you play or have a TV/monitor to play on your work room.
But it also happens on consoles, not shader compilation per say but just plain stutter / traversal stutter.
And then it looks like this
I'll take a few shader compilation from the bad ports (while many good ports) over that.
Better analogy ever.
if small built PCs exist... you can build one. You don't have to be 'average' if you don't like the size.
