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Why Driveclub means more games should be delayed
- Thread starter Loudninja
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Good things come to those who wait basically.
derExperte
Member
The rest are mostly reasonable points (although I wonder how messed up the game must've been a year ago) but this? Come on, you don't have to try to put a positive spin on everything.
Developers having more time = Game will be better
drotahorror
Member
A few months for weather?
*cries in a corner*
*cries in a corner*
Guerrillas in the Mist
Member
I shudder to think what it would have been like if they were forced to release it on it's original release date.
Developers having more time = Game will need to make more money to recoup the costs, too.
This is basically advocating for higher budgets, albeit dressed up in a different form.
uncledonnie
Banned
Plenty of games are delayed and still turn out to be shit. The game was scheduled to release a whole year earlier, so while we clearly don't and won't know all the reasons for the delay, it obviously points to a lot more than a need to polish. Even with the extra year it's still not going to have everything at launch (i.e. weather).
I'm glad it was delayed. It looks spectacular and I can't wait to play it. I question though whether there are lessons to be learned here that apply to a non-negligible number of other games.
I'm glad it was delayed. It looks spectacular and I can't wait to play it. I question though whether there are lessons to be learned here that apply to a non-negligible number of other games.
flyinpiranha
Member
If a company can afford it, sure. But that's not always the case. Also look at what DC is going up against now, the early holiday rush. It was a pre-order/bought for me, but things changed, cancelled my Amazon pre-order and will just play the PS+ edition.
Delays work when all the pieces fall into place, but I think DC is an exception, not the rule. This delay has worked for them. The game has massively improved but it's going up against other big titles now.
That said, it does look absolutely gorgeous and maybe the PS+ version will sway me into a full purchase. But with pCARS for the PC coming out soon, DC is more of an arcade racer backup to my main sim racing while if it wasn't delayed I would have been playing the full version for a while before AC and pCARS went final.
Ha, this too. Why release now! We could delay even more and make it even better!
Conspiracy Theory: I think the OG DC was going to be more like KI on the XB1 and they decided to flesh it out into a full game because there is going to be YEARS before we see a Sony exclusive racer (namely GT7) on the system.
Delays work when all the pieces fall into place, but I think DC is an exception, not the rule. This delay has worked for them. The game has massively improved but it's going up against other big titles now.
That said, it does look absolutely gorgeous and maybe the PS+ version will sway me into a full purchase. But with pCARS for the PC coming out soon, DC is more of an arcade racer backup to my main sim racing while if it wasn't delayed I would have been playing the full version for a while before AC and pCARS went final.
Ha, this too. Why release now! We could delay even more and make it even better!
Conspiracy Theory: I think the OG DC was going to be more like KI on the XB1 and they decided to flesh it out into a full game because there is going to be YEARS before we see a Sony exclusive racer (namely GT7) on the system.
Umm they said this year so could be 1 or 2 months.
Also day and night cycles are in already.
Exactl what I am pondering now too. Once a developer locks in and decides, "this is it, i need to make my piece du resistance and it isn't perfect yet so I need to delay some more to be better and use new features the team has learned..." - the basically start the doom clock that most of the time will result in anti-hype and less sales and less brand development. Isn't it always better to think small and build upon that?
djplaeskool
Member
Before the end of the year means less than two months.
This game still looked absolutely great a year ago. I think the biggest benefit would be any extra content they've been able to do in this time.
But either way, very few studios are going to get the benefit of an extra year of development on top of the original deadline. That's a huge increase in costs.
But either way, very few studios are going to get the benefit of an extra year of development on top of the original deadline. That's a huge increase in costs.
Thursday War
Banned
delay it again
AbandonedTrolley
Member
Yep must have been a brave guy that went to the Sony bosses and asked for another year of production budgets. Certainly looks like it will have off though as it has some of the best graphics I think I've seen. Certainly one of the first to truly look next gen to me.
lazer_bean
Member
Do you mean "why games shouldnt be announced too early" ?
Oppo
Member
yeah, that's what I was going to say. delay the announcements.
SEGAvangelist
Member
Maybe it helped the game to be better, but I feel Drive Club will be overlooked because of the delay and release date.
flyinpiranha
Member
Ha, well played.
Jackbooted
Member
Randy Pitchford am cry.
Having a full year delay on DC and weather isn't ready for this launch seems to speak volumes as to the low-level the game was at when it was originally supposed to launch.
SerTapTap
Member
It's on PS+ which like half of PS4 owners have I thought? No way it's going to be overlooked. I definitely prefer this to a Knack/Killzone situation.
MaxwellParrish
Member
That's not necessarily truth. The usual way to respect deadline can be outsourcing assets and hire project workers , and both of these practises can carve higher on a budget that just a delay (I'm sorry for my bad english !)
publicpwnerer
Member
There's a general problem with Ubisoft where they try to overachieve...and the whole "too many cooks" thing.
I love their games, but it's a fairly consistent problem considering their methodology of using multiple studios / hundreds, even up to a thousand+ devs on a single game.
As for Driveclub and many other AAA games....for such a big investment, why rush it? Rushing it could not harm the game, but the IP too.
Months are made of weeks.The weather update is months, not weeks after release?
I suppose that's one way to combat early trade-in.
I've actually pondered the same thing before. Delay it another year! Give me that photirealism!
Oh god please don't just give it to me now.
It's on PS+. It's guaranteed eyes and an audience.
PetriP-TNT
Member
Haha what the crap, I thought that the delay was for the weather system. It was for day-night cycle?
In that 'people also search for'... have Maserati called a four-door Maserati a four-door Maserati?
OnionPowder
Member
Probably just wanted it for launch and were setting completely unrealistic goals for everybody.
Naughty Dog didn't have to put together a game for a hardware launch deadline.
I seriously don't think the graphics were ever in question. It could have launched a year ago and still been absolutely amazing looking. Its gotta be the content that needed expanding. I'm sure they've enjoyed taking the extra time to spruce up the visuals as well, but an entire year just to make an incredible looking game a bit more incredible looking just isn't believable whatsoever.
cookie-monster
Member
Isn't this a bit premature?
Let's see the game launched before we consider this properly. Graphical updates don't excuse a 12 month delay.
Let's see the game launched before we consider this properly. Graphical updates don't excuse a 12 month delay.
That depends on how the initial deadline is created. Certainly if you're unexpectedly delaying a game, then either you've already spent those outsourcing costs, or you were never going to hit the original deadline in the first place.
Naughty Dog are huge, Sony probably doesn't "demand" anything from them. Sony probably pressured Evolution to have a racing game at launch to compete with Forza, and it didn't work out.