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the human race sold 8 billion copies and yet it's the greatest failure on earth, whats ur point
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Why God of war can continue forever but Uncharted can't?
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SeraphJan
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Very on point.
Every franchise serves its own targeted audience, as long as that audience base is pleased (judging it financially or by metrics) I don't see any reason for an IP to magically disappear.
It could be mechanic driven games like Zelda or Mario, It could be multiplayer shooters like Halo, or it could be games that focus on storytelling and presentation such as Uncharted and Last of Us, they serve different demographic.
I'm all in for variety.
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Uncharted will come back at some point but it won't be with Nathan as protagonist. Hopefully they avoid the overplayed and cheesy route having his daughter following the father's steps. Uncharted 4 ended perfectly, no reason to ruin it. Find new characters or use Chloe and possibly Charlie from 3.
The real question is who will make the game. If it's not Naughty Dog, the new studio will have an uphill battle.
The real question is who will make the game. If it's not Naughty Dog, the new studio will have an uphill battle.
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yurinka
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Yes, I think it's super obvious that games that get great reviews, win many GOTY awards and sell over 10 or 20 million copies (case of TLOU, GoW, Uncharted, Mario or Zelda) have more than enough audience for more games, and that it's stupid to ask them to don't release more of them.
Even games that sell between 5 and 10M copies, have good but not great reviews and that don't get GOTY nominations keep getting sequels. So if there's audience for these more average ones there's audience for the more successful ones.
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Stare-Bear
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But I thought women are too woke to work in videogames?
Thirty7ven
Banned
Don't listen op. Uncharted only needs a break to later come back just like God of War. And it will come back, it's a huge franchise.
sono
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You can have endless games about treasure hunting. However if the characters are mortal natural aging is the limiting factor.
We have had young drake, mid drake and old(ish) drake. Drakes brother. There are still opportunity for more.
Drakes family tree says hi
Was someone in the tree called Lara
Drizzlehell
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Treasure hunting has a lot of potential for a variety of stories and legends centered around historical events, famous explorers, wartime events, lost civilizations, etc. It's a near-bottomless well to draw upon. I would only imagine that it could get a little stale if the characters wouldn't evolve in any way throughout the series, which is what they attempted to address with Uncharted 4. But no one says it's impossible to go back in time and revisit some of the earlier adventures of Drake that took place in between the existing games, or even follow up the series with a sequel that stars his kid or something.
Bernardougf
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Uncharted with a strong female protagonist very soon near you ... bet my car on it
elcapitano
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There's always been this thing in gaming where for little reason some gamers tolerate some studios only making a single game/IP but yet for others they heavily criticise them if they do that.
Hell we are seeing it now with Sony as you said. Lots of people are insistent Naughty Dog have to make a new IP but yet we have Santa Monica and Guerrilla making multiple entries in there series and there is little clamour for them to change.
My personal point of view is the Devs should make whatever game they want. Look at how many Halo, Zelda games there are etc etc.
Hell we are seeing it now with Sony as you said. Lots of people are insistent Naughty Dog have to make a new IP but yet we have Santa Monica and Guerrilla making multiple entries in there series and there is little clamour for them to change.
My personal point of view is the Devs should make whatever game they want. Look at how many Halo, Zelda games there are etc etc.
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Spyxos
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I have never heard that before. I think both series can go on for a very long time.
If you've played through part 4, you know that it's very likely to continue with the daughter.
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Whitecrow
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Drizzlehell
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That's not even a bet, it's a guarantee with druckman as a writer.
Edgelord79
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Every story needs to have an end at some point.
yurinka
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According to you Nintendo should stop making Mario and Zelda games? And MS should stop making Forza and Forza Horizon games? Square should kill Final Fantasy? Capcom should kill Resident Evil and Monster Hunter? EA should kill FIFA and Take 2 should kill GTA?
The recently released God of War is the fastest selling PS exclusive ever, got great reviews and many awards. Of course it should continue.
In addition to Nintendo and Xbox fanboys asking to kill the most successful IPs, this is another reason of why some people -and some higher ups at Sony / Naughty Dog in particular- want to kill Uncharted: because it has a white cis male as protagonist and for the wokism this is 'problematic'.
They already removed him from Lost Legacy, but at least not with a golf club as in TLOU. Sony/ND should stop messing with their iconic IPs and characters, and the -by far- their biggest customer demographics, because by going too woke they may lose the support of a big chunk of their fanbase.
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Portugeezer
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Don't worry, we'll still be playing dude raider as Nathan Drakes offspring, Connor (formerly Cassandra).
Portugeezer
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It's worse than that, some people are double dippers, triple maybe, even more!
Many many dips.
Drizzlehell
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They still didn't miss an opportunity to put Sam Drake in it, though, so that strong and diverse female heroines could have someone to push around and make fun of.
Like, I can still remember how Chloe and that other chick had an exchange in which they joked about killing all white dudes or whatever.
Intersectional feminism: where gender equality means punching down white men.
TheThreadsThatBindUs
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Uncharted and TLOU should take a break before we get sequels. Both can go on forever in terms of coming up with compelling stories to tell in those worlds.
The gameplay, however, of those games is a pretty common formula across gaming, which means that gamers get fatigued by too many entries in the series in a short span of time.
If Sony released sequels to Uncharted and TLOU after 5 yrs, everybody's bodies would be ready for them. If they announce a new GOW tomorrow, gamers would lose their fucking minds because we know the story would be epic but also the gameplay is just that compelling and unique too (there just aren't that many stamina-based combat action games in the AAA market---other than Souls games and those have shit story-telling).
The gameplay, however, of those games is a pretty common formula across gaming, which means that gamers get fatigued by too many entries in the series in a short span of time.
If Sony released sequels to Uncharted and TLOU after 5 yrs, everybody's bodies would be ready for them. If they announce a new GOW tomorrow, gamers would lose their fucking minds because we know the story would be epic but also the gameplay is just that compelling and unique too (there just aren't that many stamina-based combat action games in the AAA market---other than Souls games and those have shit story-telling).
Batiman
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Why not?
AndrewRyan
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I played through Lost Legacy last year and the gameplay and overall formula feels stale now. Same goes for TLoU but not part 2 for some reason. Loved them in their time but now my tastes have moved on a bit. Don't feel that way about GoW where the gameplay still feels engaging.
Moriarty1889
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Either one can go on as long as the devs decide to make another installment. That holds true for any IP. Uncharted has a lot of life left with so many stories that can be told.
ZoukGalaxy
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Woopah
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Would it be less trash if he had a straight son?
SlimeGooGoo
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Woopah
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Then the gender and sexuality of the protagonist is irrelevent.
SlimeGooGoo
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Woopah
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Do you really think that I am "badass" for agreeing with you?
NightmareFarm
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In gaming spaces, I find that people often adjust their approval of an idea to whether the idea is/has been implemented.
If GOW didn't get rebooted and someone said there should be a reboot with boomer kratos and his kid, everyone would shit on him.
If GOW didn't get rebooted and someone said there should be a reboot with boomer kratos and his kid, everyone would shit on him.
EverydayBeast
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Uncharted 4 will be a classic, every exclusive is chasing one another. I didn't play the recent god of war I'm saving my money for a sale, so, there's no doubt there's a new uncharted being cooked in the lab given how big Nathan drake and the franchise is.
SlimeGooGoo
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Woopah
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I'm not playing games.
We both agree that, when it comes to the quality of the next Uncharted game, the sexuality and gender of the protagonist is irrelevant. That's all I'm saying.
I'm just trying to have a conversaiton with you, there's no need to be hostile.
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PixelatedBeast
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Stop it. Amy Henning quit, and left Neil Druckman to pick up the pieces of Uncharted 4 while he was working on TLOU. She left her previous co workers hanging mid development. Probably was angry she didnt get promoted after 3 successful games.
She came out years later and made a non apology, acknowledging how important it is for the industry that a studio like Naughty Dog makes high production value games.
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Champomade
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what about tomb raider but you play as the dad trying to rescue Lara?
Or would womenchildren cry as well?
SlimySnake
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Its hilarious how Neil turned the second half of the game a couple's therapy simulator. No one wants to play that trash. Even people trying to save their marriage.
What's even worse is that he completely ignored sam in that second half. The game was supposed to be about sam and Nate, elena and nate had already sorted out their issues in the last three games.
DeepEnigma
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But gosh forbid a man crave his adventure in life, where the woman knew what she was getting into and was a damned investigative journalist neck deep in dangerous places herself.
Fbh
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I don't think this is true.
I think what most people don't want is another Uncharted that's basically just more of the same. Same way most people weren't asking for more of the same after GOW Ascension.
It wasn't until GOW 2018 that people seemed to get back on the GOW hype train and that was a sort of a soft reboot.
Uncharted needs a GOW 2018 moment. It's just that by the nature of these franchises I think GOW had an easier time reinventing itself because changing mythologies already gives them a whole new world with a lot of pre established lore and Iconic characters, enemies and gods. The whole idea of "Kratos vs other mythologies" is something fans had been talking about for many years before GOW 2018 so it was easy to see why everyone was quickly excited.
Egypt seems like a logical next step and if they change up the gameplay in a similar way than they did from GOE Ascension to GOW 2018 I can definitely see people being hyped about it.
There's definitely ways to re invent Uncharted. Personally I'd love to see a focus on actual exploration, fun traversal, clever puzzles and a return of the supernatural elements (maybe with a new and bigger focus). But I don't know if it's something everyone would be instantly on board with vs "What if Kratos.....fights Ra, Anubis and Osiris"
I think what most people don't want is another Uncharted that's basically just more of the same. Same way most people weren't asking for more of the same after GOW Ascension.
It wasn't until GOW 2018 that people seemed to get back on the GOW hype train and that was a sort of a soft reboot.
Uncharted needs a GOW 2018 moment. It's just that by the nature of these franchises I think GOW had an easier time reinventing itself because changing mythologies already gives them a whole new world with a lot of pre established lore and Iconic characters, enemies and gods. The whole idea of "Kratos vs other mythologies" is something fans had been talking about for many years before GOW 2018 so it was easy to see why everyone was quickly excited.
Egypt seems like a logical next step and if they change up the gameplay in a similar way than they did from GOE Ascension to GOW 2018 I can definitely see people being hyped about it.
There's definitely ways to re invent Uncharted. Personally I'd love to see a focus on actual exploration, fun traversal, clever puzzles and a return of the supernatural elements (maybe with a new and bigger focus). But I don't know if it's something everyone would be instantly on board with vs "What if Kratos.....fights Ra, Anubis and Osiris"
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sloppyjoe_gamer
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Because Neil Cuckman is a woke man bitch and has made ND a Last of Us studio
sendit
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Uncharted needs a reboot. God of War is basically a reboot. The Last of Us will get a part 3.
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Shh
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Not with that attitude.
The Alien
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Go back and play each.
Then try to imagine a sequel with a different setting.
God of War woty mythoology from Egypt, Middle East, South America, etc.
Uncharted.....just another adventure quest for a random McGuffin.
I like both series, but while good quality, the past few Uncharted games were really stale. UC3 was my least fave by a mile. UC4 was good but crazy long and repetitive IMO. I couldn't imagine being excited for a UC5 anytime soon. And FWIW, love TLOU, but as the Walking Dead has proved, yiu can only do so much with zombies before interest wanes.
Opinions vary. Thi is just my take.
Then try to imagine a sequel with a different setting.
God of War woty mythoology from Egypt, Middle East, South America, etc.
Uncharted.....just another adventure quest for a random McGuffin.
I like both series, but while good quality, the past few Uncharted games were really stale. UC3 was my least fave by a mile. UC4 was good but crazy long and repetitive IMO. I couldn't imagine being excited for a UC5 anytime soon. And FWIW, love TLOU, but as the Walking Dead has proved, yiu can only do so much with zombies before interest wanes.
Opinions vary. Thi is just my take.