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Why is everyone obsessed with Wii U specs and graphics?
- Thread starter sazzy
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I don't think you're allowed to feel that way. Pick a side and fight for it, now.
Always-honest
Banned
If you don't care, then why should everybody else not care also? You think you have some superiour mindset?
I don't think people are obsessed with graphics, or expect a ps4, they just want reassurance that a potential console purchase won't be instantly out of date. The wii was pretty bad on large HDTVs.
Also I think people are imagining how amazing a new mario or zelda might look on a capable platform.
It does when you can just build a pc.
Because there are two sides to the debate--two extremes, if you will. One side of the extreme suggests that the Wii U is on par with current-gen, and can't do anymore than an Xbox 360. The other side suggests that Wii U will be on par with PS4/720, and that it should be able to do whatever those systems do with very little compromises.
Why do we have these two extremes? And why are they so rampant throughout the forums? Because lack of information. This lack of information propagates fanboys of each company. MS/Sony fanboys that will demean the Wii U suggesting that it will be in the same position as Wii, compared to its competitors (even though this is technically impossible at this point in time), and die-hard Nintendo fanboys that suggest Wii U will be pretty much as powerful as PS4/720. Obviously, this isn't true, and those die-hard Nintendo fanboys I mentioned are not nearly as common as those MS/Sony fanboys since they've found solace in the Wii U community thread, where they can get informed without harsh MS/Sony fanboys demeaning them. Oh yeah, there are also trolls about.
Getting back to the point, people need to get informed. Just because we lack a technical fact sheet about the technical specs of Wii U doesn't mean that we know absolutely nothing about it. We can speculate based on solid rumors, confirmed reports, and intelligent breakdowns of certain possibilities. If you want to carry on with intelligent discussion about tech-specs, check out the Wii U thread in the Community. We know that the two extremes are a load of bullshit based on what we have deduced about the system for more than a year.
There are level-headed informed people about, but they don't feel the need to correct every piece of misinformation out there. Why? Because most of that misinformation is provided by fanboys and trolls, and there is no point in trying to convince them until they clear their minds, and are willing to have an intelligent discussion without the clear trolling that has been going on for a while.
Why do we have these two extremes? And why are they so rampant throughout the forums? Because lack of information. This lack of information propagates fanboys of each company. MS/Sony fanboys that will demean the Wii U suggesting that it will be in the same position as Wii, compared to its competitors (even though this is technically impossible at this point in time), and die-hard Nintendo fanboys that suggest Wii U will be pretty much as powerful as PS4/720. Obviously, this isn't true, and those die-hard Nintendo fanboys I mentioned are not nearly as common as those MS/Sony fanboys since they've found solace in the Wii U community thread, where they can get informed without harsh MS/Sony fanboys demeaning them. Oh yeah, there are also trolls about.
Getting back to the point, people need to get informed. Just because we lack a technical fact sheet about the technical specs of Wii U doesn't mean that we know absolutely nothing about it. We can speculate based on solid rumors, confirmed reports, and intelligent breakdowns of certain possibilities. If you want to carry on with intelligent discussion about tech-specs, check out the Wii U thread in the Community. We know that the two extremes are a load of bullshit based on what we have deduced about the system for more than a year.
There are level-headed informed people about, but they don't feel the need to correct every piece of misinformation out there. Why? Because most of that misinformation is provided by fanboys and trolls, and there is no point in trying to convince them until they clear their minds, and are willing to have an intelligent discussion without the clear trolling that has been going on for a while.
If you care about getting the best and most recent graphics and multiplatform games then you would get them all on PC. If you are interested in getting them on WiiU or any consoles then graphics probably aren't that big of a concern to you.
To further clarify my position, WiiU multiplat games will be a few steps below 720/PS4 and less graphically impressive and if your willing to accept this then graphics must be low on your priority list, and in which case why would you care if 3rd parties are on board or not? besides for nintendos sake.
Also Gamecube was powerful and stronger than the PS2 but still missed out on a boatload of 3rd party games. iOS platforms are weaker than Vita and it gets way more support. The history goes on and on and thus power is not directly related to whether or not a platform gets 3rd party support.
To further clarify my position, WiiU multiplat games will be a few steps below 720/PS4 and less graphically impressive and if your willing to accept this then graphics must be low on your priority list, and in which case why would you care if 3rd parties are on board or not? besides for nintendos sake.
Also Gamecube was powerful and stronger than the PS2 but still missed out on a boatload of 3rd party games. iOS platforms are weaker than Vita and it gets way more support. The history goes on and on and thus power is not directly related to whether or not a platform gets 3rd party support.
For many posters on GAF is that really a concern though? Aren't most of us likely to be planning for either a gaming PC or a PS4/720? I don't think that many on here will be expecting the WiiU to be their only source of gaming for the next 5-6 years
Phoenician_Viking
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This side of the forum is a gaming forum, and the WiiU is a new console. Of course gamers will obsess over it. Like every other new gaming hardware. What a silly question.
I agree with the sentiment but it doesn't really hold up once you start looking at all the multiplats that never see a PC release.
Monty Mole
Member
Your rule, your loss. I really couldn't imagine missing out on games like Uncharted, Gears or even something like Fez just because I had a "one console per gen rule".
Nintendo consoles are all about Nintendo's games and have been since the N64 days. Wii U isn't going to suddenly change this. If you don't like Nintendo games enough to buy a Nintendo console for them, they of course that's your prerogative. But third party support and specs isn't what's stopping you.
this is just straight up factually incorrect.
I don't think this is the least bit true. Just my opinion, but I think Sony and Microsoft will continue to put out beefy hardware which they will sell for a loss, and people will continue to buy it.
les papillons sexuels
Banned
I'm just excited that I wont have to by a next gen platform for several years, especially with the wii-u giving developers incentives to keep pumping out ps3 and 360 ports.
also, i love weaker hardware, games would never look nearly as good as they do on PC if it weren't for the optimization processes developed to combat the weaker hardware in consoles.
also, i love weaker hardware, games would never look nearly as good as they do on PC if it weren't for the optimization processes developed to combat the weaker hardware in consoles.
sazzy
Member
What I mean is, regardless of how powerful the next PS and Xbox are, for all practical purposes, PC games will have the best graphics.
So if someone is really obsessed with awesome graphics, why not go for a PC instead of the next PS or Xbox?
Wii U will have great graphics.
Next PS and Xbox will have better graphics.
PC will have the best graphics.
So why diss the Wii U and then go for the next PS or Xbox instead of the PC?
then explain "Playstation Move" and "Kinect"...?
XANDER CAGE
Member
Better hardware can (note: can, not 100% DOES ALL THE TIME) lead to better games. The insinuation that Nintendo is "more about the games" is disingenuous and kinda insulting to developers working on other platforms.
Because I want something that is substantially better than what I have right now.
I'd rather play on a console and I am a Mac user. I don't enjoy using Windows at all.
I'd rather play on a console and I am a Mac user. I don't enjoy using Windows at all.
I already answered this. Sadly, there are still such things as console exclusives. If there weren't I honestly wouldn't give a shit.
CambriaRising
Member
Well said.
No one said it was. Some people are just saying its disappointing.That is all. No one is going to kill themselves over it.
I enjoy good production values and immersion and raw horsepower is one of the key components of that. Every 3D game is better with better graphics. Third-party support presumably relies on near-parity with the other new systems. The console is objectively better with better third-party support, the depth of third-party libraries on PS3/360 are insanely good compared to the Wii. Dolphin is by far the best Nintendo related product of last-gen and its not even from Nintendo. Etc. etc.
Why wouldn't people want to know whats under the hood/what its relative performance is? Who doesn't want the best bang for their buck? Who doesn't want the broadest amount of third-party support possible?
People will speculate until they have solid information or until the evidence is out there to judge for themselves.
Why wouldn't people want to know whats under the hood/what its relative performance is? Who doesn't want the best bang for their buck? Who doesn't want the broadest amount of third-party support possible?
People will speculate until they have solid information or until the evidence is out there to judge for themselves.
NinjaBoiX
Member
Why does, huh? What's going on in here! Everyone is taking in crazy, disjointed sentences.
"We pretty much know what the Wii U can do, the next xbox and ps are likely to be a lot more powerful. Saying 'settling for ps xbox next' makes no sense."
"It does when you can just build a PC."
What? What's the connection?
Well, that's added another 10 pages as people pretend that better hardware never makes for better games.
If Graphics are at the top of your list for 3rd party games you wouldn't get a PC? The vast majority of 3rd party console games also get a PC version, most of them with all the features of the console versions. All the heavy hitters this fall like Borderlands 2, Darksiders 2, Sleeping Dogs, Dishonered, BLOPS2, MOH:Warfighter, AssCreed 3, NFS Most Wanted, Hitman Absolution, Far Cry 3.
The few that I can think that won't be on PC are Madden, Tekken, and ??
If graphics are not on the top of your list then that means you value other things more than graphics, others things that the WiiU may do really well? (ie.Online capabilities, playing with friends, or something like that)
Now now. GCN was more powerful than PS2 and still managed to not get third party support.
This, basically.
Most of us would buy it anyway just for Nintendo games. It'd just be nice to not see other third parties ignore it in case they can come up with a good idea that'd be enhanced by the Wii U's controller, or perhaps even make some exclusives they wouldn't consider otherwise due to being unable to share tools or have the safe fallback of porting elsewhere later, or simply due to the perception it's a "real console" and thus they take it more seriously.
Again, those of us who care about graphics already have a PC. Exclusives are the issue here.
Mihael Mello Keehl
Banned
Yep. Were done here.
Doesnt matter though when Nintendo shows off games we havent seen uet instead of focusing on stuff like the gamepad people will LOLz 5 year tech the thread to death.
unrenowned
Member
Because the Wii burned me graphically since it looked like shit on my HDTV, if I buy a console today it should look great on whatever TV I will have in 2014.
Because the Wii was so far behind the other consoles in graphics/performance is was left with zero 3rd party support aside from casual games, I don't trust Nintendo and 3rd party anymore.
Because I see no reason to "upgrade" to a Wii U from my current console since the only added value is the controller screen functionality.
Because I don't trust Nintendo when it comes to online functionality.
Because I have a capable PC.
Because the Wii was so far behind the other consoles in graphics/performance is was left with zero 3rd party support aside from casual games, I don't trust Nintendo and 3rd party anymore.
Because I see no reason to "upgrade" to a Wii U from my current console since the only added value is the controller screen functionality.
Because I don't trust Nintendo when it comes to online functionality.
Because I have a capable PC.
Chittagong
Gold Member
Because there will be a short window in time when Nintendo, once in 20 years, has the most powerful console in the market. So it's historically pretty unique and thus interesting.
I don't think that either of those panned out very well for their respective companies. Especially Move. Kinect was successful sales wise, but I don't think it has been successfully integrated into a deep "core" game. Also, these were both add-on pieces, never integral to the system. Just look at Vita. Even with the success of the DS, Sony put everything into the Vita's hardware.
I agree with you, and I didn't mean to imply that other companies aren't about the games. Obviously many PS360 games couldn't have been done on the Wii even with dumbed down graphics. I just meant that Nintendo is trying to give a unique experience in terms of UI and control, while the other companies are going to attempt to give a unique experience in terms of hardware capabilities. Also, Nintendo's business approach is different in that they look to profit from their hardware from day 1, which would be very difficult to do at a reasonable price given the expectations of "next gen graphics".
SquiddyCracker
Banned
Because specs are fun to know, and graphics are pretty.
Yep. gotta have the Nintendo exclusives, so a Wii U is essential. For everything else, I have my gaming PC connected to my TV with a wireless 360 controller.
not interested in any sony/microsoft exclusives apart from pixeljunk.
People view having what is a widely recognised "best" (i.e. most powerful) gadget or device as a status symbol, and part of their identity. The simplest measure has always been the raw specifications, or simply having the "best looking game ever". System war trash talking now is all about graphics and whatever handful of (entirely fucking derivative) exclusives are better.
As PCs aren't a definable single spec, and are not really simple for the layman consumer to understand as well as quickly going out of date, they just don't get bracketed in this area.
It's basically just insecurity.