LegalEagleMike
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Why is NeoGAF more far-left compared to most sites/forums?
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Not in the threads I read.
Saint Gregory
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The idea is that all posters are supposed to feel comfortable here unless your ultimate goal is to make people uncomfortable with your posts. Being highly moderated doesn't automatically equal being exclusionary. There's no purity tests in these parts.
teruterubozu
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Surprised Evilore+Obama photo hasn't been posted yet.
Maybe he did, but they weren't as vocal about it that's for sure- I remember at a poll Sanders actually did come on top, but the Hillary supporters are more consistent in their involvement in political threads (same faces and whatnot) whereas the average Sanders supporter would drop a comment here and there but not participate as much in the discussion.
gutter_trash
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I find GAF to be Center-Left, not Far-Left
GAF have lots of gun defenders
GAF have lots of gun defenders
BRocknRolla
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It's a weird thing to say, and definitely paints with a broad brush, but I don't think you're wrong.
I've seen plenty of people get banned for misogynistic or racist posts, and those would seem to be the same sort of people that would fall under a far-right mentality. It's a very sad state of affairs that one of the two political parties in the US seems to generally stand with those ideals.
Ray Wonder
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You can say it in that way, I guess.
VendettaRed07
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ElectricBlanketFire
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Yeah, I have nothing to base it on so you're probably right.
FairFriend
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Perhaps because gamers are mostly younger people? Though of course not all the young people think the same
Jag
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It's actually one of the reasons I like GAF. I have some right leaning views (mostly fiscal), although I'm socially liberal. I'm also older (gamer since the early 80s), so i like to see how the younger/left thinks. GAF also has an international following as well. So it really does offer up thoughts and information that's pretty unique.
I have had to curb some of my curmudgeonly, right leaning posts for fear of getting banned, but it's a small price to pay I guess.
Best thing I can say about GAF is it has changed my viewpoint on issues I would not have otherwise thought.
I have had to curb some of my curmudgeonly, right leaning posts for fear of getting banned, but it's a small price to pay I guess.
Best thing I can say about GAF is it has changed my viewpoint on issues I would not have otherwise thought.
I don't think GAF is far left like that. The more extreme socialistic tenets don't find a lot of voice here. Overall, I'd say we're just inclusive. Conservatives without backwards social opinions will find voice here. Pretty sure there are some folks from the UK who are right lean and they post regularly and no one berates them and good discourse happens. It's when people come in with overly nationalistic, racist, misogynistic and sexist comments and posts that they get deservedly banned. Ain't nobody got time for that.
The Giant
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It sucks. As a Aussie, we love to mock and joke about anything around world including ourselves. Even if the news is so horrible. Us Aussie will joke about it, since Australian humour uses alot of dark humour. We joke about how one of our prime minsters disappeared while swimming. Hence the saying "Doing the Harold Holt"
I was gonna post in a certain gaming thread that (insert name) should do the Harold Holt. But that would have got me banned
I was gonna post in a certain gaming thread that (insert name) should do the Harold Holt. But that would have got me banned
Needs to be repeated.
Bacon_Boss
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I don't think inclusiveness and open mindedness are a left thing. And neither is college education, like some would suggest. The right is not defined by bigotry.
I do think however that there is the illusion of under representation, because when you're having fun with someone, you assume they're just like you. There are plenty of Republicans on this forum, they're just not the Confederate flag wieling, brain dead stereotypes you think they should be.
I do think however that there is the illusion of under representation, because when you're having fun with someone, you assume they're just like you. There are plenty of Republicans on this forum, they're just not the Confederate flag wieling, brain dead stereotypes you think they should be.
Already Torn
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We skew older, we have a lot of Europeans, and we have good moderators that don't allow intolerant or rude behavior, which unfortunately comprises the entire rhetoric of the GOP nominee.
QuantumZebra
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Because in America we have separation of Church and State!
which absolutely no one seems to recognize or respect
This too.
As another poster said - a lot of right-leaning folks have a hard time going 12 rounds in a debate without exposing some form of racism/sexism/insult-driven mindset (happens to me constantly on Facebook.... but I tend to bait people).
The ones that do and can tend to stick here.
This is exactly it, simple and concise.
Father_Brain
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I wish it were actually far left, lol.
teruterubozu
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It's hard to say really. First and foremost this is a gaming site so a majority of posters do not discuss politics. Most GAFfers don't visit OT and an incredibly small percentage even know that PoliGAF OT exists. Furthermore, those who frequent OT know that right-wing politics is discouraged.
It's easy to think that a few hardcore posters in PoliGaf/OT is ALL of GAF, but it's hardly the case at all. Most people here would rather talk about Pokémon Go or Final Fantasy.
It's easy to think that a few hardcore posters in PoliGaf/OT is ALL of GAF, but it's hardly the case at all. Most people here would rather talk about Pokémon Go or Final Fantasy.
NoblesseOblige
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GAF has spoiled me in being able to actually speak without being labeled some evil ess jay double-yew. Now I can't post in other communities without being treated like I'm trying to kill video games!
BRocknRolla
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Your average video game player, sure. Your average gaf member? Probably a lot older than most other forums.
Prax
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GAF seems to be mainly pragmatic progressive. So centre-leftish and somewhat dogmatic when it comes to things such as finances/life skills stuff. Upholds intellectual/well-sourced discussion along with pockets of randomness/zany stuff like pooping threads. Idealistic or extreme views get regularly shunned if it doesn't seem sensical or credible.
Which is fine by me.
I heavily applaud the moderation for the upkeep of forum discourse.
Which is fine by me.
I heavily applaud the moderation for the upkeep of forum discourse.
Because being an atheist/agnostic in public office kills your approval rating. So politicians constantly talk about faith to win religious people over. It's really stupid.
Strict moderation standards around civility weed out most of the hard right. Also, being a forum based around a hobby enjoyed mostly by the educated and well off weeds out a lot of outside-the-mainstream views. So that ends up placing GAF at its current center-left political position, with a healthy true-left minority.
The American left basically doesn't exist without very religious African American voters and staunchly Catholic Latino ones. The sort of secular liberal who powers Europe is a minority even among the American left coalition.
The American left basically doesn't exist without very religious African American voters and staunchly Catholic Latino ones. The sort of secular liberal who powers Europe is a minority even among the American left coalition.
I would say that several of us are much more left leaning than we let through in moderation. And some of us aren't. As a result of policy, NeoGAF is center left at best.
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It's a video-game forum. Video-games tend to be consumed by the younger demographic, the younger demographic tends to be more liberal. In addition, the moderation team are very punitive towards those who transgress certain liberal norms, which even further reduces the number of non-liberals; and conversely this attracts certain minority groups protected by liberal norms who feel threatened in other forums.
rokkerkory
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Blame Trump
Penny-Arcade's forum is further left, and their commendation system really feeds that dopamine drip of gunning for social points rather than creating and continuing thoughtful discussion. GAF might go overboard sometimes with people re-quoting great posts or meme gifs, but there's nothing worse than every single post being an attempt at affirmation.
Indeed.
Makes this place really great to be honest. I mean, the requirement of being a decent human.
CalamityPixel
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Moderation I guess, if they are left sided than so will the forum be.
SomethingAwful's debate board is more left than NeoGAF and especially used to be so when the openly communist sub-board Laissez's Fair was around.
NeoGAF is not far left. It is a very technocratic liberal site with progressive social leanings. There are a number of us socialists here but we are outnumbered. We're tolerated rather than banned however because the far left has good intentions and can be debated with while the far right does not and can not.
Zoe
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Seriously. Just look at how many people suddenly denounced him the first time his tax plan got (incorrectly) analyzed.
Pankratous
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Don't they then run the risk of losing the sensible people?
Pretty much this.
And as someone who's in a minority on two (and a half) accounts, I love GAFs off-topic. Bigotry gets called out almost immediately and doesn't get a chance to prosper much here.
captmcblack
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It's funny to read threads like these - here, or on other forums or offshoots where users drift off to - and read about how "restricted" you feel here.
I've never felt like I couldn't post something here, unless it was just just stuff being posted to be a dick or a troll for "fun". They even fought to un-censor certain words that might get censored elsewhere, so the last thing I think of when thinking of GAF is restriction/groupthink or a lack of freedom. Everything and everyone is welcome here in full without question, just like it was in 2004 (!) when I started - as long as you follow the rules.
Anyway, I don't agree that GAF is necessarily specifically "left-leaning", as I've seen many conservative posters here before. It's just not a good time to be conservative, since the current conservative movements in America (and worldwide, tbh) aren't interested in reasonable discourse with measurable/quantifiable facts and not spin as the primary point of discussion, nor are they interested in the possibility for changed minds/positions in those discussions.
Right-leaning discussion is welcomed and honestly encouraged...but you gotta have receipts when you talk in here. I will say that the leash is much shorter for "it's just a joke, bro" type trolling or jokes/comments on religion/sex/politics than it used to be back in the day - but if you can show and prove without being a dick, you can still get away with toeing the line here...and that's best for everyone.
I've never felt like I couldn't post something here, unless it was just just stuff being posted to be a dick or a troll for "fun". They even fought to un-censor certain words that might get censored elsewhere, so the last thing I think of when thinking of GAF is restriction/groupthink or a lack of freedom. Everything and everyone is welcome here in full without question, just like it was in 2004 (!) when I started - as long as you follow the rules.
Anyway, I don't agree that GAF is necessarily specifically "left-leaning", as I've seen many conservative posters here before. It's just not a good time to be conservative, since the current conservative movements in America (and worldwide, tbh) aren't interested in reasonable discourse with measurable/quantifiable facts and not spin as the primary point of discussion, nor are they interested in the possibility for changed minds/positions in those discussions.
Right-leaning discussion is welcomed and honestly encouraged...but you gotta have receipts when you talk in here. I will say that the leash is much shorter for "it's just a joke, bro" type trolling or jokes/comments on religion/sex/politics than it used to be back in the day - but if you can show and prove without being a dick, you can still get away with toeing the line here...and that's best for everyone.
It's message board ostensibly centered around a youth-oriented hobby with an international membership and heavy moderation against intolerance and general shitposting. That pretty much naturally will tilt it to the left.
I don't really think it's far left, though. Maybe towards most social issues, perhaps, but not nearly as much in terms of economics or foreign policy.
I don't really think it's far left, though. Maybe towards most social issues, perhaps, but not nearly as much in terms of economics or foreign policy.
Netherscourge
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I don't see NeoGaf as being more far-left.
I see it as being less far-right and more even-minded actually.
I see it as being less far-right and more even-minded actually.
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