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Jarate said:
there's a great book called Billion Wicked Thoughts: What the Internet Tells Us About Sexual Relationships that talks about why men love dicks so much.

here's a snippet of a lecture one of the authors on youtube that briefly talks about why men love dicks

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p-A8GvUehq4
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"Shemale porn is one of the most popular kinds of erotica for heterosexual men"

Ok, I gotta watch this to see how that is explained. Thanks for this, I'm learning neuroscience at the moment so this should be fun.
 
pizza dog said:
Congrats, you are part of the problem!
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What problem? The fact that videogames are played by men more than women? What? How am I a part of that again?

???

smh

Edit: Welp, I've done what irks me about alot of posters here like to do. I responded to a thread without fully reading the OP. My apologies.
 
Fiction said:
That makes me feel a bit better actually, I didn't know they did the angle thing. Cause some of the porn penis I've seen seemed physically impossible.
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there are sites out there that use prosthetics. a buddy of mine showed me some of it at a place that was called monstersofcock. looked ridiculous and was obviously fake. if I stumbled across one of those in the wild I'd probably try to beat him up with it.
 
Fiction said:
I think everyone is susceptible to insecurity; I am not overweight by any means, but since I am not incredibly underweight like I used to be, I feel fat as hell. And yeah, a lot of it has to do with how women in media look.
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How long were you underweight for? I'm 21, 5'10, and only way 120 pounds. :(
 
SmokyDave said:
I'm not buying it. I think your theory places too much importance on infrequent and peripheral threads.


And you think 'occasional penis chat on the off-topic side of a games site can be immature' is a likelier reason?

Nah. That dog ain't gon' hunt.
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I think it's more that when we call ourselves out as women, when it's relevant to the topic, we sometimes get bullshit, and in other times, sexist attitudes dominate, as discussed. Those two things a) tend to tie to juvenile behaviors, b) are more easily ignored by other men, and c) combine to create an environment not so friendly to women.

edit: to address your edit: obviously I don't think penis chatter drives women away, because as I said, I posted in that thread. Being called a liar or ignored in that thread when I've had quite a lot of penis in various parts of my body, however, does not make for a pleasant forum experience.
 
SmokyDave said:
And you think 'occasional penis chat on the off-topic side of a games site can be immature' is a likelier reason?

Nah. That dog ain't gon' hunt.
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No, but the fact that so many threads concerning women or issues that women feel are important turn into a 'lol would/would not' fest, a 'lol get back in the kitchen' fest, or a 'stop being so sensitive' fest is a pretty good reason.
 
Dax01 said:
How long were you underweight for? I'm 21, 5'10, and only way 120 pounds. :(
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squats and hamburgers

Miss Riot said:
there are sites out there that use prosthetics. a buddy of mine showed me some of it at a place that was called monstersofcock. looked ridiculous and was obviously fake. if I stumbled across one of those in the wild I'd probably try to beat him up with it.
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sounds like something from saints row

the beating up part.
 
hey_monkey said:
I think it's more that when we call ourselves out as women, when it's relevant to the topic, we sometimes get bullshit, and in other times, sexist attitudes dominate, as discussed. Those two things a) tend to tie to juvenile behaviors, b) are more easily ignored by other men, and c) combine to create an environment not so friendly to women.
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I don't think that's the underlying reason that there are less women here in the first place, I think it's likely to be a consequence of there being less women here in the first place.

Fiction said:
No, but the fact that so many threads concerning women or issues that women feel are important turn into a 'lol would/would not' fest, a 'lol get back in the kitchen' fest, or a 'stop being so sensitive' fest is a pretty good reason.
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As above.

The bolded (or similar sentiments) would be immediately bannable here if said with any degree of sincerity.
 
Dax01 said:
How long were you underweight for? I'm 21, 5'10, and only way 120 pounds. :(
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Hmm...I started keeping the weight on around 2007ish, but I was 5'9 and 115 lbs for soooo long. Around 2007 I started staying up at around 130, but now I am hovering in the 150 range and feel like a freaking hippo. :(

Miss Riot said:
there are sites out there that use prosthetics. a buddy of mine showed me some of it at a place that was called monstersofcock. looked ridiculous and was obviously fake. if I stumbled across one of those in the wild I'd probably try to beat him up with it.
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For some reason, that is the most amusing mental image I've had all day. And I'd likely have the same reaction.
 
SmokyDave said:
I don't think that's the underlying reason that there are less women here in the first place, I think it's likely to be a consequence of there being less women here in the first place.


As above.

The bolded (or similar sentiments) would be immediately bannable here if said with any degree of sincerity.
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Call them some of the contributing factors. I don't think it's as easy as one answer. We've had several factors brought up throughout the discussion. Why do you want to fixate on a handful of posts?
 
Messofanego said:
"Shemale porn is one of the most popular kinds of erotica for heterosexual men"

Ok, I gotta watch this to see how that is explained. Thanks for this, I'm learning neuroscience at the moment so this should be fun.
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it's more psychology then it is neuroscience, but it is really cool.
 
hey_monkey said:
Call them some of the contributing factors. I don't think it's as easy as one answer.
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It's not that easy, no. I do think the single largest answer is staring us in the face though.

As I said earlier, I don't need stats on Jalopnik to know that their readership is predominantly male. Not exclusively, but predominantly.

We've had several factors brought up throughout the discussion. Why do you want to fixate on a handful of posts?
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Because quoting and replying to every post would take so long if probably drop dead before I hit reply!
 
Fiction said:
I think everyone is susceptible to insecurity; I am not overweight by any means, but since I am not incredibly underweight like I used to be, I feel fat as hell. And yeah, a lot of it has to do with how women in media look.

I wish guys would stop comparing themselves to porn too. There's a reason those guys are in porn, and I've NEVER seen dicks that big in the wild. I think I'd run screaming if I had. Owwwww.

Conversely, I have also felt 'weird' after watching porn, due to how the ladies look, but I realize that bleach is a thing and move on.
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Its funny because I feel like it hits both sides. You mentioned how you felt weird after watching porn. I'm not against porn by all means but I do think its having an unhealthy attitude towards how we view sex and what is "normal" in society.

My wife was and still is very naive when it comes to sex. Thats what happens when your parents are sunday school teachers and grow up hardcore Catholic in the Philippines :p Slowly but surely she's getting out of her shell and realizing she can be sexy as herself and for ourselves. But prior to her actually having sex her only "experience" was seeing porn that she was curious about on the internet, of course her expecations were completely warped because of it. I've had preivous girlfriends who ran into the same thing, first coming into contact with sex via porn.

I don't think it causes permanent damage or even damage at all of course, hell my first "sexual" experience and awakenings was the goddamn tree scene in the Last Unicorn and to this day I have an unhealthy fear of large breasts :p

But yeah people will watch porn and their expecations are completly warped by what is expected. This creates insecurity and the cosmetic industry profits greatly from it. I just wish one day after encouragement from me and friends that she doesn't have to worry so much about her looks. She's fucking gorgeous. Which regardless, she's my wife, I'll still love her even if she's underweight, or even when we get older and she jabba the hutts up. I'm seeing improvement every day in her own self image but of course I don't think that will ever go away completely. I suppose some of it can be healthy? I mean from an evolutional standpoint isn't it just all biology anyway? Survival of the fittest? Hell its why we have breasts and nipples and clavicles and all those sexy things that are on people. It's stimulus response :p

Actually come to think of it, it brings up another discussion. So if men are for the lack of better term "pigs" for hnnnnng and "bewbs" talk, is it again just exploiting the nature of men when marketing is telling women they HAVE to look like that?

I guess we should kill all the marketing experts. Bill HIcks was right :p

Or really its up to us, men and women, to look beyond that and realize we're more than our base nature.
 
SmokyDave said:
It's not that easy, no. I do think the single largest answer is staring us in the face though.
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Well, yeah. But we can grant that; no need to discuss it. What's left after? That's what interests me.

I'm also curious how many people post here who don't use the gaming side. Was everyone brought by that? I was, but rarely go there any longer.
 
SmokyDave said:
Half of all gamers does not necessarily mean half of all gaming enthusiasts.
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True. But we shouldn't assume there is anything inherently wrong with this. Women might just not be as inclined to be enthusiasts of gaming as much as men are. Same way as men are less likely to be heavy readers.
 
hey_monkey said:
Well, yeah. But we can grant that; no need to discuss it. What's left after? That's what interests me.

I'm also curious how many people post here who don't use the gaming side. Was everyone brought by that? I was, but rarely go there any longer.
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I'd heard about this place, Marrec told me it was great, I lurked gaming side for awhile before discovering OT, and OT was why I finally decided to make an account. Gaming side scares me a bit, so I continue to just lurk in the threads that interest me.
 
There is nothing inherently male about gaming.

I remember reading about how young boys and girls wore dresses of various colours (white, blue, pink, etc) in the late 1800's until at some point where there was an attempt to make boys wear more "masculine". This included people saying pink was for boys because it was related to red which can stand for fiery male pride or something like that while blue was for girls because the Virgin Mary was depicted in blue a lot.

Compare that to today where some consider boys in dresses to be signs of "deviant" behaviour and boys wearing pink to frequently be suspected of being homosexual.

It's more that some people consider certain activities to be male or female because they project on to them. Not that there's any inherent quality to them that makes them male or female.

I personally don't consider any activity to be male or female as I think that's a very disingenuous way of looking at things. However I know that some people do look at certain activities that way which is why I thought the stuff about dresses and colours was interesting because it shows how such views aren't really built on anything concrete.
 
To be fair, we do have a large quantity of women, its just that I don't care whether the poster is a man or a woman. Its about the user name and internet anonymity.
 
Interesting discussion. I don't have a lot to add, but I'm enjoying many of the responses.

hey_monkey said:
I'm also curious how many people post here who don't use the gaming side. Was everyone brought by that? I was, but rarely go there any longer.
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95% of my posts are in OT. I only care a lot about very few games, and I signed up because of them.
 
hey_monkey said:
I'm also curious how many people post here who don't use the gaming side. Was everyone brought by that? I was, but rarely go there any longer.
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A lot of people do. Gaming is a gateway to the OT as far as I'm concerned.
 
hey_monkey said:
I'm also curious how many people post here who don't use the gaming side. Was everyone brought by that? I was, but rarely go there any longer.
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I try to post as much in the gaming side as I find relevant to me. Especially in discussions that concern women in gaming. I feel it's important to have at least one female voice in the discussion.
 
I don't think you can really say this, unless we polled every Member. Proportionately, maybe the people you see are male, but that doesn't mean it's predominately male.
 
Miss Riot said:
I would pay money for a PM that good =( you've never been female on OK Cupid. hundreds upon hundreds of;

"hey"
"whats up"
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If a PM has the subject line of "hey" and it's not from someone I already know, I can very confidently bet that the contents will include some attempt at hitting on me.
 
do it

then fwd the creepy pms to me so I can respond to them as you. It be a glorious cycle.

man, if I ever got creepy pms, I'd just troll them.

Time to learn how to tumblr.

freenudemacusers said:
did you receive my crown of sonnets, and if so, what did you think?

edit: sorry, I meant to quote falling edge. :-*
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bro, you stopped sending those to me, i am hurt ;_;
 
I'm just catching up the thread, so forgive me for digging up old conversations:

About the "would" "I'd hit it" "sharp knees" -phenomenon. I get that in real life, not people coming to me saying I'd fuck you, not commenting about someone's appearance between friends, but strangers coming to me and saying some woman is fuckable.

It always happens when I'm at work. I have a small office in politics, although I'm not a politician but an administrator some people view me as someone with power (which is very limited in reality). Due to my work I see lots of people in meetings, on tours, public events and such. And there are those men who see me as someone whose approval they need to get and "I'd fuck her" sometimes comes out of their mouths. 'Her' usually being some female politician, usually someone I know personally.

These men are usually very socially awkward and they think that's how men communicate. So they try to project that image of being all manly men who are driven by their heterosexual sex drive towards only the choicest of whores who they'd dominate with their manliness. And by projecting that image they wish I include them to my 'man club of men', which is apparent because there are repeat offenders. It's rather jarring.

Which brings me back to the topic: as said more recently people think this is a man club and act accordingly thinking that that's how the man club works. And that's why I think can be so alienating.
 
icarus-daedelus said:
You could look back in the thread for actual women giving you actual reasons why they're hesitant to post here, and even then we're all a self-selected group of women who are willing to post in potentially hostile threads like this (or any thread on the subject of women, feminism, etc. esp as relates to gaming.) I'm pretty damn sure that the scope of potential women willing to participate in GAF is limited by the culture here. Remember, too, that "better than reddit/4chan" is a low bar.

For example, I could tell you that infrequent and peripheral threads aren't actually all that infrequent nor peripheral (provided we widen our scope beyond the subject of 'dick size') and that the common appearance of such threads fosters an intimidating culture that bothers a lot of us, but you, as with many in the thread, seem unwilling to consider the perspectives offered by women as valid. No, it absolutely must be exclusively down to the supposition that men gamers vastly outnumber women gamers, no matter how much we have to overstate the vastness of that gap.
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Very good post, icarus.

Edit: And yours, jasup.
 
Dax01 said:
Probably. Oh well. Better to be slightly skinny than slightly overweight. I don't have to worry about what I eat!
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Wait until you get older! I used to be a skinny lad that can eat anything I wanted. My metabolism isn't what it used to be. :<

Miss Riot said:
I would pay money for a PM that good =( you've never been female on OK Cupid. hundreds upon hundreds of;

"hey"
"whats up"
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If I had ever sent "Hey, is yo name Google, because ur all I've been searchin 4!", then I apologize. D:
 
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