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Why not let the Southern US be its own country?
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theusedversion
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WTH? Some of you like to shit on the South.
Eh, democracy is mostly an illusion anyway.
CrazyDogg77
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I highly doubt even a sizable portion of the South wants to secede
Your gut is wrong. The majority of southerners do not want to secede.
There is no "either country." It's one country.
gutter_trash
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just like Quebec, there is also a demographic shift of children of 1st gen immigrants making 2nd gen children then 3rd gen grand-children which over-time makes separation (or secession in the US) more and more impossible
in 1995, 90% of the so-called ''ethnic'' vote voted No in Quebec. Now today in 2015, the number of ''ethnic minorities'' have exponentially grown. Rendering Quebec separation impossible
link1201
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Apparently. lol
The South is the most 'Merica part of this country. No way in hell do they want to secede. Some ideals may differ, but this is the new South. You'd be surprised how forward thinking some districts are.
gutter_trash
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the North won the Civil War making the North the ''real'' Merica
This. I really used to think most people were joking when they give this weird idea of reality that they have of the south. But apparently not and we still live in slave times down here.
I have no idea what this means.
Lionel Mandrake
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Y'all are some prejudiced motherfuckers.
Tallshortman
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Only the crazies want secession, the only time it comes up is when an occasional politicians rant against the "liberal agenda" in a hunting manner. Some if you acting like there's a real seperatist faction or something.
Wow op, your ignorance is astounding. The North and South are not as far apart politically as you seem to think, there are huge populations in the South (mostly in large urban areas) that are very liberal, and if you actually look at electoral maps (which have been posted here already I see) you can see politics shifting all the time. Get out of your little bubble and throw away these childish notions, it's insulting and shows your naivety. Also people throwing stupid barbs like 'lol who wants another 3rd world country' are equally as moronic.
I'm fairly liberal in my views and I think this premise is not only insane, it's ignorant.
speculawyer
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Maps like that are hugely deceiving. Land does not vote. People vote. The area of land does not matter. The number of people do matter.
boiled goose
good with gravy
Your gut is very wrong.you are imagining a caricature ofSoutherners not a real people.
Maintenance
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Talking as somebody who is not well versed in the subject, has this actually worked before? I know they tried to do this in my country and it ended badly.
Canada will feed you.
What the fuck?
The hard-on that GAF has for hating conservative states is amazing.
Do you REALLY think these states would all of a sudden just turn into a theocracy all of a sudden simply by removing the federal government from the equation?
I'm offended op is lumping Texas with the south. I hate when people try and lump us in with the south or southwest. Texas is just Texas. As far as the premise of joining the csa? Fuck no. I'd rather the state just be independent. Then we can sell oil/gas to both the northern and southern states at a higher price. Hell might even make our cattle industry a little more valuable and we already supply 20% of the nation's beef.
Cybrwzrd
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Prejudice is Tolerance.
Hate is Love.
War is Peace.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
teruterubozu
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To be fair, the thread backfired. OP looks alone here.
Alligatorjandro
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No more visitors to Florida. Especially gaffers.
OP's thought process while making this thread: This is brilliant, GAF will love me!
In addition to many other reasons, it's because different regions of the US are mutually beneficial to each other.
For example, the South benefits from federal spending on welfare programs that are paid for by the richer regions. While the other regions benefit from lower labor costs in the South in the form of lower prices on end products.
Other 'red state' regions like the South and Midwest are also the major energy and food producers in the country, which is obviously beneficial to everyone.
Also, philosophically, just because I don't agree with someone on every point doesn't mean I want to disassociate with them entirely. On the contrary, I'd rather have national discussions with varying opinions so that we might better arrive at the truth in the end; I don't want to live in an echo chamber.
For example, the South benefits from federal spending on welfare programs that are paid for by the richer regions. While the other regions benefit from lower labor costs in the South in the form of lower prices on end products.
Other 'red state' regions like the South and Midwest are also the major energy and food producers in the country, which is obviously beneficial to everyone.
Also, philosophically, just because I don't agree with someone on every point doesn't mean I want to disassociate with them entirely. On the contrary, I'd rather have national discussions with varying opinions so that we might better arrive at the truth in the end; I don't want to live in an echo chamber.
HOMEBOY OVER HERE
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throw in north and south carolina
I live in north carolina and as far as I'm concerned this place sucks and is fighting as much change as possible
Karsticles
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How does spreading one government into two ever improve a situation?
smokeandmirrors
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And why is the south the most american part of the country? America was built in the industrial centers of major cities. NYC is a monument to the American spirit and work ethic.
Also the North won so.
I was just thinking this.
Squirrel Killer
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On succession, sure. Plenty of people generalizing the South based on caricatures though.
Jag
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It is the differences that make this country strong and great. Just like immigration is what helped make us a world power.
I would argue that those who would prefer to see it separate are the weak links.
I don't think he was being literal. No one here is trying to take anything away from New York City...
Good lord.
Sometimes I think those of you who have only lived in northern states need to take a trip to Tennessee or somewhere, have yourself a nice meal, meet with some nice folks, and relieve yourself of these misconceptions regarding southern culture and attitudes.
Any person who grows up in either a rural or disadvantaged part of the country is subject to being around people who hold ignorant, less progressive opinions.
What you do with those people is not to wipe them off the map. Instead, you ask yourself what their understanding of social issues says about how much further we have to go as a nation. You ask yourself why otherwise decent people could disagree with you so strongly. What experiences have led them to their opinions?
Every culture (not just the US) has experienced some form of a debate over social issues. If you actually regard your southern neighbors as people rather than talking points, you might discover their views are not so different than yours.
Also, fear of change is a human condition that affects us all.
Any person who grows up in either a rural or disadvantaged part of the country is subject to being around people who hold ignorant, less progressive opinions.
What you do with those people is not to wipe them off the map. Instead, you ask yourself what their understanding of social issues says about how much further we have to go as a nation. You ask yourself why otherwise decent people could disagree with you so strongly. What experiences have led them to their opinions?
Every culture (not just the US) has experienced some form of a debate over social issues. If you actually regard your southern neighbors as people rather than talking points, you might discover their views are not so different than yours.
Also, fear of change is a human condition that affects us all.
timetokill
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No way man, it's way easier to view them as stereotypes and caricatures. Truly this will make it easier for us to unite as a country.
That is beautiful.
Come back and read it again in a year.
lets be real - even without atlanta and six flags AND athens, Ga is still better than Alabama. Just not at football.
I live in Columbus, so a lot of the people I work with and meet in town are actually residents of Alabama. I'm sure the same is true of many other Georgians.
Exactly. Gay people are getting married in Alabama.
Imagine uttering that sentence 10 years ago.
You could say that for most of the country. Lots of minds have changed in a decade and it's not slowing down.
Only if they were willing to leave America and move to some uninhabited scrub land and start fro scratch working for their own to build their own, without slavery or forced labor.
We'll allow them to take the clothes on their backs, the shoes on their feet, and some farming and building tools.
Now go get fucked.err I mean Go rise again.
God help me and all of us if I ever get a time machine. I will go back and fuck the south. Oh how I will fuck the south. And they had it coming, and mostly still do.
We'll allow them to take the clothes on their backs, the shoes on their feet, and some farming and building tools.
Now go get fucked.err I mean Go rise again.
God help me and all of us if I ever get a time machine. I will go back and fuck the south. Oh how I will fuck the south. And they had it coming, and mostly still do.
smokeandmirrors
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#TheNorthRulesTheSouthDrools
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