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why the hell are so many people bothered with console noise?
- Thread starter PseudoKirby
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Segata Sanshiro said:
:lol
Seriously, I live in a small house. My living room is maybe 10 feet away from my daughter's room down the hall. I could not play any games at night without headphones because I would have to turn the TV volume so high just to hear dialog. My wife can hear the 360 running from our bedroom even further down the hall.
I now game with headphones 99% of the time, but after getting into the NXE preview, I think I'll be able to shed the headphones for games like Left 4 Dead which really require the use of a headset (I don't have headphones that are compatible with Live).
Some people's 360s are obviously not as loud as others. And you modders out there are probably running your drive at half speed or something which makes a HUGE difference.
ShockingAlberto
Member
I found the beep when turning the VMU on annoying.Segata Sanshiro said:
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Big time. CR2032s... god. Could they have picked a battery with a shorter lifespan?ShockingAlberto said:
My PS3 gets annoyingly loud if my room is hot enough (above 22-23C or so). It's a 60GB of course, which do run much hotter than the current revisions. As a previous poster said, the fans used in these system are too small, requiring them to spin too fast to push enough air. I'm always baffled when hardware manufacturers use such small fans, when there's clearly enough room for bigger ones.
edit: I should say it's not overly abnormal though. It makes about the same noise (slightly more) than my 2-year-after-launch PS2 (the model without the revised cooling).
edit: I should say it's not overly abnormal though. It makes about the same noise (slightly more) than my 2-year-after-launch PS2 (the model without the revised cooling).
Lord Error
Insane For Sony
Actually, 60GB PS3 uses a very large fan. It's just that 60GB model uses around 200W, and gets hot because of that - a lot more than the new ones, that use half that much power.TheExodu5 said:
The fan noise was the reason I traded in 60GB for a newest 80GB, and I don't regret it for a second. New 80GB is nearly dead silent even when I leave it for hours on Folding.
For movie watching especially, silent player is a must, but there's a lot of games as well, that have silent sections where they are conveying the certain atmosphere that you don't want to have destroyed by a fan or disc whirring.
manueldelalas
Time Traveler
My 20 years old NES is super quiet, has no loading, no stupid dashboard, no intro movies nor publisher and developer screen presentation, has a much better D-Pad than the X360, more and better games than any console this generation.
Take that current gen consoles!
Take that current gen consoles!
Kill Your Masters
Member
My launch PS2 is as loud as my 360 when the 360 is in idle mode. Though not everyone has the same 360. Older ones have louder fans. There are also brushless fans out there that whiiiiiine constantly...Dr_Cogent said:
viewtiful_dru
Member
Kyoufu said:
This is wrong, because the Dreamcast can do nothing wrong
xxjuicesxx
Member
My main reason is I like to keep playing at night when people in the apartment/house/wherever I am are sleeping and need their rest for the next day. So I don't want to turn it up high enough.
The second reason is a fan distorts the music. You aren't hearing the game you are hearing the game + a fan. In a video metaphor this would be like watching tv with a much smaller tv right next to it. Sure you aren't watching it but its in your peripheral vision flashing images.
The second reason is a fan distorts the music. You aren't hearing the game you are hearing the game + a fan. In a video metaphor this would be like watching tv with a much smaller tv right next to it. Sure you aren't watching it but its in your peripheral vision flashing images.
Rollo Lawson
Banned
2 Minutes Turkish said:
this is what i came in to say. no-one wants their console to be loud because it seems like a sign of wear.
solid2snake
Banned
ghst said:
ok, now that made me laugh :lol
Dirtyshubb
Member
God there may have been some great games on the NES but i will never miss having to blow into the damn carts just to get them to work!TheExodu5 said:
Thank god for Emulators!
UpperCaseN
Member
the 360 disc spinning can be distracting, also just hearing it in the first place makes you believe that there is something wrong, even if there isn't
VictimOfGrief
Banned
PseudoKirby said:
Having now owned both a 360 and now a PS3.... the 360 noise is simply atrocious when it comes to playing games or watching a movie. Last night I was watching a movie on my PS3 and I couldn't even tell the damn thing was on. Seriously though, it is too loud and people bitching about have a right to as it is too loud.
Rocksteady33
Junior Member
I remember back in the day my parents would get furious at how often we'd play the Dreamcast, and that beast made a lot of noise. So my brothers and I would play in our basement and when our parents came down we'd quickly turn off the TV and pretend we were doing something else but that mother fucker made so much noise my Dad would always ask what that loud noise was (the system was hidden from view from him) and we just told him the TV would make weird noises sometimes and that he should look into buying a new one. :lol
AwakenedCloud
Member
Since the noise is consistent it blends in the background pretty well IMO. Your mind is designed to drown out background noise after a short period of time. I prefer it to my Gamecube which sounds like its trying to snap my discs in two.
I for the most part don't care until i'm made painfully aware of the problems when it grinds hard as if it's going to fail. nothing like trying to enjoy a game when you are SURE your shit is going to catch on fire.
Seriously, the sound it makes during Fable II damn near drowns out my TV. What the fuck is going on.
Seriously, the sound it makes during Fable II damn near drowns out my TV. What the fuck is going on.
bimet said:
That would be me.
I don't typically play games like Gears of War 2 or Left 4 Dead in front of my 4-year old so I play after she goes to bed. The noise from my launch 360 was insufferable because I would have to turn the volume up to a pretty big level just to be able to hear. The last time my unit was repaired, they put on Opus motherboard in it and it runs a lot quieter now, but there was a time when I was going to abandon the 360 and game on my PS3 just because of the noise difference.
PseudoKirby said:
I don't live in my mom's basement, I play at night when a wife and three kids are sleeping. I either put my headphones on or turn the sound down. The 360 is the loudest electronic device ever, even with the installs the two 80mm fans make a irritating waa-waa-waa sound. My new PS3 is whisper quiet like a console should be.
krypt0nian
Banned
Not sure. Maybe since I sit like 12+ feet away from mine, I just don't hear them.
Even the 360. Which BTW I never thought was all that loud to begin with.
Even the 360. Which BTW I never thought was all that loud to begin with.
TheListener
Member
Console noise is an important factor to game audio.
Think of the ambient noise in your gaming evnironment and how it contributes to signal-to-noise. Signal to noise is the ratio of things you should hear to things you shouldn't.
For games with a narrow dynamic range (the difference between loud sounds and quiet sounds) it's not as important, as you can adjust the listening level of the loudest sounds to overpower console noise and since the quieter sounds are right behind, they too are louder. With a wide dynamic range game, it's possible to adjust the listening volume to the desired level, but not hear some of the quiter sounds.
For a great example of this, see the character movement sounds in COD4. They are in audible at normal listening levels in a room when you're near the 360. I applaud the devs for this, by the way. The movement sounds *should* be quieter than the guns. COD4 is a very well mixed game.
Some games get around this by giving user options to reduce dynamic range. Check audio options in the menus for games that support this feature. It may be guised as "speaker settings".
I do the majority of my gaming on X360, so I use dolby headphone + closed ear phones for isolation. It also helps not wake up the kids. :lol However, with each hardware refresh, the 360 has been getting incrementally quieter for normal usage.
Think of the ambient noise in your gaming evnironment and how it contributes to signal-to-noise. Signal to noise is the ratio of things you should hear to things you shouldn't.
For games with a narrow dynamic range (the difference between loud sounds and quiet sounds) it's not as important, as you can adjust the listening level of the loudest sounds to overpower console noise and since the quieter sounds are right behind, they too are louder. With a wide dynamic range game, it's possible to adjust the listening volume to the desired level, but not hear some of the quiter sounds.
For a great example of this, see the character movement sounds in COD4. They are in audible at normal listening levels in a room when you're near the 360. I applaud the devs for this, by the way. The movement sounds *should* be quieter than the guns. COD4 is a very well mixed game.
Some games get around this by giving user options to reduce dynamic range. Check audio options in the menus for games that support this feature. It may be guised as "speaker settings".
I do the majority of my gaming on X360, so I use dolby headphone + closed ear phones for isolation. It also helps not wake up the kids. :lol However, with each hardware refresh, the 360 has been getting incrementally quieter for normal usage.
If only that was the case. Do you turn your TV to the maximum volume or something? That's how loud my two Xbox 360s have been. It was completely and utterly unacceptable. Couldn't enjoy playing at all. It was the drive sound (and no, neither were faulty), so HD install should rectify this, of course.PseudoKirby said:
ShockingAlberto
Member
God, this especially.Durante said:
That was the catalyst for me going to headphones for my 360 gaming. The 360 noise just completely ruined the calm feeling of those stories.
nerdy1one said:
It runs fine for me for most games. For some reason it it becomes really lot for Crackdown and a few others.
The only time I really notice the noise is when watching a ctuscene for it's supposed to be a touching moment or something where you expect it to be quiet.
Nathan Rain
Banned
1) Fanboyism.
2) People who can't play their games too loud so as to not wake their parents.
2) People who can't play their games too loud so as to not wake their parents.
Segata Sanshiro
Member
Did you even read the first page of this thread? Any page for that matter?Nathan Rain said:
Nathan Rain said:
Hey Junior, some people live with other humans. Did you read the thread?
nerdy1one said:
The only thing that will quiet it down is the new install feature and 20GB will allow you 1 maybe 2 installs (4-6GB each). The SKU has little to do with the noise, I had a launch 20GB and replaced it with a Falcon Elite, they were almost the same.
stuminus3 said:
This.
And the PS3 is virtually silent, while the 360 is like a small vacuum on most games. Both of them have the annoying laser seeking noise, but on the PS3 you can actually hear it over the console's fans.
I cant wait for a PSTWO type revision to the PS3. Slim it down, smaller fans and dead silence please.