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Why why why isn't there a Super Mario RPG 2??
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DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Man, SMRPG's Bowser looks like the fat kid that everyone makes fun of in school
Dragona Akehi
Retired
cvxfreak said:
Bowser looks badass for once.
No he looks like a malformed midget. Sorry cvxfreak, it appears that SMRPG is your "bad game" guilty pleasure. It's ok, we all have one.
Mine is ShadowGate64. Yes, I know. You don't have to say anything.
Dragona Akehi
Retired
God that "art" is so hideous...
A Link to the Past
Banned
Amir0x said:
I don't hate SMRPG, I hate people who don't hate SMRPG.
Edit: My guilty pleasure is
Kirby Air Ride
Wait, no, **** you, that's an awesome game, go to Hell.
DeathbyVolcano
Banned
Amir0x said:
Don't be afraid to express your love for one of the best RPG's on the PS2! KHII for life!
Joe Molotov
Member
cvxfreak said:
I'D HIT IT
Nice rack! :lol
(I think...Is that the front?)
JoshuaJSlone
Member
Not totally. SMRPG had two directors. In Mario & Luigi, one of them (Yoshihiko Maekawa) is director and the other is in Special Thanks. For Mario & Luigi 2 the original Mario & Luigi director seems to be gone, but the other (Chihiro Fujioka) is credited with Field Design.Oblivion said:
Maxrpg said:
No, the soundtrack is by the totally awesome Yoko Shimomura. Kondo is just the original source of the Mario tunes that were then remixed and Uematsu was the source for the Culex battle music since it's just boss battle music from FF4.
SMRPG is the Mystic Quest of Mario RPGs. Short and simple with an awesome soundtrack. It lacks all the charm and depth of the rest of the games in the series. Seeing as how it came first, it was nice at the time and served as a decent "beginner" RPG, but both Intelligent Systems and Alphadream have done a much better job withe concept. If Square were to be involved in a Mario RPG again, I would prefer to see something in the vein of Kingdom Hearts.
Swordian said:
Outside of Superstar Saga who was developed by Alpha Dream with lots of Square alumnis, I actually prefer SMPRG to the Paper Mario RPG games. The 1st one was a nice aesthetic break from the pre-rendered stuff, but the GameCube version I didn't like so much. As an RPG, its just not the same without Square at the helm. I really hope Square works on the next one.
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
Love Mario RPG but there really isn't a need for a sequel...everything was pretty much closed book and set everything back to normal on the mario universe. A Link To The Past, we get it you don't like the game shut the **** up instead of trying to go 'Omg YouR loGiC sucks"...I read through 4 pages of that crap now.
I liked the style. I liked the music. It gave the Mario characters some actually depth which was great.
I liked the style. I liked the music. It gave the Mario characters some actually depth which was great.
I'm ashamed to admit it, but SMRPG is one of my guilty pleasures. I know it's short, I know the game's mechanics are dated, I know Paper Mario's translation, artstyle and writing are all superior. I just don't care. It's still the funnest Mario RPG I have played. (And I love Mario and Luigi 1 and the two Paper Marios)
A Link to the Past
Banned
Biohazard said:
I merely mocked the person who made a baseless assumption that I do not like SMRPG, and since you seem to have read all four pages with the exception of that post...
You ****in' dumb man!
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
A Link to the Past said:
:lol shut up.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Biohazard said:
Ouf! That knocked the wind out of me, that it did.
I've thought SMRPG was overrated since 1997, so... man, is it ever good to see a thread where people actually agree.
...Though it was still better than PM1, M&L, M&L2, and maybe PM2. SMRPG did everything good but nothing great, while the others did one thing great (except for PM1, which did nothing great), some things good, but one thing utterly wrong. (PM1: walking speed. M&L: too much like a dungeon crawler. M&L2: inflated enemy HP. PM2: hyper-linearity.)
...Though it was still better than PM1, M&L, M&L2, and maybe PM2. SMRPG did everything good but nothing great, while the others did one thing great (except for PM1, which did nothing great), some things good, but one thing utterly wrong. (PM1: walking speed. M&L: too much like a dungeon crawler. M&L2: inflated enemy HP. PM2: hyper-linearity.)
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
Jiggy37 said:
True that...I just couldn't get into paper mario or the gba ones as well where as Super Mario RPG just grabbed my attention. Good game? yes. The Best? no way. It's a very solid title that is in no need of a sequel.
A Link to the Past
Banned
Jiggy37 said:
PM2 is one of the least linear of the five.Mario RPG is a dumbed down SNES-era Square game with Mario characters hammered into it. It's a good game, and it has some great bits.
The Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi games, however, feel more like Mario games, and they look an assload better to boot.
When I compare Squeenix and IS's recent track records, IS wins by more than a mile. They make the next Mario RPG. Squeenix can keep shooting for their current target of "competent."
The Paper Mario and Mario and Luigi games, however, feel more like Mario games, and they look an assload better to boot.
When I compare Squeenix and IS's recent track records, IS wins by more than a mile. They make the next Mario RPG. Squeenix can keep shooting for their current target of "competent."
John Harker
Definitely doesn't make things up as he goes along.
I agree with the original poster.
Square and Nintendo: Let's DO This.
Super Mushroom Kingdom Hearts
Square and Nintendo: Let's DO This.
Super Mushroom Kingdom Hearts
Deku, posting that video brought back a lot of memories. I want to play the game now, but my SNES is at my new house.
Still, seeing those videos reassured to me why SMRPG is better than its 4 sequels. It's a traditional RPG with a Mario flavor, maintaining a level of seriousness without taking itself too seriously. I'm wondering if I should, at this point, be insulted by the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series.
Still, seeing those videos reassured to me why SMRPG is better than its 4 sequels. It's a traditional RPG with a Mario flavor, maintaining a level of seriousness without taking itself too seriously. I'm wondering if I should, at this point, be insulted by the Paper Mario and Mario & Luigi series.
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen
Banned
I thought the story/events/characters, level design, graphics and music in SMRPG were all pretty creative and entertaining, but the dumbed-down generic RPG battles were tedious. However I don't get the complaints about not being in the Mario universe, etc. at all. Maybe it's because I was a Square fan, and Square's sequels and spinoffs to their own franchises usually make a point of either being set in a different world altogether, or having a different theme and feel from their predecessors. This was always one of the things I liked about their stuff, and so I always thought Mario RPG was as closely tied to the Mario universe as anyone could possibly want, but apparently some Nintendo fans have a much stricter conception of the bounds of a franchise. This strikes me as overly limiting, but that's just me.
Christopher
BDE (Big Dad Energy)
Bizarro Sun Yat-sen said:
Dude don't even bother man...all there is in this thread is generic hate.
davepoobond
you can't put a price on sparks
oh wow, so much hate.
i love SMRPG. If Square made one for the DS that didn't suck, i might have to bend over and get the DS (along with FFIII =p)
i love SMRPG. If Square made one for the DS that didn't suck, i might have to bend over and get the DS (along with FFIII =p)
AndoCalrissian
Member
Man, there are so many games that I forget that I need to get for the Virtual Console. Add this one to the list, great game!
I don't feel like bumping an old thread about PM so... I'll use this, sorry for the off-topic, I just want to express my pain:
I was playing Paper Mario 2 and I said: "Lets see what this Pit of 100 Trials is about..."
2 hours later, I get killed in level 64 :_( ... ****!
BTW... for the 8th chapter... what is the recommended level?
I was playing Paper Mario 2 and I said: "Lets see what this Pit of 100 Trials is about..."
2 hours later, I get killed in level 64 :_( ... ****!
BTW... for the 8th chapter... what is the recommended level?
Do The Mario
Unconfirmed Member
Archie said:
QFT
Paper Mario TTYD was my favorite GC game last gen
- Charming Graphics
- Great Script
- Superb gameplay
worldrunover
Member
While SM RPG probably feels more "traditional RPG"-like, I'd take Paper Mario series any day, for the reasons posted above. The characters just have so much personality, and the script is very well written, despite it's consistent "PRINCESS WAS STOLEN OH TEH NOS" plot. I likened the first PM (on N64) to Yoshi's Island, mainly for its unique yet alluring graphical style and coming out too late in the system's life, depite being awesome.
But I will give Square credit for one thing in SMRPG: Mallow. That guy rocked.
But I will give Square credit for one thing in SMRPG: Mallow. That guy rocked.
Didn't know about this thread.
Anyways, SMRPG had every single component that makes a traditional RPG than had platform elements added on to it.
The other 4 games were platform games with a bunch of rpg elements added on to it.
It's having all those elements together in a single game that makes it better than the other games.
Anyways, SMRPG had every single component that makes a traditional RPG than had platform elements added on to it.
The other 4 games were platform games with a bunch of rpg elements added on to it.
It's having all those elements together in a single game that makes it better than the other games.
Tabris said:
It doesn't make it a better game, it just makes it feel more like a traditional RPG than the others. There are still massive amounts of flaws in SMRPG that make it quite easily one of the worst RPGs ever made. Honestly the only reason people love it is likely due to the Mario references or the Square-like feel of the game.
I will state again that Square Enix could make a really cool Mario RPG ala Kingdom Hearts, but I doubt it will happen as they just don't have the resources to make anything other than a lame DS sports game. They'd rather make blockbuster anime games on the PS3.
worldrunover
Member
Tabris said:
That's a good way to put it, and I think that it's probably true. But you may think it's better, me being a platorming fan and not into trad RPGs, I prefer having the platformer with RPG elements added than the other way around.
Tabris said:
No, they weren't.
Mario & Luigi and Paper Mario had every single component of being an RPG that SMRPG had. They are not ****ing platformer games. They were both traditional turn-based RPGs with infrequent and minor platforming segments. The M&L games had hardly any platforming at all, and the only real PM platforming was for Bowser.
To respond to your points from the other thread:
- Three of the four later games had two member battle parties, which is no less RPG-ish than three member battle parties. The fourth game had four member battle parties so I guess it's more of an RPG than SMRPG.
- All four later games had experience and leveling up.
- They had equipment (badges & pants), which is more than one can say about that notorious non-RPG FFVIII, and an equal amount of equipment as FFVII
- Paper Mario & Paper Mario 2 had waaaay more than just 2 playable characters, and they all had a story. Both M&L games had plenty of story, it just wasn't based around the two title characters.
- All four later games had towns and villages. Since when is having a world map required for an RPG? The Breath of Fire series, FFX, and the Shadow Hearts series would like to know!
- M&L went outside the Mario World to create Beanbean Kingdom which had Fawful, Cackletta, Peasley, and a slew of other unique characters. M&L created unique characters within the Mario World. The Paper Mario games... did you even play these? They had more unique characters than SMRPG.
This is just a ****ing stupid thing to claim.