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Wii 2 (Project Cafe): Officially Announced, Playable At E3, Launching 2012 [Updated]
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No joke, actually. I really am curious how sound will be represented on the controller, if the idea of the screen on the controller is in fact gaming away from the TV/with the TV off, as the French article suggests.Smision said:
That being said, while my curiosity is sincere, I probably could have picked a less cartoony way to ask it.
*glances around*
SPEAKERS.
PantherLotus
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DECK'ARD said:
You said the same thing last time, and the slightly misplaced concern still remains.
Either you believe Nintendo is "so incredibly fussy" about controls and they figured out a way to realize their needs with this new controller, or you they're not that fussy, or you believe they don't know what they're doing, or you believe they're making a massive misstep.
I'm guessing they have a perfectly fine SNES/PS2/GC/WiiClassic controller with a tablet slapped in the middle, and the controls will be fucking fine, like always. Of course, I tend to believe the simplest explanation is usually the best.
SolarPowered
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The rumors surrounding the controller are promising to me. I'd love the idea of streaming content and it'll give me a chance to get away from the TV for a while. They'll also pack a new and improved Wiimote since they'll need something to use as a standard controller and motion gaming is here to stay. This is especially important since it strengthens the position of the Wiimote as the possible base control scheme for the FPS titles of the next generations(If we get enough exclusives and they sell while the Stream has the field all to itself for a year or two).
Seamless switching between controller and TV for Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and Super smash brothers sounds absolutely awesome. If the rumors of a system more powerful than the PS3 are true I hope the ram and CPU are up to par with the GPU inside of this machine.
They also have one chance to get the online aspect correct. They better not fuck that up because it's the defining feature...
Seamless switching between controller and TV for Mario Kart, Animal Crossing and Super smash brothers sounds absolutely awesome. If the rumors of a system more powerful than the PS3 are true I hope the ram and CPU are up to par with the GPU inside of this machine.
They also have one chance to get the online aspect correct. They better not fuck that up because it's the defining feature...
Seraphinianus
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What does cafe mean?
A cafe is place where social people hang out together with their laptops and drink overpriced coffee, while being quiet, but waiting expectantly for someone to compliment their macbook. Maybe the controller is detachable and everyone can stream from it remotely, playing off their own console, while the controller drips Starbucks Via into their cups.
A cafe is place where social people hang out together with their laptops and drink overpriced coffee, while being quiet, but waiting expectantly for someone to compliment their macbook. Maybe the controller is detachable and everyone can stream from it remotely, playing off their own console, while the controller drips Starbucks Via into their cups.
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How do you guys think this thing will handle Backwards compatibility? Will nintendo just throw the ol broadway and hollywood cpu and gpu in there and have those handle the streaming and processing for the controllers when playing Wii 2 games?
Neiteio said:
There's a multitude of problems/downsides to the screen/streaming things.
But we have to assume if this is true that Nintendo being Nintendo have overcome them. It's going to be a very interesting 48 hours assuming we get concrete info from the Investor's Meeting.
has anybody seen these yet?
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9259/wii2q.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1408/wii2b.jpg
Probably fake, and it looks like a hard drive. And its based off the design from those "leaked" presentation slides. But at least the lighting on the console looks nice.
http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/9259/wii2q.jpg
http://img812.imageshack.us/img812/1408/wii2b.jpg
Probably fake, and it looks like a hard drive. And its based off the design from those "leaked" presentation slides. But at least the lighting on the console looks nice.
CurseoftheGods
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AstroLad said:
Agreed. That's the way of the future for console controllers.
lolez2matt
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What is the 3ds upper screen resolution???
Pimpbaa
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lwilliams3 said:
Most likely it will only be rendering 1 screen at a time where the action is happening. If you are using the TV, multiple people can play as just the interface, virtual buttons, map, etc... are being rendered on the controller screens (like the DS and 3DS). Away from the tv, it would be just streaming video to a single player. That's my guess anyway.
ClovingWestbrook
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Wow I love it!!artwalknoon said:
Seraphinianus
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I wouldn't knock the streaming idea just yet.
I mean, they did make a glasses-less 3D portable. they also have shit fuck tons of money to throw into research.
that said...it sounds like the name for the console should be Nintendo Wat
I mean, they did make a glasses-less 3D portable. they also have shit fuck tons of money to throw into research.
that said...it sounds like the name for the console should be Nintendo Wat
CoffeeJanitor
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Looks like a black gas can. No way that's it, I am not getting the Apple vibe from it.artwalknoon said:
PantherLotus
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1. Why wouldn't if have a headphone jack, guys?
2. So someone saw that mockup IGN posted and rendered it? Nice job making it look real. I love the could-be-a-speakerbox texture they used. Reflection is a nice touch.
artwalknoon said:
2. So someone saw that mockup IGN posted and rendered it? Nice job making it look real. I love the could-be-a-speakerbox texture they used. Reflection is a nice touch.
Seraphinianus
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artwalknoon said:
umm...a return to gamecube discs? lol
either that or its HUUUUUUGE
Nirolak said:
Yeah I'm sure its fake but its a nice mock up based on those other fake images. Also the OP says the ability to stream different media with the console acting as a terminal. Does that mean one person could be playing a game on their screen while another could be watching a movie on their own? Is this a feature that has been rumored?
EmCeeGramr
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That looks really fake. At least I hope it is. It looks ugly, like a modem or a generic TV box.artwalknoon said:
PantherLotus said:
Yes Nintendo is Nintendo, but this would be a *very* un-Nintendo area to jump into, as there's not an agreed standard and it isn't a mature technology. And lag of any sort would kill games dead to the level Nintendo want.
It's not to say it's impossible, and you have to assume Nintendo wouldn't adopt anything less than good enough. But with the nature of what we are talking about it is a concern. Even with stereoscopic displays for example they waited until the technology had been matured enough to a decent enough degree. But still not perfect.
Controls for Nintendo though really have to be perfect. Anyway, definitely going to be an interesting time on GAF the next couple of days.
Freezie KO
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PantherLotus said:
Because if there is a Cafe-mote and it's not the standard controller, it will be extremely easy to not support for third-party ports. Also, very little will be built from the ground up for it. It'll likely get the support of Move or Kinect, which isn't that much when not directly supported by the first-party.
Worse would be support of the Wiimote, at which point you couldn't even guarantee each Cafe owner had one. Basically, we barely scratched the surface of the potential for pointer controls. I'd hate to see it go away so soon.
snesfreak said:Nintendo is doomed!
New system, same bullshit.
I'll be there day one (or whatever day UPS delivers it.)
It's Nintendo, it WILL be awesome.
UPS always delivers super late at night for me, really defeats the purpose of launch day shipping when it arrives at like 8pm.
wonderfuldays
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Ryoma-Echizen said:update
I like ATI one. so...
Gamer @ Heart
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artwalknoon said:
Is that suppose to be teh drive on the bottom?
I will miss that light up slot drive on the wii. I doubt that will carry over.
I say: fake. The 4-LED thing looks ripped from a wii remote, doesn't make sense as an indicator on a console, and is magically lit despite the fact that the console isn't plugged into anything.
Then again, maybe it's battery powered. So who knows? The tablet controller might be effectively portable as long as you carry the base unit around strapped to your belt.
Then again, maybe it's battery powered. So who knows? The tablet controller might be effectively portable as long as you carry the base unit around strapped to your belt.
CoffeeJanitor
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Considering it is Nintendo I wouldn't be worried. They've probably thought over everything on here that's been said x10000.DECK'ARD said:
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EmCeeGramr said:
Indeed. To plasticy, you know?
Ut looks straight up like a wireless router, which is cool considering its all about streaming info.
I'm sure this point is obvious and was made when the rumour first hit, but it literally just occurred to me that, with the right processing power/configuration, this could allow one person to be playing their single player campaign on the TV screen while their friend/significant other/family member plays from their save file on the controller - simultaneous access of different scenarios from one game (though this might require data to be accessed from a hard drive). No more fights over who gets to play and when.
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CoffeeJanitor said:
No doubt. Things like this are planned for years. Iwata's Nintendo is proactive one. I love this era.
I want the new system to be called the Nintendo Rush Hour, with Jackie Chan emblazoned on one side of the console, and Chris Tucker on the other, and when it boots up you hear "DO YOU-A SPEAK-A ANY ENGLISH?" or "DO YOU-A UNDERSTAND THE WORDS THAT ARE COMIN OUTTA MY MOUTH?" And the main menu is a copy/paste of the spinning Chinese food takeout box from the main menu of the Rush Hour 2 DVD.
or they could call it stream i'd be cool with that too
or they could call it stream i'd be cool with that too
Boss Doggie
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Nirolak said:
Do they always report plenty of announcements during their fiscal meetings?
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Pocks said:DD only..
Sega channel + steam = Stream
Why download games, stream those too!
PantherLotus
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DECK'ARD said:
Wait wait wai...what's not a mature technology? Touch screens? Streaming? You can't be serious.
And again, of all the things one would worry about with Nintendo, why controls, why now? If anything that's their singular brand promise that they've never strayed from.
Freezie KO said:
I think you guys should read what Amir0x writes more often. You can probably forget about the WiiMotes altogether, honestly. The pointer is obviously dead, and touch screens killed it. And forget about Move and Kinect -- if you haven't really seen or absorbed that Nintendo doesn't really base decisions off of their competitors, you're not really paying attention.
And to suggest that any of this is based on 3rd party support? I'd say going back to a traditional control system with a nice fat tablet in between the main buttons is the way to get that back, but seriously, Nintendo still doesn't really care about exclusives or w/e imaginary hard core 3rd party strategies you guys think up around here.
I dunno. I just think a lot of you guys aren't seeing the big picture here, and are assuming this is actually Wii2, and not a brand new Nintendo console. Maybe it'll have motion, but I'd take a decently large bet that the console isn't built around that at all. I could be very wrong.
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