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Wii U Buyer's remorse thread
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Alcoholikaust
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as an owner of both- I say go for AC3, as a SINGLEPLAYER game the content abounds, tons of things to do in the game. Gaiden is great too, but not as content heavy as AC3. IMO
I want to see Nintendo have a very strong presence with original eShop titles next year for both 3ds and WiiU. I hope they have more teams working on stuff on that front. Since they really can't rely on 3rd parties then their internal studios are going to have to carry things again.
That being said, I enjoy the console plenty right now. NSMBU and Nintendo Land are a riot with people around.
That being said, I enjoy the console plenty right now. NSMBU and Nintendo Land are a riot with people around.
It's very similar to diddy kong racing, the class C tracks (slow and easy) seem good enough for casual gamers, and on the options menu there is somethhing to prevent planes from getting lost. I haven't tried it with the family yet so I don't know for sure. The biggest problem I see with it is that it is hard to unlock all characters. Try the demo, I remember it kicked my arse, but I wanted more.
Steve Youngblood
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My wife isn't particularly great at it -- and gets made fun of by several of us for being inexplicably terrible at flying -- but she's had great fun with it. Part of the reason why I haven't dived into any of the other games I picked up is because she is insistent on playing it and trying to get better, as she quite enjoys it despite only really being able to win consistently on the easy setting. But I honestly haven't seen her enjoy a kart racer this much since Double Dash, when she could just be the item thrower.
fart town usa
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If I didn't know what I was getting myself into with buying a WiiU I'd be pretty remorseful.
I went in expecting the worst and came out pleasantly surprised with the Miiverse and extremely surprised/ecstatic with ZombiU.
Back in the day I was completely content with only owning Nintendo consoles. For better or for worse, those days are long gone.
The majority of cheap LCDs I've used have some sort of backlight bleeding so I wouldn't be to concerned.
shouamabane
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I bought the Wii U because 5 of my favorite developers are making exclusive games for it. In the mean time Nintendo Land and Mario U are unique and fun games. Tekken Tag Wii Edition, Sonic Racing and the ability to have all of those games on an external HDD add to the party nature of the system. I have my PC and PS3 for the other games I want to play.
GrotesqueBeauty
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Perhaps you should follow your own advice. I was responding to the singling out of Wii U owners who factor future releases into their decision to purchase, as if it were somehow different or more befuddling than any other launch.
I understand perfectly why some people chose not to be early adopters. I myself have purchased various systems as different points in their lifespan depending on a variety of factors. But there is nothing perplexing or unique about someone buying a Wii U in part specifically because of the lure of games still in development.
That aside, I personally disagree with your outlook on Nintendo's output. While you hail the GC as some sort of last bastion of great Nintendo games, I found the Wii library comparable, if not better in certain regards. It's rather strange to damn Nintendo for dropping the Wii like a hot potato and praise the GC in the same breath. Perhaps you lived in an alternate reality where both systems didn't suffer similar software droughts, particularly in their final year or two? Maybe you found the N64 release schedule jam packed throughout its lifespan as well?
It is also rather convenient to except Galaxy 1&2 from your analysis. Would you analyze the GC library the same way, by disregarding your two favorite games for the system as a mere aberration? Besides, I would put games like DKCR, Sin and Punishment 2, NSMB Wii, Kirby's Return to Dreamland, Punch-Out!!, Excitebots etc. up against similar efforts on GC. As I said, in some ways the Wii even fared better. Certainly as a fan of platformers I believe that.
So perhaps we're just agreeing to disagree, but please read between the lines and don't attempt to take me to task for calling BS on someone else's inability to understand a difference in opinion. I don't begrudge anyone who doesn't currently have interest in Wii U, only the incredulity of some towards people who find the justification to make a purchase based on the pedigree of games slated in the coming months, or the further promise of seeing Nintendo's vast trove of classic IPs brought into the HD era.
I have been a Nintendo fan since I was young, so out of loyalty I will say no, I don't have buyer's remorse. I bought the system, a pro controller, NSMBU, ZombiU and Darksiders II because I didn't play it when it released on the other consoles so I figured why not, I'll give it a try. I played Mario, Nintendo Land and ZombiU for a good 2 weeks uninterrupted (a madden game with friends here and there) and wrote reviews on them. Haven't played Darksiders II yet because I've been in a big achievement mood this month.
I am disappointed with the slow UI but hopeful it'll be improved over time. I also haven't used Miiverse enough to really form an opinion either way on it. The Netflix app is the best IMO of the systems and I plan to continue using the WiiU as my streaming device for the foreseeable future, wish HBO go was available on the system however.
So while some of the stuff is disappointing, I didn't expect perfection out of the gate. I will patiently wait and hope Nintendo releases some quality titles, improves the UI, and works on improving their online infrastructure.
I am disappointed with the slow UI but hopeful it'll be improved over time. I also haven't used Miiverse enough to really form an opinion either way on it. The Netflix app is the best IMO of the systems and I plan to continue using the WiiU as my streaming device for the foreseeable future, wish HBO go was available on the system however.
So while some of the stuff is disappointing, I didn't expect perfection out of the gate. I will patiently wait and hope Nintendo releases some quality titles, improves the UI, and works on improving their online infrastructure.
haha. 100% derail. Maybe rename it to "Have Wii U Buyers Remorse? STFU"
I'm having severe buyers remorse right now. I've tried every tip and trick on the web to get my Wii U to connect to my Wifi and no damn luck. Called Nintendo and they were useless. My router works seamlessly with ALL my other devices like laptops, idevices, xbox, ps3, 3ds, etc. I can't get this damn Wii U to work. Ugh!
Any idea if I try updating the Wii U from someone else Wifi, if the update includes a Wifi fix?
Any idea if I try updating the Wii U from someone else Wifi, if the update includes a Wifi fix?
*I think* I read somewhere the update does fix the WiFi issue. I'm not 100% sure though.
blindrocket
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I plan on getting the WiiU for my kids, and yeah, I'll play something like ZombiU or whatever.
But I think getting them:
Nintendo land
Super Mario Bros. U
Scribblenauts Unlimited
They will be busy for quite awhile. My daughter would be even more set if they had a Nintendogs game for it.
But I think getting them:
Nintendo land
Super Mario Bros. U
Scribblenauts Unlimited
They will be busy for quite awhile. My daughter would be even more set if they had a Nintendogs game for it.
Gahiggidy
My aunt & uncle run a Mom & Pop store, "The Gamecube Hut", and sold 80k WiiU within minutes of opening.
Take out a full page ad in a magazine Nintendo reads.
Sounds like something you should try. Could you maybe post your router brand/model as it may help people who have the same and are on the fence about getting the console. Good luck.
phosphor112
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How is this a buyers remorse thread when most posts are "I don't have buyers remorse, and I have _____, ______, _____, _____ and _____ game along with _____, _____, _____ peripherals and an external HDD. I love it!"
Liquidsnake
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I agree with so much of this. Its my feelings to the T.
I have faith that Microsoft knows what its doing. I really do.
It goes to show that even though there's a few people that are disappointed with their purchase, most knew what they were getting into and even with a far from perfect launch, people are still satisfied with what is arguably a pretty nice piece of hardware.
I am all in w/ Microsoft at this point.
Clay Davis
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I agree with much of this, but one point.
aren't tablets just the new handheld for the younger generation? do you think they won't migrate over to consoles when they get tired of those games? I am also worried about the future of gaming, but I feel it might be misplaced as all we're seeing young kids choosing tablets over the latest nintendo handheld. it's not that much of a cause for concern yet.
I would also say the way nintendo have milked mario has done some serious damage to the series. almost every other game on the wii had mario in the title. it was disgraceful in some respects to see them milking it dry like sega have done with sonic.
Liquidsnake
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You know I have pretty much been all in with them from the start of this generation. Their online is just fantastic.
I have a friend who doesn't even play games, he uses his Xbox as a movie streaming machine. He could care less about games.
phosphor112
Banned
Lol, why are they hanging in the buyers remorse thread? Isn't there an OT for the Wii U?
Steve Youngblood
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Unless a new one sprung up, no, there isn't. The Wii U launch thread was locked.
I have a Motorola SURFboard SBG6580. It appears to be an issue with this router (among others) which really bites. I'm using WPA2-Personal AES Security.
Megathreads are banned. Something about having a cluster of people focused on one topic breeds system warriors and hivemind stuff.
And I agree with it. While the WUST were fun, many outsiders who had an outspoken opinion were often jumped on.
Hopefully the PS4 speculation thread doesn't fall that way.
tkscz
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I actually seem to be dealing with the opposite. I got my mom an NES for christmas, and while normally my 9 nieces and nephews try to hog her Ipad up, the moment they got a hold of Mario 3, they wouldn't get off until they left. I think it's more of a "what you put in front of them" thing. Give them kindles, they'll play, give them an NES, they'll play.
CHROMExSKULL
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I just got the deluxe but I did not see anything in the box for the deluxe digital promotion? can someone help me out with this? is there a code or anything i need to do?
*I think i answered my question, looks like u sign in to the website after u purchase something
*I think i answered my question, looks like u sign in to the website after u purchase something
Majima Everywhere System
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He could buy a Roku for the price of a year of live. Tell your friend.
Or maybe he is streaming from a PC??
Clay Davis
Member
there should be a leaflet in the box. check the manual bag.
if not, go here.
https://p.nintendo.net/deluxe/
I bought a Wii U when it launched, played ZombiU and sold the system a week later.
- ZombiU looked like a launch Xbox 360 game
- WiiU is slow
- No games announced for 2013 that I'd care for
I hope I never spend money on a Nintendo product until they learn how to make hardware and software that isn't several years old in terms of technology and performance.
I'm really glad there are people who enjoy the system and aren't bothered with Nintendo games being shit or just don't share the opinion at all.
- ZombiU looked like a launch Xbox 360 game
- WiiU is slow
- No games announced for 2013 that I'd care for
I hope I never spend money on a Nintendo product until they learn how to make hardware and software that isn't several years old in terms of technology and performance.
I'm really glad there are people who enjoy the system and aren't bothered with Nintendo games being shit or just don't share the opinion at all.
Christberg
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As someone so owns both, that's a tough one. AC3 has loads of content and a bunch of the side stuff is great. Especially the naval combat missions. It's a huge game that'll take you a couple of weeks to finish. It's got great production values and core tech. On the not so great side, the game has a few nasty bugs and polish issues. More importantly, the visual queues for all the core mechanics are poorly implemented and the game punishes you unfairly for failing to spot them/make proper use of them so you wind up with annoying half broken trial and error gameplay on a lot of the main missions. I can easily recommend the game for the side mission stuff, but it's not one I see running through more than once.
Ninja Gaiden 3 is a far simpler game with far less overall content. It consists of enter room, kill a bunch of stuff, rinse and repeat with a few simple platforming sections sprinkled in here and there. The thing is, it does it quite well and generally consistently so. It's a game that's got some difficulty to it but not unfairly so. It has several playable characters and a whole slew of combos and moves to master. You could easily run through it 3 or 4 times and still get something new out of it. There are a few silly mission related goals here and there and the story reads like something a 12 year old boy wrote. Plus whatever they're doing with their not that great looking smoke effects from rocket projectiles causes the frame rate to choke way worse than it should.
I'd say both titles are worth owning. Choosing between them is a matter of preference really. If you want a game with huge production values and tons of content go with AC3. If you want something more arcade-ish with decent replay factor go with NG3.
Having Mario in the title doesn't make it a Mario game. Mario Sports Mix isn't a Mario game. It's just a form of marketing. Sonic just has some terrible games that are true Sonic games -- the racing titles don't count as actual Sonic games.
You got 3 real Mario titles on Wii -- Galaxy, Galaxy 2, and NSMB Wii. 4 if you want to count Super Paper Mario.
Then why did you buy one in the first place?
TriangularDuck
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As someone who's recently played through the relatively close parallel of Condemned, and is currently playing ZombiU, you are dead fucking wrong.
CHROMExSKULL
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yeah, just found that, i just thought there would be some kind of code in the box, not sure how they know i have a deluxe just by my screen name but ok, well see tomorrow after i buy Little Inferno tonight
I am loving the system, couldnt get enough of it the last 2 nights, havnt even touched my 360 and I love my 360. Sonic Racing is a blast, Mario is great, cant wait till my fiancee is done being sick so we can play co op, hoping to try NintendoLand this weekend and im buying Little Inferno tonight, these games should hold me for a while. The controller is great, forget what its called but the message board thing is actually pretty fun, i found myself messing around with it for almost an hour last night just reading peoples posts and pictures, good times!!
Clay Davis
Member
what nonsense. a game with mario in it, him on the cover and his name headlining the game on the cover makes it is a mario game. it's a ludicrous to suggest otherwise.
Clay Davis
Member
I agree, but it's not much of an improvement.
maybe it's the drab and grey tint the game has, but it doesn't look leagues ahead of condemned.
Steve Youngblood
Member
I think his point is that the existence of the sometimes silly and sometimes solid spinoff titles doesn't necessarily harm the main product so long as the main product continues to be good. And I more or less agree with that assessment. I don't see Mario Sluggers or whatever it was called get released and suddenly lose interest in a Mario 3D game proper.
Exactly this.
GhostWriter24
Member
You believe that diluting the brand doesn't have any effect on the flagship Mario titles?
Steve Youngblood
Member
Honestly, I don't think it has that much of a negative impact on the flagship titles so long as the flagship titles continue to be good. Now, the dilution of the brand could have an impact on mediocre mainline entries the same way that it can hurt unnecessary spinoff titles. Maybe Mario's inclusion in Strikers worked well enough for me, but by the time they were playing Baseball I just said "pass" and ignored it. That could carry over into the mainline entries if there's some pessimism about the quality.
There was a comparison to Sonic. Personally, I think Sonic's downfall has a lot more to do with a lack of quality Sonic platformers released in over the recent years moreso than it would have to do with his use as a catch all mascot that can sell anything.
Clay Davis
Member
I was referring more to games like sonic and mario at the Olympics and other shovelware. it harms the brand through market saturation and diluting the series. constantly having a new mario game (regardless of whether it's a main line game or not) dilutes the brand.
I find it astonishing that this is even up for debate.
Steve Youngblood
Member
What's being debated is not that diluting the brand harms the ability to continue to use the character as an effective marketing tool. Honestly, at this point, if I'm pitching Nintendo a new sports title, I'm probably not all that convinced that slapping Mario on there will lead to massive sales. They've gone to that well enough that I don't think it's an automatic recipe for success.
However, I do disagree that it necessarily hurts the mainline entries. I'd be open to some analysis that suggests otherwise, but I have a hard time buying that a subpar Mario and Sonic Olympic title would have a meaningful impact on consumer interest in the Mario Galaxy games, for instance.
As it pertains to the Wii U, I could buy that New Super Mario Bros. 2 for the 3DS coming out so recently has caused New Super Mario fatigue and hindered interest in NSMBU. However, I don't think that Mario and Sonic at the Summer Games would have had much of an impact.
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