I think some people believe that the 360 lunched last year (hence, "it looks like a launch (last year) title"), and/or have never seen an actual launch day 360 title. It looks better than many games released in the last twelve months, and could play better if it supported wiimote + nunchuck.
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Wii U Buyer's remorse thread
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I think some people believe that the 360 lunched last year (hence, "it looks like a launch (last year) title"), and/or have never seen an actual launch day 360 title. It looks better than many games released in the last twelve months, and could play better if it supported wiimote + nunchuck.
Clay Davis
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we'll have to agree to disagree as anecdotal evidence / feedback would just turn the debate into a big mess.
I still feel those games damage the image of the brand, and I feel we'll be seeing that damage hitting home and really affecting sales with the next main line mario title. I feel the tipping point in market saturation has been reached and mario doesn't command the interest or attention it once did.
this just isn't true. zombiu doesn't look better than many games of a similar genre released in the last year. that's just wrong.
What bullshit. So people who enjoy the games are ignoring the fact that "they are shit"? Yeah okay.
There was a "Wii U Buyers Without Remorse" thread that popped up in reaction to this one, but I guess there wasn't enough drama or whatever in that one. Not that this thread is very interesting either.
evilromero
Member
So I've had my Wii U since launch and played the ass out of ZombiU (over 17 hours). But aside from NL and Mario U multiplayer at my friend's family on occasion, I haven't even touched mine save for a night of Netflix. As a hardcore Nintendo loyalist I can't be the only one that feels Nintendo's wanting to find middle ground between casual and hardcore gamers to be a complete failure at this point. It's like if a movie studio decided to start explaining to audiences before the feature what a cut was or what a fade to black means. We understand the elements of film editing without someone needing to explain them to us. So why must Nintendo, a company that began by establishing many important video game conventions, regress to creating shallow experiences? They are trying to be something for everyone but in doing so push away the mass gamer audience. So my gripe is, where are the games that Nintendo promised the hardcore gamer back at E3? This system was supposed to be what the Wii wasn't but to be honest by this time after the Wii launch I was playing Twilight Princess, Excitetruck AND Wii Sports. How is the Wii U any more hardcore? Why aren't GCN games up on the VC? That's an easy sell. Why isn't the entire Wii VC catalog available right there in the eShop? Why didn't Nintendo think two years out that they'd need a 3D Mario for the Wii U launch? Something to showcase, from a technical perspective, what the new system was all about? Sorry. It's been stewing in my mind. Maybe I'm in the minority. /rant
BlazingDarkness
Member
I've not turned mine on in like 3 weeks :/
If I didn't get it for cheap on the Amazon fumble I'd totally have regretted it.
If I didn't get it for cheap on the Amazon fumble I'd totally have regretted it.
Link?
The December numbers in Japan while not record breaking are very far from a disastrous.
Started back on zombie u today. Did a good 4-5 hours. Game frustrates the hell out of me at times but its great stuff.
JaseMath
Member
You mean this thread?
Clay Davis
Member
Same, but I haven't turned it on in just under two weeks. Giving serious thought to putting it back in its box. Mighty switch force was a last ditch attempt to keep me interested in the console but it did absolutely nothing for me. :/
You might want to read the entire sentence. Ask for help if you can't, I'll try my best to guide you.
I did, thanks.
It came off as rude and belittling those who happen to enjoy them. Just say you don't care for the system and move on.
I'll move on
Hell I don't even own one yet because I've learned from the 3DS, but different strokes for different folks, yeah?
Freezie KO
Banned
So you bought a Wii U even though you hate Nintendo games AND there are no future games you want AND you (presumably) got one game for which your biggest complaint is the graphics that you could've seen videos of online.
You're either lying or the worst informed consumer on Planet Earth. Errol Morris should do a documentary on you.
Agent Unknown
Member
If this is what buyer's remorse feels like then I want to experience more of it.
One of my best friends decided to get his deluxe set today not long after playing my system. Just set it up and played 4p Luigi's ghost mansion, that game is addiction defined.
One of my best friends decided to get his deluxe set today not long after playing my system. Just set it up and played 4p Luigi's ghost mansion, that game is addiction defined.
Bulbagarden
Member
The only remorse I have about my Wii U is that I soon won't have a lot of time to play it. Once this Christmas break is over, I'll be back to work, with very little time to spare for gaming.
Actually, I take that back. I do have one other regret. That we can't get gamepad reception from anywhere but the lounge, dining and kitchen. There's just too much dense material between the console and the rest of the place. Oh well, we were thinking about moving next year anyway, something for us to consider when looking for a new place.
Actually, I take that back. I do have one other regret. That we can't get gamepad reception from anywhere but the lounge, dining and kitchen. There's just too much dense material between the console and the rest of the place. Oh well, we were thinking about moving next year anyway, something for us to consider when looking for a new place.
:lol
Smiles and Cries
Member
13 hours of Batman straight, still none of this remorse, if anything I am learning something from the Wii U... That it is selling me on other consoles I might have to choose one of the upcoming consoles to sit next to it this time. Simple reason being I am having a whole lot of fun from IPs that are new/late to a Nintendo platform But I find it so hard to pick one... MS or Sony? sheesh
Maybe it will be a PC... I at the very least have to play Sleeping Dogs but it is not on my Mac.
Maybe it will be a PC... I at the very least have to play Sleeping Dogs but it is not on my Mac.
Alex
Member
I don't have any remorse, but I knew what I was getting myself into. I bought a box for Nintendo games, and they'll come, maybe I'll have to cease doing this outside of their handheld options if the output isn't a little more stable, but for now I look forward to Pikmin 3 and Monster Hunter Tri.
Probably best to get a PC at this point, unless you're adverse to building it or can't facilitate it into your setup. Nothing will match the variety and you will save crazy amounts of money on games* and hell, even the hardware is pretty trivial at this point in the cycle to get things running at 1080px60FPS.
*Well, until you can't stop buying everything because it's only five dollars.
On the flip side, If I was going to get another console, I wouldn't get it now, I'd just wait and get one of the new ones. I have to imagine ONE of them will have decent backwards compatibility as well, then you can get all the new shit across the next ~5+ years too.
Probably best to get a PC at this point, unless you're adverse to building it or can't facilitate it into your setup. Nothing will match the variety and you will save crazy amounts of money on games* and hell, even the hardware is pretty trivial at this point in the cycle to get things running at 1080px60FPS.
*Well, until you can't stop buying everything because it's only five dollars.
On the flip side, If I was going to get another console, I wouldn't get it now, I'd just wait and get one of the new ones. I have to imagine ONE of them will have decent backwards compatibility as well, then you can get all the new shit across the next ~5+ years too.
Smiles and Cries
Member
good points to think about thanks Alex
I fear my digital habit... I have enough Steam games on my mac and they have a small selection
Test Drive Unlimited 2 was $9 I wanted to play that when it came out as well but being on a Mac and being a Nintendo platform owner saved me a lot of cash (until now)
I'm on my second menu page with the games I got off eShop so glad nothing came out this week, I need to kick this habit... that has been the main reason I shied away from multi-console ownership... I like to collect shit... I don't like selling them after I get them. I don't want used or renting. Something is wrong with me...
That Giantbomb Skit with the collection made me worry I am not on that level but I can see it
I forgot to say I was forced to delete my Bootcamp/Parallels Windows files from my mac I was spending too much money from Free to Play MMO racing games
I fear my digital habit... I have enough Steam games on my mac and they have a small selection
Test Drive Unlimited 2 was $9 I wanted to play that when it came out as well but being on a Mac and being a Nintendo platform owner saved me a lot of cash (until now)
I'm on my second menu page with the games I got off eShop so glad nothing came out this week, I need to kick this habit... that has been the main reason I shied away from multi-console ownership... I like to collect shit... I don't like selling them after I get them. I don't want used or renting. Something is wrong with me...
That Giantbomb Skit with the collection made me worry I am not on that level but I can see it
I forgot to say I was forced to delete my Bootcamp/Parallels Windows files from my mac I was spending too much money from Free to Play MMO racing games
Well, I'm in the same minority. I used to be a Nintendo fanatic until about 2 years into the Wii. I just grew tired of the company and its games at that point. I was sick of waiting for such a long time for a mediocre product. Punch Out comes to mind. I would look at the games I was playing on my 360 and ps3 and be amazed at how much more technically advanced they were than the games coming out from Nintendo. Even a game like Forza or MLB the Show shows how much dedication and time went into the creation of the game. All the little details and nuances that create a great gaming experience were on display. Conversely, when I put in a game like Punch Out or Twilight Princess, I never felt that same dedication. It started to feel like I was playing cheap games made for a cheap system. I sold my Wii soon after that two year mark.
I think the Wii U may have huge problems based solely on the games released. I see people talking about the next Zelda, the next Mario, but I never get the feeling that Nintendo will release something that will knock our socks off. Games like Skyrim and even Dragon's Dogma have raised the bar so high that Zelda often comes off looking weak in comparison. I think 3d Mario is the only game Nintendo really has at this point to wow us. Even then, fans have to wait a long time to even get a hint at what's coming. I would love to be a Nintendo fan again.
I could see you making this point about many Wii games, but Punch-Out!! and Twilight Princess as examples of games lacking in "dedication and time" or "little details and nuances that create a great gaming experience"?
I'd argue Twilight Princess and Punch-Out!! are both games that show exactly the thing you say Wii games, on the whole, lack.
I'm puzzled.
George Claw M.D.
Member
Well, I've decided to return my Deluxe Wii U. I don't feel remorse, though, since I went in with a plan. None of the launch games warranted a system purchase for me, but I preordered the system just in case it turned out to be another Wii phenomenon and would be difficult to find if/when I finally decided to jump in. Now that we know that's not the case, I can feel confident that I'll be able to easily get another one if I change my mind later. I at least got to take advantage of the extended Holiday return period to trial run the system.
On to my impressions.
The only Wii U games I've played were the pack-in Nintendoland and NSMBU. I enjoyed both, and even completed the main game in NSMBU. Though, I thought the Gamepad was shoe horned into Nintendoland and wasn't really necessary aside from the Haunted Mansion game. Several of the games would've played better using a Sixaxis type controller and the big screen, instead of forcing gameplay onto the Gamepad. Same deal with NSMBU. Aside from the hidden items like the moon which only showed up on the Gamepad, Nintendo could have easily used the Wii Remote and onscreen pointer for boost mode. While I did have fun with those games, it was short-lived. I've actually went back to playing PS3 games the last couple of weeks, and have had no desire to even power on my Wii U. I also have a sealed Zombie U, but I have no desire to even play it, and that will be returned, too.
Regarding the OS and apps. Everyone already knows how slow the system feels. It's painstakingly slow to the point of making me want to change activities as little as possible. And as for Miiverse, it really doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather read gaming discussions on GAF and look at artwork elsewhere. I turned off Miiverse comments in NSMBU because they're rarely helpful and they just clutter the overworld. I don't need social media forced into my games.
Regarding the controllers, my god Nintendo makes you pay up the ass with money and physical space to make the Wii U a fully functional multiplayer console. Wanna play NSMBU co-op with your wife? Well, then you have to buy another Wii Remote, because the Gamepad only works in boost mode. Oh, and the Pro Controller is inexplicably incompatible with it, too.
Regarding the Gamepad in particular, I wish Nintendo never went that route. It feels like Nintendo was banking on another novelty to catapult the Wii U the way the Wii Remote did for the Wii, and they ended up sacrificing other stuff to do it. The whole game on the small screen just doesn't appeal to me. I figured I'd try it out, and it's as unappealing as I thought it would be. If I want to game on the small screen, I'll grab my phone, PSP, or NDS. The worst part is that it's not always optional. Some games simply require its use, like playing an archer in the Zelda mini game. There's no reason I should be relegated to playing it on the Gamepad screen, and if the Gamepad didn't exist at all, I'd be enjoying the game on my glorious Kuro plasma. But because the Gamepad does exist, some devs will force its use, just because. Furthermore, as a primary controller it's unwieldy and the battery life sucks balls. I don't know why Nintendo didn't include a larger battery, since there's extra unused space where the battery is located. The battery life just doesn't cut it as a primary controller. You have to stay tethered during extended playing sessions which defeats the point of wireless, and that really isn't an option if you're passing it around the group during local play parties. I would have been happier had Nintendo simply kept the Nunchuck and Remote as the only controllers, and put the Gamepad money into more system power and/or a cheaper price.
My mind may be changed later, but as of now, the future looks bleak for the Wii U appealing to me. The PS4/720 are right around the corner and I'm also going to build a new gaming rig. The Wii U just came out and already feels dated to me. I may jump back in if it ever builds a compelling enough library to offset all my gripes with the system, but that's a big if, since I don't expect it to get many big 3rd party exclusives, and Nintendo's first party must-haves are few and far between.
Anecdotally, I have 2 other friends who got the system at launch, and both of them have expressed buyer's remorse. They were both excited to just be buying a new console, since it's been so long since a new console launched. But like me, they haven't played their Wii Us in a while, and are simply underwhelmed with the system.
About the only things I'll regret losing if I rebuy the console at a later time, are the cool NNIDs I was able to reserve by getting an early system.
On to my impressions.
The only Wii U games I've played were the pack-in Nintendoland and NSMBU. I enjoyed both, and even completed the main game in NSMBU. Though, I thought the Gamepad was shoe horned into Nintendoland and wasn't really necessary aside from the Haunted Mansion game. Several of the games would've played better using a Sixaxis type controller and the big screen, instead of forcing gameplay onto the Gamepad. Same deal with NSMBU. Aside from the hidden items like the moon which only showed up on the Gamepad, Nintendo could have easily used the Wii Remote and onscreen pointer for boost mode. While I did have fun with those games, it was short-lived. I've actually went back to playing PS3 games the last couple of weeks, and have had no desire to even power on my Wii U. I also have a sealed Zombie U, but I have no desire to even play it, and that will be returned, too.
Regarding the OS and apps. Everyone already knows how slow the system feels. It's painstakingly slow to the point of making me want to change activities as little as possible. And as for Miiverse, it really doesn't appeal to me. I'd rather read gaming discussions on GAF and look at artwork elsewhere. I turned off Miiverse comments in NSMBU because they're rarely helpful and they just clutter the overworld. I don't need social media forced into my games.
Regarding the controllers, my god Nintendo makes you pay up the ass with money and physical space to make the Wii U a fully functional multiplayer console. Wanna play NSMBU co-op with your wife? Well, then you have to buy another Wii Remote, because the Gamepad only works in boost mode. Oh, and the Pro Controller is inexplicably incompatible with it, too.
Regarding the Gamepad in particular, I wish Nintendo never went that route. It feels like Nintendo was banking on another novelty to catapult the Wii U the way the Wii Remote did for the Wii, and they ended up sacrificing other stuff to do it. The whole game on the small screen just doesn't appeal to me. I figured I'd try it out, and it's as unappealing as I thought it would be. If I want to game on the small screen, I'll grab my phone, PSP, or NDS. The worst part is that it's not always optional. Some games simply require its use, like playing an archer in the Zelda mini game. There's no reason I should be relegated to playing it on the Gamepad screen, and if the Gamepad didn't exist at all, I'd be enjoying the game on my glorious Kuro plasma. But because the Gamepad does exist, some devs will force its use, just because. Furthermore, as a primary controller it's unwieldy and the battery life sucks balls. I don't know why Nintendo didn't include a larger battery, since there's extra unused space where the battery is located. The battery life just doesn't cut it as a primary controller. You have to stay tethered during extended playing sessions which defeats the point of wireless, and that really isn't an option if you're passing it around the group during local play parties. I would have been happier had Nintendo simply kept the Nunchuck and Remote as the only controllers, and put the Gamepad money into more system power and/or a cheaper price.
My mind may be changed later, but as of now, the future looks bleak for the Wii U appealing to me. The PS4/720 are right around the corner and I'm also going to build a new gaming rig. The Wii U just came out and already feels dated to me. I may jump back in if it ever builds a compelling enough library to offset all my gripes with the system, but that's a big if, since I don't expect it to get many big 3rd party exclusives, and Nintendo's first party must-haves are few and far between.
Anecdotally, I have 2 other friends who got the system at launch, and both of them have expressed buyer's remorse. They were both excited to just be buying a new console, since it's been so long since a new console launched. But like me, they haven't played their Wii Us in a while, and are simply underwhelmed with the system.
About the only things I'll regret losing if I rebuy the console at a later time, are the cool NNIDs I was able to reserve by getting an early system.
Finally got the Wii U to connect to Internet after having it since f-ing Christmas. Messed around with the OS which is fine but so damn slow. The Miiversw thing doesn't fly with me but I can see the appeal.
The only game I have is Nintendoland and its fun but the single player experience is lacking after a few plays for me. I'm not a mini-game guy no matter how "deep" they may be.
I don't know guys, me and my bro played with the Wii U for a couple hours and both felt underwhelmed but not entirely disappointed. I'm a Nintendo fan at heart BUT after the GCN, it hasn't been as rewarding so I became an 360 owner and love it. I'm still excited about the potential of HD Zelda and Metroid, even if the Wii U will be outdated in a couple years. I'm just not sure now is the time to purchase a Wii U.
I would return mine but it was a gift from the fiancé and I know how hard it was for her to get it and she is in school so it set her back a pretty penny too. So I'm going to Gamefly Zombie U and some other exclusives and hope that my Wii U doesn't become a paper weight like my Wii was.
For the record, I did download the Rayman Legends demo and unless it was the Sam Adam's talking last night, the demo was f-ing EPIC! It really felt like OOOOH THAT'S WHAT NINTENDO HAD IN MIND!!! The only announced game I'm completely excited about and could go a long way in showing gamers what the Wii U could be.
So to all Wii U owners, proud and remorseful alike, here's to hoping that 2013 isn't a complete loss and we all feel good about our Wii U.
The only game I have is Nintendoland and its fun but the single player experience is lacking after a few plays for me. I'm not a mini-game guy no matter how "deep" they may be.
I don't know guys, me and my bro played with the Wii U for a couple hours and both felt underwhelmed but not entirely disappointed. I'm a Nintendo fan at heart BUT after the GCN, it hasn't been as rewarding so I became an 360 owner and love it. I'm still excited about the potential of HD Zelda and Metroid, even if the Wii U will be outdated in a couple years. I'm just not sure now is the time to purchase a Wii U.
I would return mine but it was a gift from the fiancé and I know how hard it was for her to get it and she is in school so it set her back a pretty penny too. So I'm going to Gamefly Zombie U and some other exclusives and hope that my Wii U doesn't become a paper weight like my Wii was.
For the record, I did download the Rayman Legends demo and unless it was the Sam Adam's talking last night, the demo was f-ing EPIC! It really felt like OOOOH THAT'S WHAT NINTENDO HAD IN MIND!!! The only announced game I'm completely excited about and could go a long way in showing gamers what the Wii U could be.
So to all Wii U owners, proud and remorseful alike, here's to hoping that 2013 isn't a complete loss and we all feel good about our Wii U.
Xenoblade
Clay Davis
Member
people get caught up in launch hype and make decisions / purchases they might otherwise not have made. it's not uncommon.
Master Nairb
Member
Yeah my Wii U keeps hard locking even after the latest patch!
Clay Davis
Member
mario galaxy 1 and 2, twilight princess, boom blox, silent hill: shattered memories, donkey kong country returns, kirby's epic yarn, smash bros brawl, red steel 2. there are plenty more, but these along with xeno, should keep you busy for a while.
Super Mario Galaxy
Super Mario Galaxy 2
New Super Mario Bros. Wii
Xenoblade
Zelda: Twilight Princess
Mario Kart Wii
Fire Emblem: Radiant Dawn
Super Smash Bros. Brawl
The Last Story
Punch Out!
Donkey Kong Country Returns
Muramasa: The Demon Blade
Wario Land Shake It
Tatsunoko Vs. Capcom
Pick anyone you want. They're all awesome.
I swear I've just been lucky as not had one hard lock pre and post patch.
Clay Davis
Member
I'd also add sin and punishment to this along with the ones I mentioned above that aren't mentioned in this post.
wii had quite a few hidden treasures, some of them are pretty hard to find now though. so prepare to pay more than you would prefer for some of them.
Dr. Feel Good
Banned
Yeah I've sort of played out Mario and NL, think I might hit up some Wii games as I skipped it as well. I've beaten Mario Galaxy 1 and Twilight Princess. I really love Zelda but have heard bad things about SS and I really don't enjoy TP.
Yeah what the hell... Why would you even buy wiiu near launch when you dont like nintendo
Spieler Eins
Member
Also No More Heroes and Little Kings Story.
And since he doesn't have a Gamecube: Metroid Prime Trilogy, New Play Control Pikmin 2 and Resident Evil Remake Archive. Wii really got itself lots of hidden gems while non-owners were undeservingly shitting on the console just because Nintendo chose to focus on Wii Fit and such in the commercials prominently. WiiU has none of the things right now which made the Wii good, but if you've skipped the latter you're going to be quite busy with the former nevertheless.
Spieler Eins
Member
meh, Mario Kart Wii is in no way a must have and I see like 4 must haves only sitting in the ,,nice to have'' category.
Thats why its decent and not great
I can understand the disappointment with the Wii if you hold technical prowess in high regard.
But to complain about game design and dedication to it, and then mention Twilight Princess and....fucking Punch-Out? The later especially was one of those games that reminded you why this hobby is so fucking great, and to a lesser extent, just how awesome Nintendo can be when they embrace their...
...nintendoness
evilromero
Member
You seriously left off Excite Truck? One of my most played games. And fucking Metroid Prime 3? Is this is joke post? Also, Wii Sports Resort?
evilromero
Member
PO and TP were great and the system needed like twenty more of those type of games. Also, why wasn't there a Nintendo racer at launch? A Wave Race or Excite? Again, so many missed opportunities. This company needs someone to come in and give them a spark. They are sorely missing the magic from the late 80s and early 90s when they had the dream team. I'll still hang onto my Wii U, out of stupid blind fanboy loyalty. But I'm just barely hanging on.
mikeysteena
Neo Member
I feel the same way as a lot of you guys BUT although my wii u is currently collecting dust under tv (Mario wii u done and dusted) there is a lot of stuff that I know ill want to play in the next 1 to 2 years. Just because I'm not playing it right now doesn't mean I've got buyers remorse
F zero is still coming right guys?
evilromero
Member
It was never even announced. So far there have been no announcements for F-Zero, Star Fox, Wave Race, Excite, Pilotwings, Metroid, Zelda, Mario (though we can safely assume it's coming), Wii Sports, 1080, etc you name it. Instead we're waiting months and months for announcements like Game & Wario. That shit takes serious dev resources.
mikeysteena
Neo Member
that was my poor attempt at humour
tbh tho it's quite safe to assume that at least some of these will come to wii u. Remember the chants last year of "panic mode Nintendo is the best Nintendo" sales aren't great and the one thing Nintendo does well when their consoles aren't selling is being out the heavy hitters. Personally I think that f zero and starfox are safe bets (even if they are released onto eshop as a xbla style smaller title) my rule of thumb is if a franchise was included on Nintendo land then all is not lost...... YetWhat was the last game in the genre of survival horror.. Silent hill downpour ?
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