In my personal opinion, I think Nintendo really needs to keep the Wii in the brand and on the box. It will be their biggest selling point with casuals. They just need to market it as such. Market blitz the new "Wii U" the same way Apple does when a new iPad comes out and Nintendo will have the sales and the money to court 3rd parties to get the hardcores to buy it. There's no reason for casuals and hardcores to be at odds over a system, and Nintendo may be on the right strategy to achieve that in the end.
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Wii U Speculation thread IV: Photoshop rumors and image memes
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In my personal opinion, I think Nintendo really needs to keep the Wii in the brand and on the box. It will be their biggest selling point with casuals. They just need to market it as such. Market blitz the new "Wii U" the same way Apple does when a new iPad comes out and Nintendo will have the sales and the money to court 3rd parties to get the hardcores to buy it. There's no reason for casuals and hardcores to be at odds over a system, and Nintendo may be on the right strategy to achieve that in the end.
GameplayWhore
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Oh, wow. This was fiscal year ending thing. So we should get another of those in a couple days, no?
Hero of Legend
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Just saw that Nintendo U vid, it's a well done fake I'll admit, and also, the logo is very clever.
Better than Wii U at least.
Better than Wii U at least.
GameplayWhore
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Is that the "Nintendo U" one where the logo looks like a zero?
There were better logos with the same name done half a year ago. I won't say by whom.
Is that for the actual meeting, or just the earnings release? I'm pretty sure it's the latter.
I see someone made a thread about the Crysis 3 BS. Man, I guess that helps people push their agenda. Either way, I would not be surprised if Crysis 3 eventually made it to the Wii U. There's simply no reason for it not to. Considering that people can't announce games anyway, no point in getting up in arms about it.
StreetsAhead
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The earnings release is scheduled for tomorrow (Thursday, April 26th) in Japan.
http://www.nintendo.co.jp/ir/en/schedule/index.html
The investor's meeting is expected to be Friday.
I know it' not really needed at this point because it's so obviously fake anyways, but I wanted to point out that the Japanese written there is pretty...weird for an announcement. Seems like google translate or something (uploader account is called japanglish? yeah fitting haha).
I'll have to drive-by this but I just wanted to point out that "この冬来る" doesn't look very much like anything japanese people would write, in fact putting "coming this winter" into google translate put's out that phrase. It's missing a particle that should be there and using 来る　"coming" is weird itself (should be 発売　"release" or smth.).
Uh yeah. As always smart people feel free to shoot me down (StreetsAhead and Dcharlie popped in why didn't anybody ask them :lol).
Do I get a lollipop now? =3
When put next to Nintendo Wii a Nintendo U sounds cheezy I think. People will go, "So you named the successor to the Wii, U? Lame". And they'll also ask, "If Wii was about We, is it not about We any more?
maybe, but I don't expect it. They use to do it almost every quarter, but didn't release that count at all last year. The end of the year could be different.
StreetsAhead
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Yeah it should say something like 冬発売 at the very least.
The Japanese is very weird. Would have said something if anyone had believed it, but since everyone realised it was fake, didn't seem worth it.
A big ol' lollipop for you.
Thought so.
Yeah it should say something like 冬発売 at the very least.
The Japanese is very weird. Would have said something if anyone had believed it, but since everyone realised it was fake, didn't seem worth it.
A big ol' lollipop for you.
Yeah.
Thanks for verifying!
It's just that it was brought up for the 3rd time already so I figured giving people an even bigger plank to bonk people over the head with would be worth it.
Waaai!
These threads have to break all gaf speed posting records!
GameplayWhore
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Perhaps the next Wii U Speculation Thread should be subtitled "We already heard the news".
Gimme a thread you think might beat it, and I'll give you a pretty graph comparing them.
Sis Focaccia
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Agreed. People think the name is confusing, but as long as Nintendo gets the marketing right... and makes a better logo... aaand gives the boring console design a *little* something extra... then the public will know it's a new thing. They're hardly guaranteed to do all three things, but I'm hopeful they might.
I've been a fiend to these threads, but I think it's time to go on a media blackout until E3 for me. The second coming will be more exciting without the leaky knowledge. Plus this addiction to "news" cannot possibly be healthy
Anyway... keep this party alive will ya guys!!
IceDoesntHelp
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So Super Smash Bros. 4 is going to sell like, 2 copies now because of PlayStation All-Stars, right?
1 on Wii U, 1 on 3DS. Sounds right.
Just a fair warning: if the year-end earnings report is as bad as Nintendo predicted several months ago, then be prepared for lots of doomy talk, a healthy number of wishes for third-party status and/or death, and perhaps a thread or three on the topic.
Steel yourselves, folks.
Steel yourselves, folks.
Fourth Storm
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I like this idea. This thread has been consistently ahead of the flow in Wii U information. Bravo, Nintendo- Gaf.
Fixed.
Why do you have to steel yourself?
I mean I get the news/talk gets annoying, but people will think it no matter what.
Can't get better until it gets...worse, then it gets better...? Ah well, if it's a bad report, no doubt we're in for some positive bomb-drops to cover it up.
So it'll be just like any other day on GAF?
bgassassin
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Nope. Nintendo is in a perpetual state of doomed.
GameplayWhore
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I've been a fiend to these threads, but I think it's time to go on a media blackout until E3 for me. The second coming will be more exciting without the leaky knowledge. Plus this addiction to "news" cannot possibly be healthy
Anyway... keep this party alive will ya guys!!
It would be a lot smarter if you went on blackout after the 26th. There's going to be a shitton of Nintendo posts in just two days. (edit: by that I mean new threads taking over the first page of Gaming)
If the losses are worse than expected but the shipment (of the 3DS, particularly) numbers are strong, I think it'd be actually a bit more positive than if numbers were not as bad but shipments were lower. Lower earnings on good sales would imply to me that there's more R&D and dealings with third parties going on.
I am wondering how much their "Free Middleware, Y'all!" policy is actually biting into their bottom line.
shadyspace
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I'm sure someone else has already answered this but what info did we get from the last one of these?
lordfroakie
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Which one has more recognizing characters?
Aahh.. true dat. Indeed.
IceDoesntHelp
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PlayStation All-Stars, obviously.
I think Wii U sounds cheesier than just "Nintendo U" and about as cheesy as "Xbox" and "Xbox 360" as well. Hell, "Wii" is sorta corny. You do have a point with "no longer about We," which crossed my mind after I typed.
I guess it comes down to marketing strategy. Wii (we) focused heavily on multiplayer gaming with initial advertising - the kind of multiplayer that puts everyone together in a living room. Is the U the same thing with only 1 tablet and (presumably) a strong online strategy? Then again if Nintendo is expecting Wii remotes to be used extensively, I can see why they'd want to keep Wii as prominent as possible. I suppose it will make more sense when there's actual software to talk about. But just personally, I think "Nintendo U" is a cleaner, stronger name.
I don't like things that conflict. And We You conflicts. But maybe that's what Nintendo likes about it? It worked for Icy Hot.
Fourth Storm
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Man, the emphatic "NOs" from Crytek, Kojima, Levine, et. al are bringing me down. Someone remind me what games this thing does have again. Ninja Gaiden 3? They should just cancel it if most accounts of its quality are to be believed.
Remember the last guy who said something like that?
Let's just say it did NOT work out.
Christberg
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I figure they probably have gigantic volume license deals where "free" actually means "included in the cost of the dev kit." because it's such a huge license, it's dirt cheap for them.
Pretty amazing what knd of deals you get when you're a gigantic company like Nintendo.
C'mon 3DS revision... I want to play SM3DL so damn bad.
:lololol This place pretty much is that movie sometimes. People wanting to see the world burn and whatnot.
:lololol This place pretty much is that movie sometimes. People wanting to see the world burn and whatnot.
GameplayWhore
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Say, when does Sony announce? I remember it being generally before Nintendo announces, but (A) my memory sucks, and (B) I see that the Internet is telling me it's not until middle of next month. Is this true?
Microsoft announced results, and I updated the spreadsheet. Their "Entertainment and Devices Division" posted a loss of $229m, bringing the Xbox 360 overall profitability total (sans R&D, ignoring non-gaming items of the division) down to about a quarter million dollars.
Is it wrong of me to suspect massive R&D expenditures being the primary reason? Taken alone, their gaming stuff should be very profitable right now, I would think.
Oh god, I can see it now.
"HA Nintendo you're finished! I'm sorry, but this beats Smash in every way."
"It's so amazing how Sony can be so innovative as to do this with their amazing first party characters!"
"This a game for REAL fighting game fans. Sick of that casual mash fest."
"Look at those graphics son!"
bgassassin
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The most recent one told us that Wii U would have NFC and confirmed individual user accounts
I think I saw it said Sony was in early May. And I would definitely attribute that to R&D IMO.
Sis Focaccia
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Thanks for the tip. Do you think we'll get any big news from the investors meeting?
It seems weird to me how the Big N needs to placate dumb investors like they do, when most of the shareholders are Yamauchis and Nintendo employees. Why do they need to please the short-term investors? I don't know much about the stock market. Could Nintendo technically buy back all the stock out there, go private and just roll with their own master plan?
shadyspace
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Hmm, if there's going to be a name change this seems like it would be the place to do it.
IceDoesntHelp
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They should just rename the Wii U to Hot Problems, it'd be a hit!
StreetsAhead
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Depends on how big the loss is. If it's larger than anticipated, they need to give investors a reason not to sell. (NSMB2 'announcement' is likely a pre-emptive part of that.)
I wouldn't let it bother you, a lot of games are already pretty far in development where it would just take away resources from smaller teams (those 3 arent exactly HUGE teams, but not really small either). It does NOT mean we won't get like Bioshock Infinite GOTY one day, not the same, but thats out there. Now titles coming out next holiday should be there no matter what.
GameplayWhore
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I'm expecting additional information about their network services. They should also give some additional 3DS information which may give us some clues. Maybe they'll namedrop some of the big franchises that are first in line for their Wii U development, but it'll be vague, like "We will be making a game starring Mario as well as a followup to one of our more popular 3DS titles".
It would be an excellent opportunity to announce the name change. Do it Nintendo! Your shareholders will thank you for alleviating the brand confusion.
Fourth Storm
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StreetsAhead
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Is it also possible that after 5 years or so of PS360/PC development, some devs are optimized for that scenario and just don't have/didn't plan for the time or resources (man power, budget, etc) required to build/port another SKU, especially once development has passed a certain point?
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