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Wii U Speculation Thread of Brains Beware: Wii U Re-Unveiling At E3 2012
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BlackNMild2k1
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Deguello said:
Thunder Monkey said:
Oh you guys are cracking me up.
StreetsAhead
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Vinci said:
But I can only enjoy my toys if the bloom, lens flares, blood physics, sub-surface scattering, global illumination, hyper-real textures, lip-synced, facial mapping, destructible environments, cloth physics, tessellation, draw distance and depth of field are Next Gen (tm).
And not just Next Gen (tm), but the most MAXTREME Next Gen (tm) possible.
-Pyromaniac-
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I know we all have differing views but I have something we can all agree on. Fuck Reggie. Hope he isn't around for the wii-u but that's physically impossible 
Dash Kappei
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Wii NU
Wii New
We knew
Wii ∞ You
Win You
Wii New
We knew
Wii ∞ You
Win You
NinjaTehFish
Banned
*Circus Music*
ClovingWestbrook
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Mlatador said:
Welp BurntPork, you are no longer the most crazy poster in this thread. I congratulate you. Your title of 'King lolololol' has been hearby removed and has been giving to Mlatador.
bgassassin
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lherre said:
But two of those three took some serious lump to reach 50 million. And you're a dev so of course you want as much access to power as possible. I'd be the "suit" you'd talk about behind my back because I'd be more focused on the budget and that my console doesn't give you what you want.
This was an ugly gen that saw many (in video game business context) casualties along the way.
BurntPork said:
Really? You say that despite lherre saying earlier that anytime they pushed the console it would freeze at least back during that time? Sounds to me reason enough to target stability through lower performance than maxed out crashes.
StreetsAhead
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BurntPork said:
It better be or that guy who freaks out almost every time it's mentioned may just have a stroke.
I think by the e3 sizzle reel we can expect, at least, CG trailers for Mario Wii U, Mario Kart 8, Smash Bros 4, Zelda 3DS and gameplay of Pikmin 3, Retro's game, Wii U Sports/Play, and NSMB Mii.
cartman414
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ClovingSteam said:
The developers put most of their eggs in the PS3/360 basket, and underestimated the potential of the Wii. The PS3/360 WERE overpowered, in that they made development costly for studios unable to put out successive megahits, and that few people had HD at the time. It was partly thanks to the Wii that Majesco is still around, and Ubisoft was actually able to make the money they needed to make the AAA games for the HD twins.
Now I won't question the Wii having a massive deficit of power, but at the time, it was a necessary enema.
Dash Kappei
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NinjaTehFish said:
ThatObviousUser
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-Pyromaniac- said:I know we all have differing views but I have something we can all agree on. Fuck Reggie. Hope he isn't around for the wii-u but that's physically impossible
Reggie is a symptom, not a cause. Besides that, he's the most well-known company figure in all of gaming that's not Miyamoto and Iwata. He's also a great presenter, when he has something to present. If Reggie is axed, in two years we'll all be pining for the days of the Regginator, I assure you.
ThoseDeafMutes
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Andrex said:
I feel sorry for the guy. He killed it back in '04/'05, but Nintendo has been feeding him a stream of shit sandwiches to sell to fans ever since then. Every exciting announcement is weighed down by a bunch of boring or terrible ones.
Zoramon089
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ElTopo said:
Lol, do you (and others) actually believe this?
BurntPork said:
I'm with ElTopo on this one. I refuse to believe the title exists until they show a fucking screen shot. Still bitter. 3 FUCKING E3s.
Zoramon089 said:
Only because of bitterness and I refuse to admit it exists at this point because I'm too fucking stubborn. 3 FUCKING E3s.
StreetsAhead
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I could see that. Depends on how far along the game was before the shift and how much work it needs/they're willing to put in to port it to the U and make use of those 'gorgeous' HD graphics.guek said:
Tell me about it. As much as this is a speculation thread, the only things I hear are hyperboles based on pessimistic outlooks and everything else compared to what the competitors are dishing out.Javier said:
For God sakes, we aren't talking about the other systems in this thread. Only the Wii U. It's nice to have some facts, but I feel the thread has largely derailed, no thanks to juniors and people who just can't say anything worth of value, other than "my opinion on this new system on the whole is that it sucks".
bgassassin
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^ It'll settle down sfried. This was almost to be expected once the leaks about the console(s) came out.
The context of the discussion had you saying there was no reliable indication to say that the GPU wouldn't be something like a 4650 or whatever. I pointed that out to show that there is reliable indication to say it won't be a 4650 or whatever you're running with. lherre said months ago the GPU was causing the kit to freeze when they pushed it. He just reiterated that when I asked which kit version was underclocked.
BurntPork said:
The context of the discussion had you saying there was no reliable indication to say that the GPU wouldn't be something like a 4650 or whatever. I pointed that out to show that there is reliable indication to say it won't be a 4650 or whatever you're running with. lherre said months ago the GPU was causing the kit to freeze when they pushed it. He just reiterated that when I asked which kit version was underclocked.
Instro said:
That's right. Colin Bonstead at Vigil said that there were 3 main programmers working on getting it up and running for E3, and one of those came in half way through. But we have no idea on the number of people that are responsible for the full-fledged port.
I'm glad this was brought up, because I found the interview pretty interesting.
BlackNMild2k1
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BurntPork said:
If it does happen, don't think of it as a banning.
Think of it as unpaid vacation time.
ClovingSteam said:
You're the one to decide, eh? I've said it before, if anyone, especially burnbork and you, want to argue with me, use arguments, otherwise I can't take you serious.
Which of my arguments don't you agree with and tell me why. Are you able to do that? It's pretty easy to go "haha, lolol, look at this guy".
That stupid term "underpowered" is too often used by people, mostly fanboys, who let their favorite consoles compete in imaginary battles against each other, were the only deciding factor is "hardware power". In those battles it's the rule that the most powerful hardware wins, but that's not the reality.
The console market/the reality plays by different rules. The rules this time were that ppl wanted innovation and not overpriced hardware power. PS360 made a wrong choice by going for a 10 year lifespan, and I think we won't see such a plan ever again, so they didn't succeed in becoming the market leader.
Both of them were "overpowered" and too expenisve. The Wii had the right prize and wasn't "underpowered", in other words had just the right amount of power, and the perfect amount of innovation, that's why they got first.
Thunder Monkey
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Listen man, your heart is in the right place, but what you're saying could not be more wrong.Mlatador said:
Yes, MS and Sony overshot what the market viewed as value in the hardware arena. That does not stop the Wii from being hugely underpowered compared to its competition. The market doesn't decide what is overpowered or underpowered. Tech does.
ThatObviousUser
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artwalknoon said:
http://www.neogaf.com/forum/subscription.php?do=removesubscription&return=ucp&t=434824
It's also a link under thread title in the User CP.
No not this thread though I should for fear of losing my sanity. I'm trying to unsubscribe from some OT threads, I've wandered over there lately and now I don't ever want to go back. The amount of stupid is just too much for me.BurntPork said:It's because of me, isn't it?
Edit: Thanks Andrex!
-Pyromaniac-
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yeah but reggie doesn't give a shit so why should I nahmeanAndrex said:
Thunder Monkey said:
No, the cause does. If I have a pc only to surf the internet and there is a super high end graphics card in it, then it's overpowered for my cause.
Nintendos cause was to expand the gaming audience, be very profitable and ultimately become market leader.
PS360 cause was the same. They wanted to be very profitable and become market leader as well, though it didn't happen, since they choose the wrong strategy and made huge losses.
If the cause determines what is over or underpowered then the Wii is - as I said - NOT underpowered, ESPECIALLY because soo many people use that term to bash the Wii in the light of it's competitors, although the Wii did absolutely right.
As I also said, there is a diffence between being underpowerd or having less power than someting else.
The Wii has less power than PS360, but that doesn make it underpowered, especially since the cause of the 3 is the same - making good games that are fun, appeal to people, being profitable/becoming market leader - and the Wii won against both in this regard.
Thunder Monkey
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On a technical scale the Wii is undoubtedly underpowered. Whether the market felt the same or not doesn't really matter.
I guess we disagree then.
I guess we disagree then.
butter_stick
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Fill in the blank:
Xbox 360 and PS3 games commonly could not be ported to Wii because the system was ___________
Xbox 360 and PS3 games commonly could not be ported to Wii because the system was ___________
Mihael Mello Keehl
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:0butter_stick said:
TheExplodingHead
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Deguello said:
Meh, Zak & Wiki took it really seriously, just didn't get to sell enough to make any impression...
Jaded Alyx
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backpacking across Europe?butter_stick said:
ClovingWestbrook
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You mean...underpowered? *GASP*Shanadeus said:
cartman414
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If the Wii were in the same power bracket, there would be even more defunct developers/publishers today.
Thunder Monkey
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