Such a nonsense argument. Nobody forces you to get achievements. There is nobody with a gun to your head saying the only way to play a game is to 1000/1000 it. The reason people like system wide achievements is the same reason people like universal usernames and OS based messaging; it simplifies the process. Most people don't care about gamerscore anymore. What they care about is having an easy way to compare achievements with their friends, having a reason to do additional things in a game or having a way to publicly show they achieved something in a game. Are most achievements hard to get? Obviously not. Are they detrimental to the experience? Not unless you're incredibly whiney. Is there any reason NOT to have system wife achievements? No. It's just another aspect of modern gaming that Nintendo is allowing themselves to appear behind the curve.
PS, bold your post more, it doesn't make you seem arrogant one bit.
Replying to provocative posts like this normally isn't my thing. After doing this for over a dozen years, I've learned the fact that; no response is
sometimes the best response. The back and forth arguments doesn't really do it for me.
I was, however, going to reply to that very last line of yours(more on that later), so I may as well respond to the entire post.
You found my post to be a "nonsense argument," but you're relating that to me implying I'm being forced to do achievements. Rather, I was suggesting that the system itself is forced upon you, whether you like/want it or not. You are IN that system where your stats or gamer score is displayed and people compare their stats, hence, I said:
"forces stats upon gamers whether they intentionally participate or not."
That's what I meant by the term "force." I wish there was a leave-me-out-of-this-nonsense button, but there isn't. If that's not forced, I don't know what is.
You like the achievement system. I get that. Kudos to you! I think the system - despite making thing easier to compare -is largely built on trivial tasks, possible to cheat, and offers little to no reward. On top of that, I gave examples of why I think that, and examples of how much more engaging & rewarding games of what past were, having their own unique challenges.
For all the bolding you complained about, you still missed the main point. I'm not necessarily against "achievements" per say, but the system. I hate having to repeat myself, but it's all there man:
"I'm all for competition, stat comparing, and what's not but let's face it, the current achievement system is broken in many ways...There can be better ways to approach this...may breed more meaningful ways to challenge us, offer valuable rewards, and more ideal ways to acknowledge a gamer's skill."
It's cool if you're satisfied with the current system and those visions for something better don't appeal to you. You see the lack of system wide acheivements as Nintendo being behind to curve, while I see it as an opportunity to offer a more compelling alternative. I mentioned MiiVerse being an element. We'll have to wait and see.
And about that whole "arrogant" comment you made. If a person can draw that conclusion simply because I bold certain portions of my post in a forum, then that's their own problem, their own issues, and their own feelings. I can't control people emotions. I bold (quite often too) for those who usually just skim through the pages - especially those who've been following the thread - and may not want to
fully read pages upon pages of comments. We're all quilty of this from time to time. That way, they can at least pick out some key points even if they don't wish to read the entire post/page. I wish every one would do this, even at the risk of others calling them arrogant. What's arrogant in your eyes, is considerate in mine. Crazy world, I know! Anyway, if you were that worked up to mention it, and aren't able to keep your feelings in check, then you may as well do yourself a favor and put me on ignore, since you'll see a lot more of it, and will always be offended.
