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Wiimote/Motion Plus vs. PlayStation Move Comparison Thread
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GitarooMan
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please do, now sane people can ignore this and talk about the games in their respective threads.farnham said:
PataHikari
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Amir0x said:
And thus the thread loses any chance of being useful.
Mrbob said:Damn I need to get more invested in the motion control wars as I don't even know the drama.I'm out of the loop!
Drama is some people can't handle that the Move is technically superior to the Wiimote (which it should be, since it's out four years later), and some people like to brag that the Move is better than the Wiimote (even though it should be, since it's newer). It's like bragging that the Genesis has better graphics than the NES.
All the while, trying to get impressions on what really matters (pointing capabilities) is like pulling teeth.
goomba said:
Technically, the comparison is to Wii Motion+ now. Which released in 2009.
If you don't want to even try in this topic, move on. Seriously I shouldn't have to say that. This thread exists for the sole purpose of vacuuming out this comparison bullshit in the regular Move/Motion+ threads
chubigans said:
The Kinect technology is too different from Move/MotionPlus to even be in the same category.
I have played Metroid 3 and Conduit, both highly tuned and tweaked (very fast) to my liking, yet still none of them goes past MAG 1.04 Beta (released this weekend).
Conduit is a step below (hindered by bad fps). Wiimote+ pointing == Move Pointing
(though you notice even finer pointing with Move simply due to greatly increased pixel output of the system).
I don't think there's a single point where the performance of the WiiMote+ can outmatch the Move. Only one aspect where it is equal (pointer).
And then there is all the Move does extra like absolute positioning at pretty much any angle, augmented reality, voice input etc.
Both have a different way of delivering feedback (Move: RGB color spectrum, Wiimote+: speaker).
cakefoo said:
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
Weenerz said:
Can I lick your
glowing
weekend_warrior
Banned
Let the fight begin!
Stumpokapow
listen to the mad man
Amir0x said:
DKHustlin said:
Jax said:
Amir0x said:
farnham said:
Beardz said:
Right.
If you want to ask questions about functionality, reply. If you want to compare the two, reply. If you want to give technical information on either one, reply.
If you're just here to
- call the Wii a piece of shit
- point out that the Move launch games are underwhelming
- troll either if you haven't played with them
- counter-troll because you think trolling is going to go down
- post something like "<X> IS BETTER /thread end of discussion end of debate over"
- bitch about the thread's premise
- make ball jokes
Don't reply.
Eteric Rice
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This thread is not going to end well.
I've only used Wii-Motion + so far, so I can't tell you. Will try Move when I find a place that has a unit set up for use.
I've only used Wii-Motion + so far, so I can't tell you. Will try Move when I find a place that has a unit set up for use.
Combichristoffersen
Combovers don't work when there is no hair
NomarTyme said:
So the camera is used for recording home videos of glowing balls and wands being licked?
And yeah, Move is superior due to superior technology and lickable balls. I like balls.
WrenchNinja
Member
Nevermind, I'm just interested in seeing the discussion.RyanDG said:
with all due respect to the mods, this is like people arguing about pop music vs. indie music on merits like recording techniques, meaning, and other such aspects
people have already made up their minds going into this thread, and comparing technical aspects is silly without looking at games, publishers, ips available to each system, etc.
its gonna be a thread of opinions, nothing more nothign less
edit: just read mods edit ignore this my b
people have already made up their minds going into this thread, and comparing technical aspects is silly without looking at games, publishers, ips available to each system, etc.
its gonna be a thread of opinions, nothing more nothign less
edit: just read mods edit ignore this my b
I'll reply to Lonely1's post from the other thread here then 
This might work for distinguishing between rotation around the y axis and translation along the x axis, but not vice versa. With rotation around the x axis the distance to the lights doesn't change or doesn't reveal that it's a change in angle vs a translation. I think the former might still be tenuous though depending on the camera resolution and the positions that might be involved. Determining how much of a change in the sensor bar to attribute to motion on the x axis vs orientation changes could be quite difficult.
Distance can be done fairly robustly though. I think that's why you see that in that patent application.
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TBH though I think we've run over this ground many times in many ways already in various previous threads. There's little more to say than what's already been said tbh.
Lonely1 said:
This might work for distinguishing between rotation around the y axis and translation along the x axis, but not vice versa. With rotation around the x axis the distance to the lights doesn't change or doesn't reveal that it's a change in angle vs a translation. I think the former might still be tenuous though depending on the camera resolution and the positions that might be involved. Determining how much of a change in the sensor bar to attribute to motion on the x axis vs orientation changes could be quite difficult.
Distance can be done fairly robustly though. I think that's why you see that in that patent application.
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TBH though I think we've run over this ground many times in many ways already in various previous threads. There's little more to say than what's already been said tbh.
DKHustlin said:
it's...actually nothing like that at all.
It's like comparing two distinct sets of recording equipment on their various technical merits and feature sets.
READ WHAT STUMP JUST SAID. IF YOU HAVE NO INTENTION OF PARTICIPATING IN THIS THREAD, LEAVE NOW.
Bans will be handed out hereafter.
Well, frame-rate made TCon MP unplayable for me.Man said:
I have no doubt that for, relative big movements, Move is on par and perhaps even better than Vanilla wiimote, (since LoS doesn't affect it as nearly as much). But for fine movements, Move/WM on high sensitivity settings, I'm not so sure. The impressions I got from games like The Shoot, Re5 and Soccom 4 demos is that they were setup with (relative) low sensitivity and with pointer smoothing.
I NEED SCISSORS
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Stumpokapow said:
So basically this thread is pointless.
Lance Bone Path
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The move has to be farther from the ps3 eye than the wiimote has to be from the sensor bar. My current set-up makes the move a little bit troublesome since I sit close to a relatively small television.Lonely1 said:
The wii pointer gets a little dodgy around the edges of the screen at the point where the wiimote can barely see the sensor band. The move's pointer seems to handle pointing around the edges of the screen better.
There's some clever filtering going on in the move software with respect to the pointer. If you've ever pointed a laser pointer at a wall, you'll know about pointer jitter (which is present on the wii pointer).
Getting rid of this jitter without making the pointer feel less responsive takes some work. A while back I saw a different pointing technology that demonstrated similar anti-jitter properties and that company was extremely proud of that technology.