The downplaying is disheartening.
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WiiU - Undercooked and rushed to the market?
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The downplaying is disheartening.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
truth. a simple return of a mediocre system is the prefect remedy for what ails yet no one will do this. Instead they'll sit in their own stew of feces and anger just because.
Dusk Golem
A 21st Century Rockefeller
And I'll make my bet the next Sony and Microsoft consoles will launch with issues as well. Every console last generation did, they get fixed with time and updates. Just how things go, it's like people forgot about all the stuff from six years ago.
jts
...hate me...
The ironing is delicious.
NathanMcMahon
Banned
They need to be broken just enough so Disney swoops in and buys them up.
Even the N-Gage's launch was better than this piece of shit.
:lol
Fuck yes.
randomengine
Banned
Some of the best games I have ever played in my life were on the Saturn.
Undercooked and rushed to market? This is absolutely the case. Anyone who tries to argue otherwise is simply delusional. I am not saying the exclusives wont be fun and worth playing but the system is looking dated and flawed already on day one. Especially for core gamers.
Nintendo put themselves in this own tough situation with the huge success of Wii they are under immense pressure to deliver for shareholders so I understand why they went with another under-power gimmicky system to try and capture the large casual audience. they need something cheap to make and low priced to get as many sales as soon as possible. They are probably hoping the head start will help them against the competition too.
Problem is in a year or so from now this console wont be looking so flash.
Nintendo put themselves in this own tough situation with the huge success of Wii they are under immense pressure to deliver for shareholders so I understand why they went with another under-power gimmicky system to try and capture the large casual audience. they need something cheap to make and low priced to get as many sales as soon as possible. They are probably hoping the head start will help them against the competition too.
Problem is in a year or so from now this console wont be looking so flash.
It's not gonna do as well as Wii, certainly. I don't think we're looking at the next Dreamcast, but GameCube? Certainly.
Hazelhurst
Member
Nintendoland looked great though, as far as party games go. They had a blast playing a lot of the mini-games in it.
randomengine
Banned
No one can buy Nintendo, except another Japanese company. Period.
Yes, they'll both have issues. They'll also have hardware that's worth upgrading to.
Relaxed Muscle
Member
I think the OS was clearly not finished and the 1GB download shows it...
Leon S. Kennedy
Member
The patch took me 10 minutes max. Where is this 5 gb coming from? There is so much hyperbolic crap here its ridiculous.
Mr.Squirrel
Tom
Not to mention Ghost Recon locking my 360 up and the RROD surprise. I learned my lesson last gen. Never buy launch consoles. I'll jump in 2014 the earliest.
just the worst i've seen. so, since the game boy color.
TheGreatDivide
Banned
It's not exactly looking flash today
I think Iwata has shown he's only got a plan A, and when that doesn't work he's fucked. It's hard to see any way back for Nintendo.
Negative press? Mainstream press have and will fawn over it. Tech obsessed press will hate it to the point of absurdity. a Real review actually tried to say the Wii u is large and bulky
randomengine
Banned
All Nintendo needs to do is release good games. No indication that won't happen.
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hey, i'm looking forward to rayman, pikmin, bayonetta, and all that stuff, but they needed to make an impression, and they're making a really bad one.
Barack Lesnar
Banned
He probably meant a major launch, meaning Ninty, Sony, and Microsoft. Atari Jaguar had no chance
No, no one is forgetting.
However, the stuff that IS working shouldn't be worse than what's already out on systems that are almost 8 years old. That's pretty inexcusable no matter how one tries to twist it.
A year from now lol. How bout launch day. Course gaems are going to come that are awesome but from a tech/software perspective this would've been a subpar effort in 2005
Aquamarine
Member
The Wii U has a gimmick that sets it apart from other consoles (a tablet controller). That's its marketed selling point, like the 3DS has 3D, and the Wii has motion control.
That and the Wii brand is good enough to sell lots of consoles, especially with the whole iPad craze in full force.
Does your average consumer care that it has 43% slower RAM than the PS3 or 360? Hell no. I don't even care, and I've been playing games for decades.
future anihawk: if you're reading this, please let me know if we get to play beyond good & evil 2.
also, please let me know if we finish that time machine in five years.
hamauzu kaito
Member
TheGreatDivide
Banned
GameCube and N64 had games. Pretty good games. Some of the most critically acclaimed games of all time.
I would be utterly shocked if the next Playstation and Xbox is similar in power to the PS3 and 360 and an online system that's worse.
All joking aside, there are more discomforting issues than bad frame rates (okay, I'm lying, as a PC gamer, anything below 60 makes me nervous).
Whatever you thought about the Wii at its launch, you could tell there was a vision behind it, a vision that in my opinion eventually failed or was abandoned to a certain degree, but the console had this energy to it, despite being visibly underpowered, that kept flaring up through all its hard years.
With the Wii U ... sure, it has a new gimmick, one that's probably more interesting than a mere hardware (and ad space opportunities) upgrade, one that I find tremendously inspiring and appealing -- but it seems Nintendo themselves aren't particularly inspired. That's the killer.
It does have a selling point, but it has no vision.
Whatever you thought about the Wii at its launch, you could tell there was a vision behind it, a vision that in my opinion eventually failed or was abandoned to a certain degree, but the console had this energy to it, despite being visibly underpowered, that kept flaring up through all its hard years.
With the Wii U ... sure, it has a new gimmick, one that's probably more interesting than a mere hardware (and ad space opportunities) upgrade, one that I find tremendously inspiring and appealing -- but it seems Nintendo themselves aren't particularly inspired. That's the killer.
It does have a selling point, but it has no vision.
jts
...hate me...
So has this one. Coming from the Wii, this hardware will go a long way to improve the already superlative exclusive Nintendo games.
Lol, really a messy launch and there is suddenly no way back? This is a case of Nintendo rushing as much as it is a case of shoddy ports due to different hardware...I'm sure things will iron out just fine, and Everyone is looking to flaws in the ports, and not the greatness of N-land and original titles like Nano assault that run like a dream...things can be patched, developers if they give a shit can wrap their heads around the system and we can all laugh when nextbox/ps4 undoubtedly launch perfectly...
randomengine
Banned
Keep in mind that PS2 has sold more systems than Xbox 360 and PS3 COMBINED. All gaming companies have work to do to attract the mainstream who have wandered off into smartphone and ipad land.
Skel1ingt0n
I can't *believe* these lazy developers keep making file sizes so damn large. Btw, how does technology work?
Yep.
Put me down for:
-Slow start, but still steady sales through the holidays
-Rough few months post Christmas, but great lineup shown at E3
-Price cut and a bunch of games (ala 3DS) ignite sales this time next year
-Nextbox and PS4 are successful, too, but their launches are just as botched
-WiiU ends up being a success - not Wii levels - but still a massive money maker for Nintendo
Do you think the next PlayStation and Xbox will have a hard time matching the functionality of the PS3 and Xbox 360 at launch, despite the fact that those systems are old as shit? Because that's how the Wii U is right now. It's not a compelling device compared to those due to these basic issues that no, Sony and Microsoft will not have that problem with their next systems.
The PlayStation Vita is well-made and powerful hardware with a solid OS. It's just not relevant or attractive to people because they game on smart phones now when they want to play a portable game. I'd never buy one but it fills me with confidence that the PS4 will be a well-built system with a solid OS that improves on Sony well-made online and accounts infrastructure.
I certainly don't expect a consumer to magically become an admin for PlayStation Home on day one like what happened with Miiverse.
A nice portion of mainstream press are echoing what their in-house tech guys and the gaming/tech press is telling them, which is that the system's OK at best thus far, will be outclassed tech-wise in six months, and isn't something you're average CoD-obsessed teenager wants anyway.
Or, as I like to call it: the truth.
randomengine
Banned
Why were they failures? Because they sold last of the big 3? Because they did worse than the previous gen?
PS2 outsold PS3 and 360 combined. Does that make either system a failure? nope.
Sales momentum is with PS3, which will surpass the 360 by the end of this generation. Which means 360 is going to be last of the 3. Does that make it a failure? nope.
enoirmeplz
Member
If I wasn't getting this thing for free....
I think it'll get better but honestly, until they announce Animal Crossings WiiU it'll probably sit in the box.
I think it'll get better but honestly, until they announce Animal Crossings WiiU it'll probably sit in the box.
randomengine
Banned
They are too busy with with their smartphones and their apple tablets. Game systems are no longer the bleeding edge of tech. I don't think they will be in the future either. That era is over.
Vermillion
Banned
The alliteration is amazing.
If you ask me, I think that Wii U's launch have way more of an ambition feeling than the Wii.
Except Wii Sport and Twilight Princess that came out one month before the GC's release, games came out really slowly in the beginning.
TheGreatDivide
Banned
I just think the thing is conceptually not very exciting. I'm certainly feeling nothing like the buzz Wii had on release. And without the appeal of a strong gimmick you're just relying on NSMB to sell a console single handedly. 3DS has shown that in the west at least it may not be so simple.
Like the hat?
Banned
To me, the most important thing is the console is going to have some fun games.
I had forgotten about that. Good point.
Random "people", yes. Gamers, no.
makingmusic476
Member
Yeah, I'm not sure how I feel at the moment.
The menu is unintuitive, and each section takes a bit too long to load. YouTube, etc. don't work, and I can't seem to find any way to completely remove the apps I never plan to use, like Amazon and Hulu.
Wii integration seems really half-assed, too, and could they not include GameCube support with the system interpreting a Pro controller as a GC controller? I'm sure we'll see GC games on the store at some point, after all.
Further, I'm realizing how much time I'll be spending looking at the Wii U controller. Finally an HD Nintendo console, and I spend most of my time using the console like I'm using a DS. I wanna look at my TV!
Really, control schemes in general are an issue. Use the gamepad. No, Wiimotes. No, pro controller. And on the gamepad, the shoulder buttons, face buttons, and joystick seem too spread out, making it somewhat cumbersome to use even with my huge hands. Then there's the fact that the Wiimotes still require AAs. I hope we see some with built-in rechargeable batteries at some point.
NSMBU is great, though, and now I'll just wait for Zelda news and hopefully HD remakes of SMS, WW, and TP.
There are just so many little changes that could dramatically improve the system.
The menu is unintuitive, and each section takes a bit too long to load. YouTube, etc. don't work, and I can't seem to find any way to completely remove the apps I never plan to use, like Amazon and Hulu.
Wii integration seems really half-assed, too, and could they not include GameCube support with the system interpreting a Pro controller as a GC controller? I'm sure we'll see GC games on the store at some point, after all.
Further, I'm realizing how much time I'll be spending looking at the Wii U controller. Finally an HD Nintendo console, and I spend most of my time using the console like I'm using a DS. I wanna look at my TV!
Really, control schemes in general are an issue. Use the gamepad. No, Wiimotes. No, pro controller. And on the gamepad, the shoulder buttons, face buttons, and joystick seem too spread out, making it somewhat cumbersome to use even with my huge hands. Then there's the fact that the Wiimotes still require AAs. I hope we see some with built-in rechargeable batteries at some point.
NSMBU is great, though, and now I'll just wait for Zelda news and hopefully HD remakes of SMS, WW, and TP.
There are just so many little changes that could dramatically improve the system.