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[Umbasaborne]

Speaking strictly about 1st party, This definitely feels like a slower year for PlayStation. We’ve grown pretty acustom to getting multiple first party games from them a year, but 2023 feels like the year they are feeling the effects of covid the hardest.

Their only non mlb first party game this year is spiderman, I think sony also considered burning shores to be a major release for them, but that was dlc. Compared to last year when we had gran turismo, horizon, the last of us part 1, and god of war ragnarok. Even though some of those games were delayed into 2022, In 2021 we still got rereleases of ghosts of Tsushima and Death Stranding, along with returnal and ratchet & clank. 2020 saw the last of us 2, ghosts of Tsushima, spider-man miles morales, and the demons souls remake.

Was the last of us factions intended to be the other 2023 game before that got upended? Just feels like a weirdly slow year for them. Thankfully not as slow as Microsoft was in 2022 when they had absolutely nothing except pentiment .

Fingers crossed that this year was a flub due to covid, and by next year they will be back to their regular release cadence of 2-4 first party games a year

 

[The Cockatrice]

When October ends my PS5 exclusives played this year are 2 games. That is it. Amazing output. Safe to say, it'll suck next year as well. As a high-end PC gamer owner, I regret myPS5 purchase. I think 10 games is the total of games played on it in the last 3? years and most were upgraded ps4 versions. Xbox is in the same boat. Why even buy a console these days when game devs are pushing for raytracing and tech that consoles cant even handle. Well considering the recent PC ports, I guess nothing handles them. Seems we just got used to crumbs of good shit.

 

[Punished Miku]

2024: Death Stranding 2, Marathon, Concord, Rise of the Ronin, Stellar Blade
2025: Wolverine, Fairgame$, Twisted Metal, Ghost of Tsushima 2
2026: SSM new IP, TLoU 3

Just guessing. They probably have a lot of stuff in the works we haven't heard of.

 

[mrmustard]

Who cares about one weaker year? Spider-Man is such a big ip, it almost counts for 2 games and can have Nintendo level attache Rates this year.

 

[vivftp]

Yes, the pandemic delays are a factor.

In addition to Spider-Man2, 2023 also saw/will see Sony release:

Destiny 2 Lightfall
Horizon Call of the Mountain
Helldivers 2
Firewall Ultra
MLB23 (as you noted)

They're also publishing Stellar Blade, assuming it's still releasing this year.

 

[DryvBy]

Isn't their a rumor next month is another Showcase?

 

[lh032]

I just want new IP that is not GaaS.....

 

[DonkeyPunchJr]

When October ends my PS5 exclusives played this year are 2 games. That is it. Amazing output. Safe to say, it'll suck next year as well. As a high-end PC gamer owner, I regret myPS5 purchase. I think 10 games is the total of games played on it in the last 3? years and most were upgraded ps4 versions. Xbox is in the same boat. Why even buy a console these days when game devs are pushing for raytracing and tech that consoles cant even handle. Well considering the recent PC ports, I guess nothing handles them. Seems we just got used to crumbs of good shit.

the best reason to buy a PS5 is because you don’t have a high-end PC. But yeah if you do have a decent PC then this console generation can feel pretty superfluous.

I got a PS5 in 2021 and barely ever use it. I’m not super interested in Sony first party except for Gran Turismo 7 which is awesome. Only reason I held on to PS5 this long is to play Final Fantasy XVI at launch, but after seeing how it turned out I would’ve rather waited for the PC version. I might just sell it when I finish FF XVI.

 

[Killer8]

Too much of their first-party is clouded in secrecy to know.

Team Asobi's game is surely far along (4 years after the release of Astro's Playroom next year). Wouldn't be surprised to see something new from Hoursemarque soon. Media Molecule's next game could pop up whenever.

I hope the games that aren't known about are good because the live service games they showed off are vague at best and look putrid at their worst.

 

[ZehDon]

According to Jim Ryan, two releases is the intended norm moving forward. Note, this just means exclusives, not necessarily Sony titles - so this year, it was Final Fantasy XVI and Spider-man 2. If we get more than that, terrific - but given their USD$220m price tags, I don't think Sony will in a hurry to drop lots of first party titles in one year. They want to give them big marketing pushes and room to make back that money.

 

[Mr Hyde]

I want to see what Bluepoint is working on. That's the only thing of interest right now, coming from Sony. Seems like there will be a couple of dark years ahead with the extreme GaaS focus. Maybe Naughty Dog can crank out something fresh next year, but the studio seems to be in shambles with no clear direction.

 

[BennyBlanco]

I think the only thing I have turned on my ps5 for this year is the FFXVI demo. Patiently waiting for DS2 and the next Sucker Punch game.

 

[Punished Miku]

I think the only thing I have turned on my ps5 for this year is the FFXVI demo. Patiently waiting for DS2 and the next Sucker Punch game.

For me it was FFXVI demo and Humanity, and that's it.

 

[GHound]

Drought is what you get when you have no smaller budget, shorter dev cycle games to fill the gaps between the $200M+ games that take half a console gen and hundreds of developers to get out the door.

 

[touchfuzzy]

If Sony didn’t own Sucker Punch I’d probably just sell the thing at this point. But I’m gonna need Ghost of Tsushima 2 or whatever is next from them whenever it happens, and it won’t be worth spending $600 to get another one, so might as well just hold on to it and hope for more.

 

[Topher]

Honestly, this is the least I've been excited for Sony's first party output in years. Spider-man 2 will be great......and then what? No idea what Sucker Punk has up. Naughty Dog as well. What has Corey Barlog been doing? Don't know anything about Wolverine. Guerrilla isn't having anything anytime soon.

Where are you, Sony?

 

[vivftp]

According to Jim Ryan, two releases is the intended norm moving forward. Note, this just means exclusives, not necessarily Sony titles - so this year, it was Final Fantasy XVI and Spider-man 2. If we get more than that, terrific - but given their USD$220m price tags, I don't think Sony will in a hurry to drop lots of first party titles in one year. They want to give them big marketing pushes and room to make back that money.

2 or more major titles is the stated goal, and they're talking about first party, not exclusive deals. This year those two would be Destiny 2 Lightfall and Spider-Man 2.

For all we know the reality could be 3 to 4 going forward, but Jim was speaking to investors and we are in a year where they had 2, so no matter what they would have to give 2 as the minimum figure.

 

[Umbasaborne]

Honestly, this is the least I've been excited for Sony's first party output in years. Spider-man 2 will be great......and then what? No idea what Sucker Punk has up. Naughty Dog as well. What has Corey Barlog been doing? Don't know anything about Wolverine. Guerrilla isn't having anything anytime soon.

Where are you, Sony?

My biggest let down with sony is the amount of ip they just up and abandoned. Infamous and killzone hurt particularly bad

 

[Robb]

Hopefully, they should have a lot of cool stuff cooking. I’m just worried a lot of it will be GAAS/uninteresting..

 

[fart town usa]

You forgot Horizon: Call of the Mountain and Humanity



in all seriousness though, COTM is pretty damn cool but expensive to experience.

 

[SmokedMeat]

Games take many years to make. Slow periods are guaranteed to happen after Sony’s studios released a flurry of titles.

The current focus is on getting GaaS titles out, so maybe a couple years after those hit would be realistic.

 

[Topher]

My biggest let down with sony is the amount of up they just up and abanoned. Infamous and killzone hurt particularly bad

Yeah, and it's a travesty that what is left of those IPs are, for the most part, dying on the PS3 vine. What I would give for an Infamous 1 and 2 remaster.

Hopefully, they should have a lot of cool stuff cooking. I’m just worried a lot if it will be GAAS/uninteresting..

My fear as well.

 

[Rawbutt Jellybean]

It's a little concerning with getting all these GAAS games out being their primary focus now.

Would love to be surprised. Either a new IP or a revival of a dormant one.

 

[Ar¢tos]

If Sony didn’t own Sucker Punch I’d probably just sell the thing at this point. But I’m gonna need Ghost of Tsushima 2 or whatever is next from them whenever it happens, and it won’t be worth spending $600 to get another one, so might as well just hold on to it and hope for more.

With the path their 1st games are taking of ultra emotional slow story first and gameplay second, I have very little hopes for GoT2.

 

[mrmustard]

My biggest let down with sony is the amount of ip they just up and abandoned. Infamous and killzone hurt particularly bad

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Just find a nice GAAS and settle down with it for a year or five. You people burn through games like it's going out of style. My God, it's not healthy.

 

[Mr Reasonable]

They probably have a lot of stuff in the works we haven't heard of.

Yeah, they never announce games years in advance.

 

[MatrixReloaded101]

When October ends my PS5 exclusives played this year are 2 games. That is it. Amazing output. Safe to say, it'll suck next year as well. As a high-end PC gamer owner, I regret myPS5 purchase. I think 10 games is the total of games played on it in the last 3? years and most were upgraded ps4 versions

The game release output for next gen has been terrible and people are still begging to drop another $500+ on PS5 pro lol.

 

[Flabagast]

I sure hope so. Besides FF16 which is a stellar game, the exclusive output on PS5 has been really barebones imho

 

[Topher]

Just find a nice GAAS

 

[JaksGhost]

Same thread, different day.

 

[Rawbutt Jellybean]

I sure hope so. Besides FF16 which is a stellar game, the exclusive output on PS5 has been really barebones imho

R&C, Returnal, GOW, HZD, GT, and FF16 is a pretty solid exclusive lineup for not even 3 years in and not counting remakes/remasters. Definitely a stronger start than PS3 or PS4 had.

 

[Northeastmonk]

I’ve had an excellent time with my PS5. Judging by this, Spider-Man 2 should be a huge disappointment because Assassin’s Creed, AC6, a new CoD, BG3, and various other games are better elsewhere? There will be a lot to choose from on Black Friday. I can’t imagine every PS owner owns the same games month after month. Imagine competing with the market too.

It’s like going through your library of PS games and tossing everything in the trash while at the same time saying “what’s next?, what’s next?”.

 

[Clear]

Games take many years to make. Slow periods are guaranteed to happen after Sony’s studios released a flurry of titles.

This. People need to wrap their heads around the idea that a 3 year turnaround is now end, and can easily stretch past 5 years on the biggest and most complex titles.

The current focus is on getting GaaS titles out, so maybe a couple years after those hit would be realistic.

All the GaaS stuff is either coming from new acquisitions or from studios who have prior experience in the field. The one outlier is ND with TLOU factions, and that's mitigated by ongoing work on the remasters plus whatever their next major project is going to be. Its an addition to, not a replacement for, their core output.

The premise of GaaS also is long-term income, so launch timing is less crucial than one of their major single-player offerings where they absolutely need a strong start because launch window is where the majority of the investment is recouped.

Sony's playbook isn't hard to read.

 

[Spaceman292]

Games take 5 years to make

 

[SmokedMeat]

Just find a nice GAAS and settle down with it for a year or five. You people burn through games like it's going out of style. My God, it's not healthy.

Better yet discover some amazing indies.

 

[Gamer_By_Proxy]

I think they plan to do a mix of first and third party exclusives so they never have a down year.
Seems kinda knit-picky to me to just focus on technicalities like it must be a first party release.

 

[vivftp]

I think perspective is always a nice thing to have, so I'll paste this post I had made a while back. The list comes from the known/rumored games outlined in the Era PS OT. I hope it'll give you a better idea of what SIE are working on both from first party an XDEV partners:


Orange is confirmed
Blue is rumored/speculated

- TLOU Online - Naughty Dog
- Neil Druckmanns new game - Naughty Dog
- TLOU Part 2 remaster/remake/DC - Naughty Dog
- TLOU Part 3 - Naughty Dog
- New Uncharted game - Naughty Dog possibly in collab with someone else like VASG
- Cory Barlogs new game - Santa Monica Studio
- Ghost of Tsushima sequel - Sucker Punch
- New IP - Bend Studios
- MLB 24 - San Diego Studios
- Spider-Man 2 - Insomniac
- Wolverine - Insomniac
- Multiplayer title - Insomniac
- Project with original content - Bluepoint
- Fairgame$ - Haven
- Concord - Firewalk
- Horizon MP game - Guerrilla
- Horizon Zero Dawn Remaster - Guerrilla
- New Project - Media Molecule
- Live Service Title - London Studios
- New IP - Housemarque
- Twisted Metal - Firesprite
- Dark Narrative Adventure - Firesprite
- 3D Action Game - Asobi
- Destiny 2: The Final Shape - Bungie
- Marathon - Bungie
- New IP - Bungie
- DS2 - KojiPro
- Firewall Ultra - First Contact
- Helldivers 2 - Arrowhead
- Rise of the Ronin - Team Ninja
- Stellar Blade - Shift Up
- KOTOR - Saber
- Lost Soul Aside - Ultizero
- Convallaria - Loong Force


So that's 34 games from the OP, 25 confirmed and 9 rumored. From that confirmed list, 16 titles have had teasers/trailers/images officially shown.

Now the above doesn't include other speculated or rumored projects like games from:

- Ember Lab
- Ballastic Moon
- From Software
- Sumo Digital
- A new game from Savage Game Studios
- Strategy game from Valkyrie
- Project Ooze

So that's a potential list of 41 projects underway from SIE's first party and XDEV. In reality the list could be even larger, but that's at least something for us to start with. For example it's very likely that work is underway on the next God of War game and the next mainline Horizon game, but they're not on the list for now. We also don't know if the Horizon MMORPG that NCSoft are working on is the same as the Horizon MP game that Guerrilla are working on or if it's a separate game entirely.

If we add in third party exclusive titles (timed or otherwise) then we can further include:

FF7 Rebirth
Foamstars
Silent Hill 2 Remake

 

[fart town usa]

Just find a nice GAAS and settle down with it for a year or five. You people burn through games like it's going out of style. My God, it's not healthy.

I'm shocked that so many people have seemingly sold off their old consoles . So many good games to play, my backlog is neverending and there's still some fantastic games in the PS3 store that aren't available in the PS4/5 store.

I honestly can't even fathom sitting around and waiting for only current gen games, I'd probably stop gaming entirely.

 

[tommycronin]

Don't worry they'll have more sequels to churn out. The only good and new ip game they've released this gen is Returnal.

 

[Bojji]

Just find a nice GAAS

 

[Banjo64]

According to Jim Ryan, two releases is the intended norm moving forward. Note, this just means exclusives, not necessarily Sony titles

That is one absolutely depressing statement.

Agree with the sentiment someone else expressed, it’s completely pointless owning a PS5 or Xbox now.

 

[JohnnyFootball]

That is one absolutely depressing statement.

Agree with the sentiment someone else expressed, it’s completely pointless owning a PS5 or Xbox now.

A depressing statement? 2 big exclusives each year is pretty much the norm. Some years you would get 3…

I don’t understand how people can have expectations beyond that. What world do y’all live in?

Imagine being Xbox exclusive. They’d kill for Sonys output.

 

[KungFucius]

When October ends my PS5 exclusives played this year are 2 games. That is it. Amazing output. Safe to say, it'll suck next year as well. As a high-end PC gamer owner, I regret myPS5 purchase. I think 10 games is the total of games played on it in the last 3? years and most were upgraded ps4 versions. Xbox is in the same boat. Why even buy a console these days when game devs are pushing for raytracing and tech that consoles cant even handle. Well considering the recent PC ports, I guess nothing handles them. Seems we just got used to crumbs of good shit.

Same here though because Blizzard is a piece of shit developer and wouldn't put co-op on PC, I bought Diablo on PS5 so I could play with my son. The PS5 is basically me spending over 600 bucks on hardware to play a few games 18 months earlier at a lower quality.

 

[Badlucktroll]

I for one would welcome the return of Konami to the mainstream with PS5 exclusives.

 

[trent_the_gent]

Nintendo is the only platform holder with a decent rate of output at this stage.

Sonys seem to take 5 years between games and the studios MS bought seem to mostly be making prerendered cutscenes or vapourware in between collosal flops.

 

[SlimySnake]

Fingers crossed that this year was a flub due to covid, and by next year they will be back to their regular release cadence of 2-4 first party games a year

Unlikely. They said Wolverine is a 2024 game but lets face it, it is getting delayed. The fact that we didnt see anything from it and DS2 is a big giant red flag.

What you will see next year are games that were revealed this year. And that means all GaaS trash.

Their Single player AAA studios will likely take next year off and come back with a vengeance in 2025. I posted this in another thread.

Here is their potential 2025-2027 lineup not including any GaaS trash.

2025
Death Stranding 2
Wolverine
Bluepoint's next remake
Astrobot 2

2026
Ghost of Tsushima 2
The Last of Us 3
Sony Bend's new IP
Media molecule's new IP

2027
Horizon 3
Housemarque new IP
Cory Barlog's new IP
Gran Turismo 8

Best case scenario, you move up all games a year and 2024 is a fairly decent one, but lets face it, and it will be the worst case scenario and you're looking at a one year delay for each of these games. If it took SSM, GG an PD 5 years to make last gen games, it will likely take them 6 years to make next gen only games.

 

[Foxt3r]

I miss the old Sony, when they were willing to take risks. Now their output consist of variations of the same "open world with shitty writing" game. And in the future more of the same + gaas. Great, just great...

 

[Roxkis_ii]

The beauty of having a backlog is I'm never starved for content. Maybe some of you should pick up a second hobby?

 

[ChorizoPicozo]

The beauty of having a backlog is I'm never starved for content. Maybe some of you should pick up a second hobby?

NeoGaf is the second hobby.