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Will Xbox One gamers be shuned frrom this community?
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Fanboys for what? Consumer's rights? Everyone should be fans of that since everyone is a consumer.
PixyJunket
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#OccupyXbox.
They sure are. And everyone is allowed to loudly and aggressively point out that them buying it is fucking everyone else in the industry.
I'll shun the companies involved in this bullshit but I can't fault gamers for wanting to play games even on a format I don't like. And by don't like I don't mean "it's not mah system so screw you" I mean in the desperate search for that last dollar they're willing to xbone the entire hobby I've enjoyed for over 30 years.
Rebel Leader
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They probably would..
I just hope it's like today's online pass (they only need to register if they want to play multiplayer online)
Sho_Nuff82
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Wii U owners have survived this long, I doubt anything can be worse than the last few months of vitriol.
NullPointer
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Yeah? Well I better not see you crying "woe is me" on GAF when your internet connection is down.
So there.
i can see the first party of sony not doing this but EA ? its a no brainer.
i hope they dont and sony realises that its a mistake.
I was gonna say give it a week or so..but honestly I'm not so sure how long this is gonna last. It would be neat if we could get a sub-forum for all that the Wii U is doomed, port Skyrim to the Vita and MS is gonna eat your children crap. I mean in some way it's very entertaining (for a neutral observer like myself) but on the other hand we basically have the same 4 threads over and over again the last few weeks.
Willy Wanka
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Probably by some but it will still have it's fans. Just look at the PSP Go.
Hmm? I never implied otherwise. I am in no way in agreement with what MS is doing.
I'm sure it is possible to be pissed at Sony as well if they go down that path. It's just hard to take some posters seriously when you look at the shit they were posting prior to X1's reveal, and their posts read almost like PR releases for the company they like. Shit in threads about their company's competitors and then want to play like they are "true hardcore" gamers railing against the evil empire when this shit comes about, i cannot help but to roll my eyes when i see them posting about "corporate apologists".
For example:
Here is someone who should most definitely not be accusing anyone of "blind fanboyism" considering the posts i've seen from him/her. Seriously you just overloaded the "Full O' Shit" meter with that one.
So yeah shit like that is definitely part of the communication problem.
4G on his or her phone? =)
Sony would have to require always online (or an online check-in period) as a fundamental part of their console strategy in order to do this, and I was thinking they had already ruled that out. (could be wrong.)
Publishers could implement something like online passes, and some may, but that is a different situation-not nearly as offensive IMO. In order to execute full-on DRM publishers will need the full cooperation of Sony with an online check-in period and retailer integration, and the whole nine yards. If Sony themselves aren't doing this with their own games, I can't see why they would help support it.
But we'll see.
edit// But if it did happen, would most of the community decide to go full-on Wii U? Or PC? Steam is obviously problematic as well, but has benefits that make it less offensive.
Or would we collectively decide to just bend over and take it?
Arc Christelle
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You know... let's just shun everybody while we're at it. Fuck everybody. No matter what you play. Just fuck you for playin it.
Xbox One? Eat a dick.
PS4? Eat a dick.
Wii U? We cool, but eat a dick.
PC? Eat two dicks.
Mobile? Eat an angry dick.
We're going back to the dark ages, and burning every, witch, blasphemer, whatever. If it threatens whatever, we shunning it like overly conservative Christians at a science convention.
EDIT: Just to be clear. No. Even when they're supporting bullshit... no. They're people too. Doesn't mean we can't talk shit about them though.
Xbox One? Eat a dick.
PS4? Eat a dick.
Wii U? We cool, but eat a dick.
PC? Eat two dicks.
Mobile? Eat an angry dick.
We're going back to the dark ages, and burning every, witch, blasphemer, whatever. If it threatens whatever, we shunning it like overly conservative Christians at a science convention.
EDIT: Just to be clear. No. Even when they're supporting bullshit... no. They're people too. Doesn't mean we can't talk shit about them though.
Captain Tuttle
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This is really an amazing response to that post. Just perfect and it made me laugh out loud.
I'm kind in the same mind as BillyBats regarding the DRM and always online stuff. The used game thing bothers me a bit but it's not a deal breaker. I'm mostly concerned with the difference in power between the two console and since Sony's first party games do very little for me I'm strongly considering PC next gen.
NullPointer
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c'mon now m0dus ;P Gimme a lil credit ere.
ITS A JOKE PEOPLE!
A short story with a humorous climax? See, its funny because I took your expectations and I twisted--- never mind.
*kicks magazine rack*
Sorry, I wasn't intending for you to think the barb was specifically aimed at you. I'm just so annoyed right now every post of mine is coming across prickly lol
I just mean, I agree with that they're entitled to buy what they want, as long as everyone also agrees we're entitled to aggressively debate them about how they're destroying the industry
weekend_warrior
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Neogaf is still registered under GoDaddy. That seems ironic.
Why would you ruin a good joke?
yes.
the idea that this attitude is even being considered is ridiculous.
people really need to be held to a higher standard.
please don't hold back with that.
Forceatowulf
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I can't believe people are still on that "GAF just loves Sony!" bullshit. Does GAF give Sony less shit now a days, yes. But ask yourself "why". It's because Sony has garnered goodwill with gamers over the past few years, while the other companies have done the exact opposite.
You think this board was all sunshine and rainbows for Sony early on in this gen? Or hell, midway into his gen? I can tell you as a poster who has been here since 2006 that it has not been. GAF has absolutely taken a SHIT on Sony early on and midway into this gen. An epic fucking dump of epic fucking proportions. It is only in recent years that this site has become a lot less hostile towards that company.
Let me break it down for some of you:
When company X is doing stupid shit GAF shits on them a lot. When company X is doing good shit GAF doesn't shit on them so much.
This is not motherfucking rocket science...
You think this board was all sunshine and rainbows for Sony early on in this gen? Or hell, midway into his gen? I can tell you as a poster who has been here since 2006 that it has not been. GAF has absolutely taken a SHIT on Sony early on and midway into this gen. An epic fucking dump of epic fucking proportions. It is only in recent years that this site has become a lot less hostile towards that company.
Let me break it down for some of you:
When company X is doing stupid shit GAF shits on them a lot. When company X is doing good shit GAF doesn't shit on them so much.
This is not motherfucking rocket science...
How do you moderate shunning? You, sir, have not responded to an Xboner's post in 72 hours and have been determined to be in violation of not having an open discussion. The penalty for petty avoidance is permabanning.
Seriously though. The future of gaming is at stake here. There can be no open discussion if we are not allow to publicly (and politely) criticize and condemn those who's actions we believe to run counter to the well being of our hobby. My concern is that in an effort to protect Xboners from persecution, the result will be legitimizing and potentially favoring their actions at the cost of having a real open discussion.
I'm okay with banning people who are rude or cruel, but I think we need to reserve the right to vehemently disagree with Xbone owners on moral grounds without worrying about a cooling effect hushing what I see to be a very important discussion on the future of the game industry.
Yes but deep down they'll know every views them as trash. It's like the whole PC Master Race vs Console Peasant Race thing. Now there's something even lower than console peasant race: Xbox One Consumers.
Everyone else will grow to love each other by having a common enemy to hate!
The whole premise is bizarre. There are individual people on this site, not one guy who is the whole community. It'd take a lot of PMs to organize a community wide shunning.
flyinpiranha
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I'm not reaching. I'm just seeing it has nothing to do with the moral side of things, because you still use the product. It's the same for people that would buy the XB1. They don't think it intrudes on their 'rights' enough to warrant a boycott.
Nice contribution.
Haha!
Rebel Leader
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I think we are ready are
One can discuss the moral/economical implications of Microsoft policies and have a normal discussion of Xbox one games or whatever else concerning the console.
"Shunning" goes under rude or cruel in my book, especially if you do it in every thread.
If my internet goes out, I don't really play games anyway. I'm almost always on XBL. I like my MP games.
I definitely believe 'shunning' is the wrong word to use. But push back, yes. Xbox fanboys need to get severe pushback at every turn. Not because they're fanboys, but because by supporting the Xbox One they are actively fucking everyone else in the industry. And I think, finally, this is actually something that is objectively wrong and needs real genuine anger.
Perfectly said. I buy games on XBLA, PSN, and Steam regularly. I have been put in a position where I could not play a game through Steam, but could do so easily using my 360. Plenty of people were fine paying for Live for the entire generation. It's about providing a service that consumers enjoy enough to pay.
You can try to put distance between the fanboys and the company, but in this case they're intrinsically linked. A fan buying an Xbox because they are "fans of certain franchises" fucks every single other person in this industry, period. And they need to be called out for such abject selfishness and they need to get that push back to tell them that, no, in this case it's not merely enough to hide behind being a fanboy of Halo as reason you're giving everyone else in the community the middle finger.
That doesn't mean they deserve to be insulted or told they don't belong here, but I absolutely do think it means that aggressive push back of fans AND the company are required, because they are both actively contributing to the destruction of the industry here.
Obviously you guys will ultimately decide what is the line and what is too far, and I suspect you'll settle on a fair tone, but there's no doubt that fanboys of Xbox One DO deserve some real harsh push back. I don't see any other opinion being right on this matter.
m0dus said:
Anyone who said they purchased horse armor WAS made fun of back in the day though? There was huge push back on the subject. Not really sure how this is different except in scale
You made me laugh, if it makes you feel any better.
NullPointer
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I kinda do.
Wow you are so anti consumer. Don't you care about the future of this industry!? It's not about games, it's about policies.
Am I? Have you read these posts?
i would buy one to piss off amir0x
Cutting off your nose to spite your face would only make me laugh instead lol
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