brotkasten
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The fragmentation induced tears in this thread will be so amazing.
Coco, it's called diversity and you know it.
The fragmentation induced tears in this thread will be so amazing.
What are the new OS features that have been leaked for Apollo?
So about that new iPad. Hitting those hardware features, all of the check boxes, and that $500 price point still makes me wonder just wtf the competition can do to compete.
I fail to see how MS is going to make a dent in this market unless people really take to the whole W8 Metro thing. I bring this up because MS keeps on thinking W8 desktops/laptops as well as Win8 tablets will push people to also want W8 phones. I'm not sure if I'm seeing it, but maybe that's just me.
Also makes me wonder wtf Apple is going to do when Win 8 hits with regards to iTunes on Windows. Would they even bother making a metro app? Would that also work on the arm version? LOL
At any rate if I'm an Android tablet maker IDK wtf I'd do to really get a foothold into the market now other than trying to go the Kindle Fire route.
Any worries about a big Steve Jobs not being their drop off seemed to be answered today as well. Tim Cook and CO seemed to bring it and then some today. Bodes well for the iPhone 5 presser if it's like this iPad presser. It behooves MS to try and get out in front of the next Apple announcement IMO, but I'm not sure if they can with their current timeline sadly.
So about that new iPad. Hitting those hardware features, all of the check boxes, and that $500 price point still makes me wonder just wtf the competition can do to compete.
I actually see the iPad3 as a big chance for people to catch up. The screen is big impressive and expensive tech but it doesn't really do much. Design is more important than specs and like someone said above the iOS design is getting long in the tooth.So about that new iPad. Hitting those hardware features, all of the check boxes, and that $500 price point still makes me wonder just wtf the competition can do to compete.
I fail to see how MS is going to make a dent in this market unless people really take to the whole W8 Metro thing. I bring this up because MS keeps on thinking W8 desktops/laptops as well as Win8 tablets will push people to also want W8 phones. I'm not sure if I'm seeing it, but maybe that's just me.
Also makes me wonder wtf Apple is going to do when Win 8 hits with regards to iTunes on Windows. Would they even bother making a metro app? Would that also work on the arm version? LOL
At any rate if I'm an Android tablet maker IDK wtf I'd do to really get a foothold into the market now other than trying to go the Kindle Fire route.
Any worries about a big Steve Jobs not being their drop off seemed to be answered today as well. Tim Cook and CO seemed to bring it and then some today. Bodes well for the iPhone 5 presser if it's like this iPad presser. It behooves MS to try and get out in front of the next Apple announcement IMO, but I'm not sure if they can with their current timeline sadly.
I actually see the iPad3 as a big chance for people to catch up. The screen is big impressive and expensive tech but it doesn't really do much. Design is more important than specs and like someone said above the iOS design is getting long in the tooth.
People always complain about how iOS is getting "stale" or "boring" but then Apple releases sales figures and it turns out they're a minuscule minority.
People always complain about how iOS is getting "stale" or "boring" but then Apple releases sales figures and it turns out they're a minuscule minority.
People always complain about how iOS is getting "stale" or "boring" but then Apple releases sales figures and it turns out they're a minuscule minority.
One thing has nothing to do with the other.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. I pre-ordered my the new iPad few hours ago and I didn't do it, because I like iOS.
So about that new iPad. Hitting those hardware features, all of the check boxes, and that $500 price point still makes me wonder just wtf the competition can do to compete.
I fail to see how MS is going to make a dent in this market unless people really take to the whole W8 Metro thing. I bring this up because MS keeps on thinking W8 desktops/laptops as well as Win8 tablets will push people to also want W8 phones. I'm not sure if I'm seeing it, but maybe that's just me.
One thing has nothing to do with the other. I pre-ordered my the new iPad few hours ago and I didn't do it, because I like iOS.
The iPad is just a toy for me, but the reason I prefer it over any other tablet, is simply the form factor. I really like the 4:3 display ratio and I find 16:x tablets awkward to hold with one hand or in portrait mode (I use my iPad in portrait mode 99% of the time). Browsing the web on a widescreen display just doesn't make sense.You've said you're not a big app person either though I thought? I've always wondered what the iPad allure for you has been other than at the time of it's launch there wasn't really any other choice but the iPad.
You're not supposed to like iOS though. People don't buy things things to flick through menus or throw cards away.
Why am I not supposed to like the OS I used every day? Just because Apple can't do any better?
iOS has nothing to offer, it's just an app launcher. Multi tasking is crap and even the bundled apps like calendar or game center look like a finger painting by a five year old, except that the kid used shit instead of colors. Same goes for the new iMovies app. Hideous.
Flipboard? Now that's a great looking app and is fun to use.
Fun to use.
Nothing Apple does with iOS is fun to use. I'm thankful for the GPU accelerated UI that runs with steady 60 fps, but that's it.
I will never argue that Apple's love of skeumorphism isn't completely abhorrent.
That said, what do you want your OS to do? I think the point of mobile is to eliminate all the superfluous stuff that PCs are bogged down by; your device becomes whatever app you're currently using.
With a guaranteed 100+ million market, don't think MS will have much of a problem getting people to create Metro apps.i agree that IOS is getting long in the tooth, but you need to convince people to make apps for your device. something that google couldn't do yet
With a guaranteed 100+ million market, don't think MS will have much of a problem getting people to create Metro apps.
talking about ARM...
wait, shouldn't there be an OT2?
We're waiting for Apollo.
I'm fairly certain most of the metro apps will run on both as long as they code in HTML5...
lol
All Metro apps get compiled(no matter what they are written in) into both an x86 and ARM package before getting uploaded to the marketplace.
Windows Phone Marketplace app restrictions - Some processor-intensive apps have specific memory requirements, and will not work on devices with 256MB of RAM.
Podcast subscriptions and video podcasts - Devices with 256MB of RAM will not be able to manage podcast subscriptions of watch video podcasts.
Bing Local Scout - Microsoft is disabling Bing Local Scout on 256MB of RAM devices.
Fast app switching - The fast application switching, introduced with Mango, will be disabled on 256 MB of RAM devices.
SkyDrive automatic photo upload - Automatic upload of SkyDrive pictures will not be possible on 256MB of RAM devices, but users can still upload these manually.
HD video playback - 256MB of RAM devices won't be able to play video compressed with certain codecs.
Background agents - Microsoft has removed background agents functionality for devices with 256MB of memory.
unless you have more than 256 mb of RAM.Remember all that cool stuff we added with Mango?
yeah, you can't have any of that. trololololol.
unless you have more than 256 mb of RAM.
so basically they're gonna have 2 versions of the OS. one for high/mid range devices and one for low end devices.
fucking great ಠ_ಠ
I suppose that's not too bad, as long as the differences are clearly defined and the expectations as to high end/low end Windows Phone aren't muddled down the line. I wonder what a chart of Android eccentricities would look like considering how they've handled updates across all their phones. The iPhone comparison is idiotic in this chart.
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I don't recall any version of android removing major functionality that was recently introduced.
I'm a little confused why they would even bother with addressing a device with 256MB of ram, I refuse to believe it's cost oriented for assembly lines. It would literally be cents to push up to the next ram slot, but I guess with licensing costs accounted for, every corner makes sense to cut.
I don't recall any version of android removing major functionality that was recently introduced.
I'm a little confused why they would even bother with addressing a device with 256MB of ram, I refuse to believe it's cost oriented for assembly lines. It would literally be cents to push up to the next ram slot, but I guess with licensing costs accounted for, every corner makes sense to cut.
Wouldn't specific Android Versions available across the plethora of Android phones, take for example, Face Unlock in Ice Cream Sandwich be considered a feature not available across a wide amount of Android phones? Seems MS is making it black and white, low end and high end. Seems simpler doesn't it? I mean looking at the breakdown here, trying to figure out what was available in each version, plus the marketshare for each version, it's rough. They have a unified update directive coming right?
I suppose that's not too bad, as long as the differences are clearly defined and the expectations as to high end/low end Windows Phone aren't muddled down the line. I wonder what a chart of Android eccentricities would look like considering how they've handled updates across all their phones. The iPhone comparison is idiotic in this chart.
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http://theunderstatement.com/post/11982112928/android-orphans-visualizing-a-sad-history-of-support
itt people forget countries outside the united states exist?
Yup. I doubt even a single Tango phone will come out in North America, and if it does, it will be extremely cheap. Tango is largely for developing countries, no doubt a result of Microsoft playing to Nokia's strengths.itt people forget countries outside the united states exist?
I would say the difference would be that MS is specifically speccing out devices and limiting the features. In the case of something like face unlock, it has to do with shoddy optics not being up to snuff. I suppose it equates to the same end result though.
It just seems that if MS if taking full control of the specs, they might as well push forward. It's basically keeping the feature phone category instead of pushing for a move forward.
Is Microsoft after marketshare or huge profitability?the low end is important, Android is mopping up the floor with the prepaid market, and it's a great chance for MS to get their OS into the hands of people getting their first smartphone from their budget conscious parents.