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Witcher 3 downgrade arguments in here and nowhere else
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Indeed. You would think that people would realize that the game was still being developed and that things get tweaked and optimized as they finish building it. When you consider how massive this game is and what all it has going on, I am actually amazed that it looks and runs as well as it does in the footage we are getting. It looks like it was quite a feat.
XxRampage07xX
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It's too early to make a judgment, so I will hold my criticisms until the game officially comes out.
Imagine that :^)
Iunno. Why do companies advertise bullshit graphics as "in game"?
Or, ya know... Don't showcase bullshit graphics/settings that won't be in the final product... Not lying?
Pestilence11
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I like how people are saying it's the consoles' fault, as though they originally planned on it only being ran on i7s with 980s.
SuperInuit
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Personally I feel as if scale and art direction make up for it, but you're correct I don't really care about the technical aspects of graphics.
Iunno. Why do companies advertise bullshit graphics as "in game"?
Or, ya know... Don't showcase bullshit graphics/settings that won't be in the final product... Not lying?
Gotta reel us in somehow!
Crossing Eden
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And i'm looking at the gameplay videos that were posted instead of compressed screenshots. It most definitely does not look worse than Witcher 2 in anyway shape or form.
Sutton Dagger
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Ahhahahhahaha these comments are fantastic. Not sure who's trolling anymor?
This looks too much like a fake out. What platform was each picture taken on?
Corpsepyre
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Yeah, the game's definitely downgraded. Mentioned this earlier as well, and it's quite apparent from the videos and shots themselves. Nothing they've shown seems to stack with the 2013 trailer. I suppose consoles are the problem here. Anyhow, still going to be an awesome game, and looking forward to it.
It's a little more than that. I don't have the technical explanation, but earlier trailers had a lot of different coloration filters layered on. It's noticably different. I don't see this as a downgrade as much as it is a change in art direction. It's a shame, I kind of liked it more before.
This pretty much sums up my thoughts.
well from the video (at least to me) it's not that good either.
dugdug
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Everyone understands this. It still sucks that the visuals always take a hit.
MR ARCADE FOREVER
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It's not on the same level as Watch Dogs where the difference was astonishing. Sure the forms videos look better but not like night and day
Jonneh3003
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That crack is lookin' good
The Witcher 3 |OT| Grass is clipping through the rock
Surface of Me
I'm not an NPC. And neither are we.
I dont think you know what the word average means.
Garrett Hawke
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that's not how it works, especially considering all the effort that has gone into the PC version including all of the Nvidia exclusive features.
That's nice and all, but why then post in a thread about the graphics and downgrade? What bothers me most is probably CDPR saying that there has been no downgrade.
This is it.
I don't mean average for 1998. TBH I felt I was being generous for 2015. Are you including indies in the averages?
Totally agree, from a tweet I read the game doesn't sound very good.
nobodyshero
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The idea of visuals being downgraded prior to release makes no sense, since we all know to take everything we see pre-release, good or bad, with a grain of salt. Witcher 3's graphics can't have been downgraded because we haven't played the game and seen the graphics yet. All we've seen are work-in-concept demo's from very early versions of what CDPR hopes to achieve. That's all made before optimization comes even close to entering the picture, so to take them at their word for those exact visuals is nuts.
That GTA V PS4 bug that caused the visuals to actually downgraded post-patch? Those are downgraded visuals.
Comparing present day Witcher 3 graphics to work-in-concept trailers from over two years ago? That's not a downgrade.
That GTA V PS4 bug that caused the visuals to actually downgraded post-patch? Those are downgraded visuals.
Comparing present day Witcher 3 graphics to work-in-concept trailers from over two years ago? That's not a downgrade.
LostMyNarbles
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I'm actually surprised we didn't get a thread on this earlier. I saw the Reddit thread and thought to myself "Huh nobody seems outraged by this"checking around online it doesn't seem like anybody cares or noticed anything different...
I can't help but wonder what the response would be like if this was a EA/Ubisoft game.
I can't help but wonder what the response would be like if this was a EA/Ubisoft game.
Hmm, not really. Most of the people in "core/passionate gamer" forums — neogaf being the most typical example — can discuss this non-subject for pages and pages during several days or weeks, but it hardly goes anywhere else. A few videogame websites (who read these forums) write about it because it is something that'll attract a few more clicks and comments, but it's still the same environment. It's a debate in a microcosm. Imho it rottens the forums with a wrong way to criticize pre-launch screenshots or videos taken before optimization in order to create hype. It's juste whining that paradoxically inflates the hype (->sales) and the bubble around a game 1 month before the launch, and one or two weeks after it. But you won't see more than 1 or 2% of interesting posts in the threads that are rotten by downgrade shitstorms. It's the result of the "hype" marketing cycle, which is uncorrelated with what a process of development is, and both marketing footage and players reactions are uncorrelated with this process.
I see more and more people here trying to end or avoid these endless "debates"...But there is also more and more people talking about "downgrade" at the first or second trailer/screenshot.
BigTnaples
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Lol. Jesus Christ. No it doesn't.
Playing the Witcher 2 right now at 4K 60fps on a 65" display. It looks nowhere near as impressive as the Wild Hunt.
Was thinking the same. As mentioned earlier on, it does annoy me how Ubi can get so much hate for downgrades, but not this. This is extremely noticeable. Anyway, this obviously wont ruin the game for me whatsoever.
SapientWolf
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It honestly looks like a different game. I hope, for their sake, that the direct capture ultra PC screenshots hold up better.
LurkerPrime
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Congratulations, you've solved the Downgrade Enigma. Developers spend time near the end of development optimising the game and smoothing out its design, which generally means they have to make it work on the platforms they're targetting... which are never their testdev supercomputers. What this means is that pre-release "targetted footage" is not representative of the final game.
The thing is, while the visuals of the Witcher 3 aren't the same as release, they're not being outright dishonest about visual features in the dishonest way that some games are. For example Dark Souls 2, which had a prominent shadow system that was entirely absent from both of its releases. IIRC Watch_Dogs also had some questionable stuff, though I've never personally played it. It is only for these entirely fictional mock-ups that people should be screaming "DOWNGRADE!!!" because pre-release footage will never line up with release footage, simply because the game isn't done yet.
Seriously people. If there were a downgrade CD Projekt wouldn't be using "downgrade footage" for their trailers. They would be hiding it until the game releases. If that were the case, then I could understand the controversy.
A game should look better the longer it goes into development not worse.
Pretty much this. A year or two ago they aren't going to know what the final product looks like so they are going to show what they have. So if you really want them to stop over promising, then what you want is for them not to show you anything until the game is done. Which since they need to build up hype to sell the game they really can't do. so they are going to over promise.
Their games do not traditionally push the boundaries. People associated them with high level PC tech due to the fact that the ultra setting on 2 activated "ubersampling", which was taxing for many computers at the time.
Really, they just excelled at art design, and quite frankly, I don't think that's changed much here. With the scale, they did tone down some of the more fantastical elements of the design though, but that's fine.
This one looks so good. Yeah, they've pulled a ubisoft but the game has a huge open world. It would have probably required a really strong PC to make an open world game of this size looking like this.
cr_blah_blah
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I can't wait until E3 rolls around and everyone goes through the same exact cycle of falling for the same bullshit again and again.
Fallout 4 will be revealed and omg all over my face blah blah blah
Fallout 4 will be revealed and omg all over my face blah blah blah
Backfoggen
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Real bummer especially about the draw distance. That was the most impressive part.
people had a field day with other developers. Why does CDPR get a pass?
I does not suck if the game still looks outstanding, and the The Witcher 3 does.
Piercedveil
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Those old gifs are insane.
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