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In the latest confirmation of horseshoe theory, Wizards of the Coast has banished mixed race children from their realm. I don’t know who this appeases outside of actual racists, but the irony is thick and delicious.

D&D Removing Half Races Is Less Dramatic Than You Think (& the Right Choice)

While One D&D's plan to eliminate Half Races is controversial, it's the right move for both gameplay and addressing sensitivity concerns.

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During the recent Wizards of the Coast Summit, the Dungeons & Dragons' team explained its choice to remove half races from the upcoming One D&D incarnation of the game. Over the years, D&D has come under fire for racial insensitivity. The most recent infraction revolves around the portrayal of the Hadozee in the Spelljammer source material, but many players have lamented for years that the usage of the term "race" is inherently problematic.

If anyone can make sense of this, please explain the benefits of this decision in the comments. How does this affect BG4?

 

[Punished Miku]

As a half breed myself I find this utterly hilarious. People have been erasing mixed race people's identity for a long time, whether it was Obama or WEB Dubois. I don't know what people find so difficult to grasp about having 2 parents of different races and cultures. It is a unique perspective.

What a joke.

 

[Meicyn]

Considering half-elf is the race I always roll, pretty stupid. Half-elf is a popular pick because you’re offspring stuck between two cultures, which resonates with folks born of similar circumstances in real life.

 

[Senua]

Just needless really.

 

[HerjansEagleFeeder]

Stupidity has no boundaries. Never go full Wizard.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

I havent played D&D since dabbling with it in the 80s when my bros and I had no idea or patience to play it. Although we always enjoyed D&D video and PC games.

Never the less, what are the half-races now? The article and what I remember were Half-elf and Half-ogre. Anything else? Are any half-race characters OP?

Imagine half-gnome/half-ogre. lol

 

[Madonis]

Reading the article, it sounds like you can still create a character who is effectively a half-elf or half-orc. You'd just do that by picking traits and attributes, rather than a "half" race option.

While I am still not thrilled by the idea myself, conceptually speaking, the headline makes this sound like more of a problem than what it seems to be, in practice. That said, it depends on the specifics of the implementation in the end.

 

[Holammer]

Time to make your own settings with black jack and hookers, and half-elves.

 

[cormack12]

Wtf. So it was considered racist to call players half elf, so now they don't allow any mixed breed characters?

 

[MagiusNecros]

Half-Orc Barbarian is the only way to go IMO. WotC keeps losing.

 

[F0rneus]

The rulebook isn't a holy thing, it's just the general "Here's how to DM a campaign and here's how to play as a PC".

I'm in a Pathfinder bi-weekly campaign and I'm a 6 inch tall fairy sorceress. DM made up the rules of my char. Right now, I've been kidnapped by bandits and the team will have to rescue me. They don't know but the cave where the bandits are is not only trapped which my char saw, but also there are hints of giants spiders (I nailed that roll!).

People are going to play half-race anyway. WOTC is just being stupid. This new DnD ruleset sounds like ass anyway. People will stick with 5, cause it's golden.

 

[SirTerry-T]

This is why Warhammer Fantasy Roleplay needs to step up. None of this "play nice" bollocks to be found there.

 

[simpatico]

Reading the article, it sounds like you can still create a character who is effectively a half-elf or half-orc. You just would do that by picking traits and attributes.

While I am still not thrilled by the idea myself, conceptually speaking, the headline makes this sound like more of a problem than what it seems to be, in practice.

In terms of attributes, it seems like people can still get what they want. Only identity is affected, which is what makes this so idiotic. It’s one thing to change how the game is played for balancing, this just makes IRL mixed race people less able to relate to the characters they create.

 

[Punished Miku]

so now they don't allow any mixed breed characters?

When you're so progressive you sound like the KKK. Nailed it WotC.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Reading the article, it sounds like you can still create a character who is effectively a half-elf or half-orc. You'd just do that by picking traits and attributes, rather than a "half" race option.

While I am still not thrilled by the idea myself, conceptually speaking, the headline makes this sound like more of a problem than what it seems to be, in practice. That said, it depends on the specifics of the implementation in the end.

If new D&D lets you pick starting attributes regardless of race, can someone pick them in such a way it's like being half-fairy/half ogre? Imagine a pic of the parents and the gamer coming up with a background story. lol

 

[LordCBH]

Everytime I say “they cannot make a change more retarded than this” they prove me wrong. But this time I’ll say again: they cannot make a change more retarded than this.

 

[sendit]

 

[ReBurn]

I swear to god that article is written in an obscure language.

 

[IFireflyl]

When you're so progressive you sound like the KKK. Nailed it WotC.

"Separate but equal," huh? Let's see if this goes over any better than it did in the fifties.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

It's Baby Bingo time

 

[gaming_again]

The world these people inhabit is so shockingly regressive and mean. It's nice to know that the good people at Wizards of the Coast would consider my child problematic. And presumably my relationship, as well.

 

[Men_in_Boxes]

Them: "We're the good kind of racists".

Sane people: There are no good racists.

 

[tkscz]

but many players have lamented for years that the usage of the term "race" is inherently problematic.

 

[Reizo Ryuu]

this just makes IRL mixed race people less able to relate to the characters they create.

....ehh
There's no such thing as race amongst humans IRL, and the DnD humans are as ethnically diverse as humans are in real life, so you can always literally create a facsimile of yourself.
The idea that these players would only be able to relate to some half-orc is hilarious, or sad, not sure.

 

[lughnasadh123]

My brain hurts trying to make sense of this.

 

[Jinzo Prime]

It's Baby Bingo time

It's like the opposite of the Nintendo Seal of Quality. It's the Sweet Baby Seal of Satan.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

When you're so progressive you sound like the KKK. Nailed it WotC.

Let's be discriminatory and segregate people.

No. Let's blend people together and not look skin deep.

Scrap that, let's get back to siloing people.

You know the old saying..... history repeats itself.

 

[Dr.Morris79]

It's like the opposite of the Nintendo Seal of Quality. It's the Sweet Baby Seal of Satan.

I'm gutted they got to People can Fly

 

[Bradamante3D]

Probably the only context where you could ever talk about "race mixing" without sounding like a Klan member.

 

[Dazraell]

I'm gutted they got to People can Fly

I wonder what fuckery they did with Rocksteady on Suicide Squad game

 

[Arsic]

Pretty stupid. If an orc decides to bang a human let it happen.

That big green monster he’s packing needs to be drained on the regular.

 

[Arsic]

It's Baby Bingo time

I’m surprised owlcat isn’t on that list. Rogue Trader has some eyebrow moments in it that made me think they used this company lol.

 

[Killjoy-NL]

Beint bi-racial, I feel offended.

/s

 

[StereoVsn]

Time to make your own settings with black jack and hookers, and half-elves.

It already exists in Pathfinder. And it’s a much better system. Pathfinder WotR from Owlcat was amazing.

I could only dream of Larian’s take on the setting.

 

[StreetsofBeige]

It's Baby Bingo time

They got no shame promoting what they've done too. So much for confidentiality.

 

[ShaiKhulud1989]

FYI

Pathfinder is good

 

[Madflavor]

Hey!!!

You best stay away from my daughter Orc! You better git boy.

 

[kunonabi]

I wonder what fuckery they did with Rocksteady on Suicide Squad game

They got a grown woman being attracted to a child so far.

 

[Wildebeest]

Half-Elf, Half-Orc and Tiefling are incredibly popular. In reality, players love that "wrong side of the tracks" sort of origin, and it is the discrimination itself which makes it exciting for players. Aasimar, the "mixed" option which is supposed to be universally respected and trusted by society, is rarely ever played.

 

[Needlecrash]

THE FUCK.

 

[Dazraell]

They got a grown woman being attracted to a child so far.

 

[Danjin44]

I guess Xenoblade games ban as well? I mean story behind High Entia and what Melia‘s father try to do save their race.

also….

Spoiler

 

[Papa_Wisdom]

Good job I only play as a carrot

 

[shoplifter]

Can't be affected by this if you still play AD&D, like St. Cuthbert intended

Tiefling

Tieflings being moved from 'haha planescape crazy race isn't planescape so funny' to a core race was the beginning of the wackos taking over the hobby

 

[StreetsofBeige]

Good job I only play as a carrot

Not a bad choice. Some decent perks.

Eagle eyesight at +1000 meters, and hard body is resistant to blunt attacks. Party members can also gain improved vision if they spend a turn eating your weiner.

Major drawback is in hot climates you lose hit points being steamed to death.

 

[Mister Wolf]

One step closer to Earth's future eugenics war.

 

[STARSBarry]

Remember this is one DnD where everything is simplified so baby's can play, to attract new markets like the mentally handicapped.

I believe there doing something retarded like adding Orc as a playable race and then you just select one of the sets of the traits from your parents, so you can be an orc with the human trait set, now your a half orc.

I will point out that this is an EXTREMELY simplified set of racial traits, because as before this is baby's first DnD, they are essentially doing the complete opposite of pathfinder who finds joy in adding more and more complexity. So the traits hardly matter because they don't want people feeling like they screwed over their characters by taking non-meta picks... so they removed everything useful so you don't feel that way and commit suicide in real life (emotionally unstable are anouther new market)

 

[ManaByte]

Way to scare off the Furrys WOTC

 

[Werewolf Jones]

Wheelchair accessible dungeons is still funny as fuck. This is just strange.

 

[Darkmakaimura]

Absolutely absurd.