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Wkd Box Office [OT] 0730/8110 - Nolan's dream is still alive, Schmucks eat cake
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Drop Inceptionnnnn.
They made a Cats & Dogs sequel? wtf
They made a Cats & Dogs sequel? wtf
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Man you crazy. Shutter Island was a great movie.jett said:
Weekend actuals are in
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
Avatar is playing in 2 theaters, 3543 less than Inception, but its Per Theater Average is only $1000 less than Inception, and higher than the PTA of movies 3 through 20 in the Top 20
with 33 weeks of release, the movie has never even once dipped below $1000 PTA on the weekend
http://boxofficemojo.com/weekend/chart/
Avatar is playing in 2 theaters, 3543 less than Inception, but its Per Theater Average is only $1000 less than Inception, and higher than the PTA of movies 3 through 20 in the Top 20
with 33 weeks of release, the movie has never even once dipped below $1000 PTA on the weekend
PhoenixDark
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Really shows how poor Inception has performed, once you get past the smoke and mirrors.
Was going to see it last week but I had a feeling it would manage to stay on top of the box office. I'll see it this week to commemorate its fall from grace
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PhoenixDark said:
Hum hum, the crow, so good.
The people criticizing Inception are suffering from penis envy of just how amazing Nolan is. I'm not surprised though - this is a internet forum and people are bound to be emotionally invested in things so emotions are bound to run high.
I can sympathize though; you know theres going to be jealously when Nolan single handily beats the great directors who have made modern cinema; I'm talking about directors such as Spielberg, Scorsese, Scott, Hitchcock, Allen, Kubrick, Cameron, Coppola, Leone, Verhoeven, Tarantino, Jackson, Wachowski and Fincher. I mean this guy has come along within the last 20 years and utterly destroyed them. All you have to do is look at public opinion and everyone agrees; Inception is already at no#3, and when you consider that The Godfather and The Shawshank Redemption are utterly overrated, then you do realize that Inception is in fact the best film ever made.
Is this surprising though? The Dark Knight was an huge success, and if it wasn't for TDK Avatar would of been no where near as successful as it was. Critics agree that IMAX ticket prices and camera technology influenced Avatar. Hell, even James Cameron says it: "I was directly influenced by The Dark Knight".
Inception is the remaking of films as we know it. Inception shows us that films and hollywood don't need to treat us as idiots anymore. Films CAN be unnecessarily complex and still be successful. Obviously, some of the film critics are finding it hard to accept evolution. Forum posters such as Solo critique Nolan for his poorly directed action scenes and characters that lack depth. This may seem logical at appearance, what posters like Solo do not realize is that Nolan is treating the viewer with logical respect. Think about it; When Nolan directs a movie he directs with the view that the viewer is actually IN the movie; when you keep this in mind, the average viewer is not a soldier, if any of us were to be placed in an battlefield we would not be able to coordinate and participate because we lack experience - this is WHY we can't see whats happening in Nolan's action sequences.
A equal explanation can be given for why Nolan's characters lack depth. Look at it from what we've learned from above; although Nolan directs films as if the viewer was there, he doesn't direct it as if the viewer was INVOLVED with the events. Now take this and look at Nolan's characters. If I was in Inception, I'm sure as hell no one would be talking to me, and shit man I can't read minds. I wouldn't be able get to know anyone because everyone will be sleeping. This kind of cinema is utterly logical yet so perfect and moist at the same time.
What holds the future for Nolan and cinema? For those who keep up to date with Nolan news, Nolan is going 3D. Nolan says that this will allow him to reinvent cinema as we know because he will be able to finally give characters the depth they deserve.
I can sympathize though; you know theres going to be jealously when Nolan single handily beats the great directors who have made modern cinema; I'm talking about directors such as Spielberg, Scorsese, Scott, Hitchcock, Allen, Kubrick, Cameron, Coppola, Leone, Verhoeven, Tarantino, Jackson, Wachowski and Fincher. I mean this guy has come along within the last 20 years and utterly destroyed them. All you have to do is look at public opinion and everyone agrees; Inception is already at no#3, and when you consider that The Godfather and The Shawshank Redemption are utterly overrated, then you do realize that Inception is in fact the best film ever made.
Is this surprising though? The Dark Knight was an huge success, and if it wasn't for TDK Avatar would of been no where near as successful as it was. Critics agree that IMAX ticket prices and camera technology influenced Avatar. Hell, even James Cameron says it: "I was directly influenced by The Dark Knight".
Inception is the remaking of films as we know it. Inception shows us that films and hollywood don't need to treat us as idiots anymore. Films CAN be unnecessarily complex and still be successful. Obviously, some of the film critics are finding it hard to accept evolution. Forum posters such as Solo critique Nolan for his poorly directed action scenes and characters that lack depth. This may seem logical at appearance, what posters like Solo do not realize is that Nolan is treating the viewer with logical respect. Think about it; When Nolan directs a movie he directs with the view that the viewer is actually IN the movie; when you keep this in mind, the average viewer is not a soldier, if any of us were to be placed in an battlefield we would not be able to coordinate and participate because we lack experience - this is WHY we can't see whats happening in Nolan's action sequences.
A equal explanation can be given for why Nolan's characters lack depth. Look at it from what we've learned from above; although Nolan directs films as if the viewer was there, he doesn't direct it as if the viewer was INVOLVED with the events. Now take this and look at Nolan's characters. If I was in Inception, I'm sure as hell no one would be talking to me, and shit man I can't read minds. I wouldn't be able get to know anyone because everyone will be sleeping. This kind of cinema is utterly logical yet so perfect and moist at the same time.
What holds the future for Nolan and cinema? For those who keep up to date with Nolan news, Nolan is going 3D. Nolan says that this will allow him to reinvent cinema as we know because he will be able to finally give characters the depth they deserve.
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Do you ever stop being a douche?PhoenixDark said:
SCULLIBUNDO
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I can't believe nobody has pointed out PD's obvious attempts to have his brilliant crow-eating avatar, that features one of his most hated people on the planet replaced with some suave Nolan vestige.
It won't work PD. You're stuck with Cameron beating your face in till March next year.
It won't work PD. You're stuck with Cameron beating your face in till March next year.
At least a fair chunk of those who have gone against the grain, have typically backed their viewpoints up rather substantively. That's all you can really ask for. I could throw out hyperbole-ridden fragmented sentences, backed with nothing more than a picture as well, but I figured people would appreciate something a bit more intellectual.
SCULLIBUNDO
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Yeah I don't think anybody in here has been saying Nolan sucks. I'm pretty sure everybody in here likes the guys films. There just seem to be people who have their lips puckered so close to his ass cheek, that the brown eye they're pressing their ear up against means that any time they hear a gasp of air in the form of a new post, they expect it to be somebody talking shit.
I too would like to see Cameron bring someone in to help with the scripts.
In fact, Cameron should handle pretty much everything (dude can pace and build a movie like a genius) but someone else handling the dialogue would help.
But on the other hand, I don't know where his particular kind of genius comes from, so I don't know if I want to mess with the mix.
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In fact, Cameron should handle pretty much everything (dude can pace and build a movie like a genius) but someone else handling the dialogue would help.
But on the other hand, I don't know where his particular kind of genius comes from, so I don't know if I want to mess with the mix.
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jett said:
Oh ma' jett. You disappoint me so. And yes, the Aliens script is masterful in its design. It should be mandatory reading for any screenwriter.
harSon said:
I guess commenting on Inception's script is off-limits now!
Gimme a fucking break.
Scullibundo said:
Sorry Sculli ol' buddy but the pacing is kinda ruined for me in the special edition. I guess since you're just insisting on the quality of the thing I'll try to read it one day, but I doubt it.
vooglie said:
I'm not being ignorant, a screenplay is not always synonymous with its end result, and some of them are more eloquently written than others. An excellent screenplay does not necessarily mean that its film adaptation is going to be equally as impressive, and the exact opposite is true as well.
Have you read Tarantino's screenplays? They're not all that great to be perfectly honest, something that can't be seen by simply watching the film itself.
The script would be worse because Cameron would never give up control. So another writer would wind up writing what Cameron would have wrote anyway but not as good!gdt5016 said:
It's better to just accept the type of writer Cameron is. That's the beauty of variety. Personally I think Cameron can write complex stories, but his vision is now too big. There's not enough room for both.
GoutPatrol
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Then why does this thread read like you're hating the player (Nolan) and not the game (GAF)?
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