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Women Characters Redesigned by Women SFF Artists
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My favorite redesign is one that fans of the series would find blasphemous. I think it makes her actually look like a bounty hunter.
Ahhh I totally forgot about this!! Love it!
*squints* Oh holy crap, didn't even notice that. Hmmmm. :/
Except all the main male characters from Solid Snake and Big Boss, to Raiden have worn skin tight uniforms that left little to the imagination so it's not something the female characters had to endure solely.
Hell Raiden was butt naked at one point, running around cupping his spuds, no one gave a shit.
I realize the difference because women have been oppressed longer, but I look forward to a day when we can have sexy male character and sexy female characters in equal measurements without anyone batting an eyelid.
My favorite redesign is one that fans of the series would find blasphemous. I think it makes her actually look like a bounty hunter.
WOAH, why haven't I seen this before? This is like space lady James Dean shit.
It is.
The question is why Nintendo keeps trying to get her out of the iconic Power Suit so she's fighting in her undies.
It's because Nintendo has no fucking idea what to do with Metroid.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The ZSS redesign looks like the female pilots from Titanfall.
Samus looks like she'll jump into a mech than into her Varia suit.
Samus looks like she'll jump into a mech than into her Varia suit.
WrenchNinja
Member
That only really happened in one Metroid game, didn't it?
How often does that happen though, outside of Justin Bailey and non-Metroid games? I was under the impression that the ending of Zero Mission and Other M didn't have much combat.
No, it happened in two Metroid ga- Ohhhhh, I see what you did there.
Palculator
Unconfirmed Member
Felt the need to highlight this since the basic argument behind it seems applicable again: Quiet's design itself is not a problem, we can have characters like her*, we just need other ones as well. Who knows? In MGS3 we had an oversexualized character alongside an awesome female character, so we might get another one here.
But the trend remains the main issue, not Quiet.
*speaking as someone who knows nothing about her because the game isn't out.
Fair enough, it's just it reminds me of this:
Rather than this:
And so feels to me...a bit lazy i guess, considering how the design could have stood out.
This is awesome, right up in the same tier with Chris Lightfellow
Yes, really. It's what Tony Stark generally wears under his Iron Man armour, too.
TekGryphon
Banned
I admittedly don't play or know a lot about the Metroid series, but I always thought it was weird that Samus was a bounty hunter in this squeaky clean power armor and sleek body suit. When I think of bounty hunters I envision something more along the lines of the re-imagining you posted than her normal appearance.
Being a male, I'll just share my wife's expectation of female characters, which basically aligns with her notion of male characters: be as badass as possible. Her favorite female archetype is probably the Sisters of Battle from Warhammer 40K:
To be fair, though. Sororitas Adeptas are some crazy fucking ladies.
WrenchNinja
Member
This is a series that started off with her in a bikini under the armour and years later they design an outfit for her that hugs all of her curves and contours that may as well be body paint. There is nothing else to it and no amount of rationalisation is going to make it sound reasonable or good.
Real women wear tight clothing and dress sexy? You're proving my point of a skewed ideal of what women do do and should do. "Real" women wear a wide variety and spectrum of clothes in variable shapes and sizes. Videogames should reflect that, when what we currently have is a disproportionate level of sexualised clothing which is there for the enjoyment of men. That's literally why it's there. It's a bullshit and unfair reason for a hobby that should be open to anyone.
I'm not saying get rid of characters like Bayonetta. I'm saying goddamn, find some fucking balance.
If every female character is designed under the male gaze to be attractive and pleasing to look at, it completely and totally DOES subconsciously affect people to expect real living people to be held to the same standard.
I can't believe any of you people who think you have such total control over the way your mind works that you're not even remotely subconsciously skewed by repeated information. Whisper something in someone's ear enough times to someone and they'll start believing it. And the industry has been whispering that the role of women is to be attractive and submissive and exist for the enjoyment of men for a long time. I'm just calling for some balance of interesting and differently designed characters alongside the disproportionately huge section of sexpot characters.
ElBoxyBrown
Banned
The dreadlocks make her look like a stoner-hippie girl. I can almost hear her go, "Woah man look what I can do with my hands! This shit is trippin me out!"
WrenchNinja
Member
Tony Stark doesn't wear suits like the women in that game though. Was there really a deep reason to have the Beauties be perfect looking models underneath in skin tight outfits that try to hug you to death and will pose for you if you take your camera out?
cj_iwakura
Member
If they show up on your world, you done effed up.
I really like a lot of these, even the ZSS for what it is. I don't think it would work well as a Zero Suit though because the entire point is that it's an undersuit which are usually as skintight and minimalistic as possible. It is definitely used in sexist as fuck fashions, but it makes sense.
I'd love to see a version of the Zero Suit with more padding though
I'd love to see a version of the Zero Suit with more padding though
Well, they are called The Beauty and the Beast Unit. They're supposed to be pretty-looking women beneath the monstrous machine suits.
The problem is that they have no fucking personality beyond stories like
orthodoxy1095
Banned
Does she need to be smoking? No. But I can't imagine a bounty hunter character without some amount of "smooth" and "swagger."
Demoskinos
Member
My only problem with this is the wording of the article it should very much say "What I want" instead of "What women want" because that assumes that it speaks for all women which it very much doesn't.
I'll give the article this though at least they made an effort for some actual redesigns rather than the hack-jobs over at http://repair-her-armor.tumblr.com/ who do little else but just cover them up with bad photoshop jobs rather than actually trying to make original armor redesigns.
I'll give the article this though at least they made an effort for some actual redesigns rather than the hack-jobs over at http://repair-her-armor.tumblr.com/ who do little else but just cover them up with bad photoshop jobs rather than actually trying to make original armor redesigns.
She wakes up the next morning hungry af and someone else explains to her that she'd imagined the whole thing.
"Dude, i don't think that was ket..."
Anton Sugar
Member
Yeah, I'd be fine with this direction, too.
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
Whoever did that peach redesign needs to go work for Activision. Much gritty such gunz, wow.
On the other hand Samus looks awesome. Retro in a way.
On the other hand Samus looks awesome. Retro in a way.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
Whaaat? no. Even the Boss knows that having such thick padding on her legs(For what reason????) and various little packs around her chest is horrible.
Not that I don't like that piece (actually I like it a lot) but it does seem really weird that a lot of people only have one idea of what a half human/half alien bounty hunter can look like and any deviation from that is wrong - especially given the character's origin. The fact that Samus has pretty much always had a "bombshell" look has never detracted from her being a badass or awesome character (blah blah Other M - there are other Metroid games that exist you guys!)
Shouta
Member
Huh? I'm pretty sure in a lot of depcitions of Tony Stark, he wears a suit under the armor. Sometimes he might be in civilian clothes but he often has a specialized suit under it. I'm pretty sure there are examples from the movies, comics, and cartoons. He ain't posing for ya but that's like an additionla +alpha if anything.
Maybe you're on to something. Maybe this is what Samus should be wearing under the armor:
Tinfoilhatsron
Banned
But the writing is pretty much Kojima at this point. Isn't everyone in the series utterly ridiculous. Especially GZ *eye roll* OT, but it needed to be said.
Yes he does. There are comics where he is actually completely naked under the armour.
Unless it's an emergency, he puts on a bodysuit similar to the Zero Suit before getting into his armour.
WrenchNinja
Member
I know he has a specialized suit under the armour. I'm saying his suit isn't like the ones in MGS4. They don't hug every bit of his body and leave nothing to the imagination. The suit doesn't make him look sexy.
Some Nobody
Junior Member
This thread is like, proof that nobody ever reads the OP.
Angelus Errare
Banned
ITT: A bunch of men think they have a better idea of what women want than actual women.
Basically...society's belief since the dawn of time.
Basically...society's belief since the dawn of time.
Crossing Eden
Hello, my name is Yves Guillemot, Vivendi S.A.'s Employee of the Month!
People will always cosplay as characters, but that quote you posted was something he said after the backlash for the fact that he wanted to encourage the sale of figurines and also cosplay. It was basically PR that gets used by his fans as rebuttals for what is an obviously sexist and absolutely ridiculous character design for the game that he believes will prove that games are culturally relevant unless they tackle specific issues.He clarified by saying he wanted to make her unique, not erotic, but sexy.
And why didn't you add the fact that people have already cosplayed as her?
Here's some more, all different people.
http://th04.deviantart.net/fs70/PRE/i/2013/217/5/7/quiet___the_phantom_pain_by_ixiserenityixi-d6ga3yt.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BQ4dAUYCMAAOGgK.jpg
https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/236x/7b/7f/cb/7b7fcb0bc9354bca7d4877771e9a394d.jpg
http://41.media.tumblr.com/f4cac04218eb72ec5ba50640402b88c0/tumblr_n1603lbWes1rztdgoo1_500.jpg
http://www.allthatsepic.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/quiet-cosplay-2.jpg
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BoI9t5oIgAAmAfQ.png:large(< This one is a guy cosplaying, omg right?)
I won't get into the whole cosplay scene, but people like dressing up as sexy characters and adding sexiness is something Kojima does for many of his characters, male and female.
I personally can't think of anyone to rival Eva in that regard.
And even more amazing is how many female characters he's created overall, each with deep backstories and integral relevance to the plot of each game. I can name tons of big AAA gaming franchises that have barely a handful of female characters and most of which aren't even developed at all.
It's much more practical than the Zero Suit for flexibility. Main issue I see is the thighs would chafe like crazy.Maybe you're on to something. Maybe this is what Samus should be wearing under the armor:
Yeah, the writing in Metal Gear Solid 4 is pretty shitty in general.
KojiKnight
Member
My favorite redesign is one that fans of the series would find blasphemous. I think it makes her actually look like a bounty hunter.
That doesn't look like a bounty hunter... it looks like a "motorcycle mama"... Also why is she smoking a cigar?
Good luck fighting space pirates in a biker outfit between coughs though.
BreezyLimbo
Banned
That is quite an accusation. How is she sexist? Because of how she's dressed?