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[pel1300]

Because you only get one life. They're making theirs awesome and you're considering working a job out of college that an elementary school janitor looks down on.

Perhaps you should use that psychology degree of yours to figure out why you're acting like a stupid high school teenager.

^^^

This guy is a textbook example of the type of person you don't want in your life.

Narrow minded person who looks down on others and judges their choices. Probably isn't too comfortable with himself if he judges other people that way.

You're the type of person who asks people what they do, and if they respond with a career that you "look down" on, you feel awkward and don't know what to say in response. Right?

I had a few friends like you. They were hard on themselves, and hard on everyone around them. Glad I don't talk to them anymore.

 

[deadbeef]

You're screwing yourself, man. Just go get a job related to your degree. So you don't want to, wahhhhhhhh!!! Who cares, go do it. Eventually you are going to have a family and you will want to be able to support them. Or you will be older and worried about retirement and you will wish that you had taken a different path. You've done the hard part - going to college. Now go and reap the benefits. Sheesh.

 

[bjork]

Maybe he'd be awesome enough at Costco to be some kind of high-ranking office type. You think the guy running Costco couldn't buy and sell everyone on this forum? But wait, he works at Costco.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

^^^

This guy is a textbook example of the type of person you don't want in your life.

Narrow minded person who looks down on others and judges their choices. Probably isn't too comfortable with himself if he judges other people that way.

You're the type of person who asks people what they do, and if they respond with a career that you "look down" on, you feel awkward and don't know what to say in response. Right?

I had a few friends like you. They were hard on themselves, and hard on everyone around them. Glad I don't talk to them anymore.

You can spend your time judging me for judging you while you make $10 an hour and deal with the public, or you can spend your time judging me for judging you while you make enough to actually afford air conditioning and have the chance to enjoy life on the weekends and in an early retirement.

You only have one life. I'm not going to look down on you if you want to spend it helping fat old women that yell at you because they don't understand return policies. I will look down on you for taking the easy way out and playing it lazy after you've already done your time in school. I would say you're better than that, but you're not very convincing so far.

 

[pel1300]

Please forget I said that I went to college so that my parents/family wouldn't cut me off. It was just sort of a half joke reply to get ppl to shut up about "why didn't you go to college?".

It would have been more like, I'd have to argue with them about it every freakin day for years.

Truth is it was a combination of that and me now knowing the the hell I wanted to do at age 18. And actually, I did sort of want to experience college. There is nothing like the dorm life of freshmen year.

 

[Blackace]

You're screwing yourself, man. Just go get a job related to your degree. So you don't want to, wahhhhhhhh!!! Who cares, go do it. Eventually you are going to have a family and you will want to be able to support them. Or you will be older and worried about retirement and you will wish that you had taken a different path. You've done the hard part - going to college. Now go and reap the benefits. Sheesh.

well if he say worked for 2 years, then decided to get a job related to his degree would he be screwing himself? To me it just sounds like he doesn't really know what he wants to do or accomplish yet. Sometimes you need a bit of time to figure it out. If he doesn't and wants to work at Costo that is fine too, it is in the end his life. Some people don't see having a 70k job as the most important thing in life...While it indeed does make life easier it isn't everything

 

[Jamesfrom818]

^^^

This guy is a textbook example of the type of person you don't want in your life.

Narrow minded person who looks down on others and judges their choices. Probably isn't too comfortable with himself if he judges other people that way.

You're the type of person who asks people what they do, and if they respond with a career that you "look down" on, you feel awkward and don't know what to say in response. Right?

I had a few friends like you. They were hard on themselves, and hard on everyone around them. Glad I don't talk to them anymore.

I don't believe anyone here is really judging the profession that you're choosing. We (well, at least I am) are judging you because you went to college and probably cost your family a lot of money so you can get a job that any high school graduate can get.

Maybe he'd be awesome enough at Costco to be some kind of high-ranking office type. You think the guy running Costco couldn't buy and sell everyone on this forum? But wait, he works at Costco.

I very much doubt Costco's high-ranking office types started out as cashiers.

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

Meh, I moved out of my house on a full-time $7/hr job. Still was able to have cable tv, a nice television set, and a few games. Of course, I didn't drink, so that helped greatly.

I'm in a better position now thanks to my degree, but it's not like living on $10/hr for a while will make you destitute. Do what you want with your life. Don't listen to GAF, seriously. GAF on average seems to be in higher socioeconomic status than the average folk.

 

[deadbeef]

well if he say worked for 2 years, then decided to get a job related to his degree would he be screwing himself? To me it just sounds like he doesn't really know what he wants to do or accomplish yet. Sometimes you need a bit of time to figure it out. If he doesn't and wants to work at Costo that is fine too, it is in the end his life. Some people don't see having a 70k job as the most important thing in life...While it indeed does make life easier it isn't everything

This is true, but people tend to adapt to their current situation. Nobody is comfortable with change - I'm not and I'm sure he isn't either (obviously). But the danger is that he will get in a groove at Costco and snap out of it ten years later when his skills from his degree have gotten rusty. Employers will want to know why he didn't pursue a job in his field after college - why did he work at Costco for so long? He will seem to be unmotivated, and it will get increasingly hard to get a job in his field.

 

[pel1300]

You can spend your time judging me for judging you while you make $10 an hour and deal with the public, or you can spend your time judging me for judging you while you make enough to actually afford air conditioning and have the chance to enjoy life on the weekends and in an early retirement.

You only have one life. I'm not going to look down on you if you want to spend it helping fat old women that yell at you because they don't understand return policies. I will look down on you for taking the easy way out and playing it lazy after you've already done your time in school. I would say you're better than that, but you're not very convincing so far.

Yeah because my plan for working at costco was to be a cashier making $10 for the rest of my life there. Did you even read the first post?

At least pay attention to what you are reading if you're gonna be such a dick about it. You obviously aren't since you keep bringing up the $$ issue. If you throw out prestige and only thing about the $$ issue, than costco is clearly a better investment than, say, social work or high school teaching.

 

[Blackace]

This is true, but people tend to adapt to their current situation. Nobody is comfortable with change - I'm not and I'm sure he isn't either (obviously). But the danger is that he will get in a groove at Costco and snap out of it ten years later when his skills from his degree have gotten rusty. Employers will want to know why he didn't pursue a job in his field after college - why did he work at Costco for so long? He will seem to be unmotivated, and it will get increasingly hard to get a job in his field.

well again just depends how long he stays at Costco really. Also if he stays at Costco for 10 years he didn't want a job in his field...

 

[fatigues_gasolini]

IT sounds like you actually have a useful degree. I know a girl who went to school for 4 years to get a history degree, shes now a secretary, making like $9/hr.

 

[bjork]

I very much doubt Costco's high-ranking office types started out as cashiers.

Perhaps not, but who's to say it isn't possible?

 

[quaere]

Maybe he'd be awesome enough at Costco to be some kind of high-ranking office type. You think the guy running Costco couldn't buy and sell everyone on this forum? But wait, he works at Costco.

That argument is just all kinds of stupid. Don't use that as a justification.

If he wants to work at Costco, whatever, I'm not here to tell people what they want to do with their lives. But don't try to justify it as "it's a stepping stone to management". If someone wanted to work in management, there are dozens of ways that are ten times more likely to get there, especially with a college degree.

This is a base level retail job that more than likely won't ever go anywhere, pretending it's anything else is just cheating yourself.

 

[WickedAngel]

Perhaps not, but who's to say it isn't possible?

It's possible that he could win the lottery. That doesn't mean he should count on that notion.

 

[Blackace]

IT sounds like you actually have a useful degree. I know a girl who went to school for 4 years to get a history degree, shes now a secretary, making like $9/hr.

I majored in Japanese history and culture.. and have a IT networking degree.. But I live in Japan so I kind of use my major..

 

[bjork]

That argument is just all kinds of stupid. Don't use that as a justification.

If he wants to work at Costco, whatever, I'm not here to tell people what they want to do with their lives. But don't try to justify it as "it's a stepping stone to management". If someone wanted to work in management, there are dozens of ways that are ten times more likely to get there, especially with a college degree.

This is a base level retail job that more than likely won't ever go anywhere, pretending it's anything else is just cheating yourself.

That depends entirely on your definition of "go anywhere." A lot of people here sure are worried about being able to say they have such and such title or make x dollars. It's still a job. You still gotta get up and go to work. The only exceptions in this entire forum are like... morphix and robertsan. Everyone else is still slaving to the man, so who the hell cares?

It's possible that he could win the lottery. That doesn't mean he should count on that notion.

Or it's possible that he could dive headfirst into his degree's field, then choke on a chicken bone and die. Wow!

 

[Blackace]

It's possible that he could win the lottery. That doesn't mean he should count on that notion.

Well that is the worst example I have heard in this thread. He just needs some time to settle himself. And if he does stay there at least Costco treats their employees semi-decent..

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Yeah because my plan for working at costco was to be a cashier making $10 for the rest of my life there. Did you even read the first post?

You have a psychology degree, and you're going to try to work at Costco. You're not meant for any sort of higher-tier position.

I'd love it if you could prove me wrong and enjoy a great, healthy life, but as I said, you're not very convincing.

 

[WickedAngel]

Well that is the worst example I have heard in this thread. He just needs some time to settle himself. And if he does stay there at least Costco treats their employees semi-decent..

Sorry, but no. The example is perfectly sound; expecting to excel to a position of management from an entry-level, futureless job is just as ludicrous as expecting to hit it big and win the lottery. It's probably even more ludicrous than winning the lottery in terms of statistics.

The fact that he's even considering a position like this fresh out of college shows he has no motivation, let alone the dedication required to excel to a high-level position like others are suggesting.

 

[Drozmight]

Yeah, surprised me too...

:lol

That movie has its moments.

 

[commish]

Sorry to say, but psychology degrees aren't terribly useful in and of themselves. Try to find a job that will pay for you to get your Masters or something.

And don't work at Costco.

 

[quaere]

That depends entirely on your definition of "go anywhere." A lot of people here sure are worried about being able to say they have such and such title or make x dollars.

I was responding to your suggestion that he could hope to achieve money or titles at Costco.

Wanna work at Costco? Cool. Just don't pretend it's anything more than working entry level at Costco.

"Maybe he'd be awesome enough at Costco to be some kind of high-ranking office type."

 

[mj1108]

I'd probably avoid working at Costco. Unless the prospects of manning the food samples stands interests you.

The people who do the food samples work for another company. I used to know a chick who used to do that stuff. The company they work for actually purchases the stuff that they use for the demos and then anything they don't use after they demo it, they let them keep. I got hooked up with all kinds of stuff that way. Soap, shampoo, etc....

 

[bjork]

I was responding to your suggestion that he could hope to achieve money or titles at Costco.

"Maybe he'd be awesome enough at Costco to be some kind of high-ranking office type."

There's nothing to stop him from doing so. Maybe he'd be the Michael Jordan of Costco, who knows? I can't judge a guy by a string of posts on a message board, since there's more to his story than that.

 

[deadbeef]

Sorry to say, but psychology degrees aren't terribly useful in and of themselves. Try to find a job that will pay for you to get your Masters or something.

And don't work at Costco.

Oh he has a bachelor's degree in psychology? I didn't read that, oops. Yeah, you really need to get a Master's at least in psychology to do something with it (related to psychology).

If that is the case, then try and get a job somewhere that will pay for your school. Then you can have a full-time job and take your time getting a more advanced degree, and have it paid for!

 

[pel1300]

You have a psychology degree, and you're going to try to work at Costco. You're not meant for any sort of higher-tier position.

I'd love it if you could prove me wrong and enjoy a great, healthy life, but as I said, you're not very convincing.

Yep. After all, you do know a lot about me and my lifestyle, needs, wants, and values.

Seriously though, you have no idea what you're talking about. For being so arrogant, you really haven't done an ounce of research on what you're arguing about.

 

[Ether_Snake]

Hey man, I'll make it simple:

1- You are not Forest Gump.
2- WTF do you do if Cotsco closes?

You can't aim to work at a company, you must aim at getting the necessary educational baggage that will enable you to land a job where you want to work, at a good salary, with the ease of finding another job at another company if you aren't happy there in the end, WITH EASE.

You are going to tell your parents that if they think education is so important they will back you up for a few more years while you get higher education. Learn another language too (not Spanish please), like French of Japanese or Chinese or German, whatever. And get some education in something that is more global, less specific, which will give you a foundation on which you will always be able to rely in case you change field entirely.

And **** your Costco dream, believe me you WILL regret it one day if you go along that road.

Get to work.

 

[WickedAngel]

Yep. After all, you do know a lot about me and my lifestyle, needs, wants, and values.

Seriously though, you have no idea what you're talking about. For being so arrogant, you really haven't done an ounce of research on what you're arguing about.

We know plenty from what you've told us.

1. You went to college for people other than yourself.
2. You went after a major that you apparently had little/no interest in.
3. You just graduated and you want an easy, pie job.
4. You're going after a job that any highschool graduate could get.
5. You're basing your career plans on the notion of getting to a management position in said company through an entry level position.

That's what you've told us so far. If that's what you want, that's fine...but don't try to trick yourself into believing that you've done anything but wasted some tuition money and four years of your time. You'll soon find that rumors of quick, reliable "career advancement" via companies like that are typically perpetuated by very lucky individuals or individuals who have recently received raises and are temporarily happy with their jobs and trying to make them sound more glorious than they really are.

 

[Liu Kang Baking A Pie]

Yep. After all, you do know a lot about me and my lifestyle, needs, wants, and values.

Seriously though, you have no idea what you're talking about. For being so arrogant, you really haven't done an ounce of research on what you're arguing about.

I don't need to. You have a psychology degree and you're actively pursuing Costco.

 

[pel1300]

We know plenty from what you've told us.

1. You went to college for people other than yourself.
2. You went after a major that you apparently had little/no interest in.
3. You just graduated and you want an easy, pie job.
4. You're going after a job that any highschool graduate could get.
5. You're basing your career plans on the notion of getting to a management position in said company through an entry level position.

That's what you've told us so far. If that's what you want, that's fine...but don't try to trick yourself into believing that you've done anything but wasted some tuition money and four years of your time.

1. I went to college for both myself and other ppl, just like most ppl who have no clue about their future goals

2. Psychology was the most interesting major to me. The other alternatives were econ, science, math, computer science, or some liberal arts. Everyone at my school does econ because theres no business degree offered here. I couldn't stand the econ classes I took.

3. Yeah I can admit that I'd like an easy job. and I'm not ashamed to admit it either.

4. I asked a few questions about working at Costco. That doesn't mean I'm aiming for it. It only means I'm curiosu about it, and that I am keeping my mind open to it as a possibility.

But, yeah, and I'm ok with my college degree not being put to use. As long as I end up ok financially in the long run.

5. see #4.

 

[pel1300]

Sorry to say, but psychology degrees aren't terribly useful in and of themselves.

Dude, most ppl who choose psychology already know this and are tired of hearing it. No need to tell them as if they were ignorant fools who thought they could get a high paying position at deloitte, google or whatever with nothing except a psych degree.

You have a psychology degree and you're actively pursuing Costco.

oh god...

Yeah because asking 2 or 3 questions about Costco's hiring/promoting style means I'm "actively pursuing Costco"

If I were "ACTIVELY" pursuing costco I'd be far past the stage of asking about the company on NeoGAF, you genius

It was just a thought that crossed my mind. I did a little bit of research on it, and then asked about it on here.

It's my turn to be the judgmental prick: You have the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.

 

[medrew]

People by definition should be rational and hedonistic, but human interaction often shows just how they go against rationality on earning potential and instead bring in other factors that cannot be captured in an abstract utility-maximizing equation and suggests intransitivity.

Econ is great.

 

[GaimeGuy]

1. I went to college for both myself and other ppl, just like most ppl who have no clue about their future goals

2. Psychology was the most interesting major to me. The other alternatives were econ, science, math, computer science, or some liberal arts. Everyone at my school does econ because theres no business degree offered here. I couldn't stand the econ classes I took.

3. Yeah I can admit that I'd like an easy job. and I'm not ashamed to admit it either.

4. I asked a few questions about working at Costco. That doesn't mean I'm aiming for it. It only means I'm curiosu about it, and that I am keeping my mind open to it as a possibility.

But, yeah, and I'm ok with my college degree not being put to use. As long as I end up ok financially in the long run.

5. see #4.

I'd be more worried about getting a job that's enjoyable than doing well financially. After all, you will be spending 1/3 of your week doing your job. For occupying 33% of your life (at least), you better make it something you enjoy doing.

 

[Saerk]

I worked at Office Depot after I graduated. I did this mostly because the job market just wasn't hiring. I worked there for about 2.5 months, and then when the job market opened back up I was able to find a new job. I work IT for the government now. It is amazingly easier to land a job if you are working, even if that job is POS low paying job like retail. After I took this job for IT I had to turn down 3 other offers. Before, I sucked up my pride and worked at OD, I just received rejection notices.

Working at Costco for a few months might do you good, but I'm not going to recommend sticking around for any long periods of time.

 

[commish]

I'd be more worried about getting a job that's enjoyable than doing well financially. After all, you will be spending 1/3 of your week doing your job. For occupying 33% of your life (at least), you better make it something you enjoy doing.

if you become a lawyer, it's 85.8% of your week.

 

[commish]

I worked at Office Depot after I graduated. I did this mostly because the job market just wasn't hiring. I worked there for about 2.5 months, and then when the job market opened back up I was able to find a new job. I work IT for the government now. It is amazingly easier to land a job if you are working, even if that job is POS low paying job like retail. After I took this job for IT I had to turn down 3 other offers. Before, I sucked up my pride and worked at OD, I just received rejection notices.

Working at Costco for a few months might do you good, but I'm not going to recommend sticking around for any long periods of time.

You don't think the job market opening back up had a little more to do with you receiving job offers than working retail at OD?

 

[Segata Sanshiro]

I don't know about the situation where you're at, but in Canada at least you can do social work with a Bachelor's in Psych. Starts at about 45k/year here. That's not too bad to save some cash for a run at the higher degrees.

 

[Freshmaker]

That argument is just all kinds of stupid. Don't use that as a justification.

If he wants to work at Costco, whatever, I'm not here to tell people what they want to do with their lives. But don't try to justify it as "it's a stepping stone to management". If someone wanted to work in management, there are dozens of ways that are ten times more likely to get there, especially with a college degree.

This is a base level retail job that more than likely won't ever go anywhere, pretending it's anything else is just cheating yourself.

.

 

[pel1300]

I don't know about the situation where you're at, but in Canada at least you can do social work with a Bachelor's in Psych. Starts at about 45k/year here. That's not too bad to save some cash for a run at the higher degrees.

I think you're area is an exception. I was looking into social work before, and these days it's almost a requirement to have an MSW. That 45k/yr sounds like a lot for any type of bachelors that isn't finance.

 

[GaimeGuy]

I think you're area is an exception. I was looking into social work before, and these days it's almost a requirement to have an MSW. That 45k/yr sounds like a lot for any type of bachelors that isn't finance.

With a Bachelor's in Computer Science (what I'm shooting for), the average starting salary is at about 50k a year.

 

[pel1300]

I worked at Office Depot after I graduated. I did this mostly because the job market just wasn't hiring. I worked there for about 2.5 months, and then when the job market opened back up I was able to find a new job. I work IT for the government now. It is amazingly easier to land a job if you are working, even if that job is POS low paying job like retail. After I took this job for IT I had to turn down 3 other offers. Before, I sucked up my pride and worked at OD, I just received rejection notices.

Working at Costco for a few months might do you good, but I'm not going to recommend sticking around for any long periods of time.

What makes you say that landing a job easier if you are working? do you mean the way it keeps you somewhat active, or that for job hunting the potential employers like to see it?

 

[PantherLotus]

Yeah--I almost got suckered into working for Target when I had just graduated and my internship failed to pan into an FT position. But jesus at least it was a management position. It was one of those things where you know you don't want it before the interview starts. I'm pretty sure she knew, too.


Anyway, retail is retail. And remember, the lower you start, the less your degree was worth. Leverage your degree with people you know and skip a few positions on your way to the top.

 

[PantherLotus]

What makes you say that landing a job easier if you are working? do you mean the way it keeps you somewhat active, or that for job hunting the potential employers like to see it?

Because employers avoid people that can't find jobs for the same reason the people don't buy houses that won't sell.

 

[Nicodimas]

http://jobpath.com/CSH/Details.aspx?did=J8C0D176XN6B7VTK0TX&csh=CSH_APOLLOGRP

why not this place? Free masters degree while working there...

-Bachelor's degree in business, education, psychology or related field required. Candidates must also be detail-oriented, self-starter with strong communication skills.

 

[Slurpy]

^^^

This guy is a textbook example of the type of person you don't want in your life.

Narrow minded person who looks down on others and judges their choices. Probably isn't too comfortable with himself if he judges other people that way.

You're the type of person who asks people what they do, and if they respond with a career that you "look down" on, you feel awkward and don't know what to say in response. Right?

I had a few friends like you. They were hard on themselves, and hard on everyone around them. Glad I don't talk to them anymore.

Nice tag.

I like how you asked people's opinion here, and now you can't accept what they're telling you. Go work at Costco if that's what you 'want' (I don't really think you know what you want yet). But dont expect everyone here to cheer you on as if its something thats admirable.

 

[mashoutposse]

Your resume is going to look pretty sh!tty when you finally decide to pursue a more worthwhile career.

...Unless your next stop is Sam's Club?

I don't know how people can sign away hours of their lives at $10 each to a corporation for which they have no passion when they have options.

Why not open your eyes a bit? Your carefree attitude is actually a very awesome one to have at this point in life. No family or major financial obligations to be responsible for means that you can quite literally do whatever you want with your professional life and take risks of which a 35 year old guy with a mortgage could only dream. Think about it. You could take a position doing anything that interests you, then treat it like an apprenticeship. Learn the ins and outs of the industry, network with people, take on more and more responsiblity, get generally better at and more knowledgeable about whatever your passion is. Then you could probably leave and start up your own enterprise if you wish and make real money. Or stick around the industry as an employee, but move to other companies and have a stellar resume to boot.

Unless you have aspirations of starting up your own wholesale club retail chain, there is absolutely no reason to waste time at Costco. Just think about what you like (no matter how stupid) and go from there.

 

[WickedAngel]

Nice tag.

I like how you asked people's opinion here, and now you can't accept what they're telling you. Go work at Costco if that's what you 'want' (I don't really think you know what you want yet). But dont expect everyone here to cheer you on as if its something thats admirable.

That tag is fresh...the smoke is still rising off the cows leg :lol

 

[BudokaiMR2]

Hmm if you are really thinking about it, then why not wait around for a management position to open up. Having a college degree would probably allow you to start off there right?

Oh and retail sucks. You will end up hating your job in time.

 

[whytemyke]

**** it dude. if you wanna work retail, go work retail. being happy in life trumps earning a shitload of money. i've been on both ends (well, end and middle :lol) and if you hate going to work every day and working 60 hours a week, then the money ain't gonna make a damn bit of difference.

I'll tell ya guys this much-- I was never happier than when I was working at a golf course all summer. Awesome, relaxing job with friends. Didn't pay well but was ten times better than a lot of jobs that I've had that pay far more.

I've got a college degree now, so I can't do shit like that anymore (debt sucks ass)... but man, those were the good ol' days