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[Fandangox]

Fugo situation did not go down like it did because Araki didn't know what to do with him. Araki said himself he planned to bring him back as a villain and have Giorno kill him, but he was bummed out and got cold feet, knowing the fans would be disappointed with all that.

This is the first time I hear this, but considering how he was written out, it makes more sense.

 

[Matsukaze]

Fugo situation did not go down like it did because Araki didn't know what to do with him. Araki said himself he planned to bring him back as a villain and have Giorno kill him, but he was bummed out and got cold feet, knowing the fans would be disappointed with all that.

Not to say I doubt you, but do you have a source for that? That would make sense, considering the way things abruptly go south.

 

[kswiston]

It's like seeing a genuine Reed Richards fan.

Reed Richards is great when he is written right.

 

[SargerusBR]

Greatest Green Lantern decides to get in a fist fight

Greatest Green Lantern

Greatest

 

[Parallax]

I'm torn. While I was strongly Pro-BP and Anti-Namor in the past, reading SW #9 and Squadron Supreme #1 before that, I'm just thinking "Did he really destroy that world?"

It's so confusing. And the fact that he got killed by a former Avenger and his head was kicked by a petty whiner is horrible.

Id dont think having your world and everyone you love wiped out makes you a petty whiner.

As for the incursions. I think they still happened, but not as frequently. I mean the ultimate universe is still gone, and unless it ended during hunger, the only way for it to have gone out is that way

 

[flintstryker]

Genos from One Punch Man pretty much exists to job

 

[Semblance]

Not to say I doubt you, but do you have a source for that? That would make sense, considering the way things abruptly go south.

There was a Tumblr post about this specifically, someone translated one of the volume releases where Araki explains Fugo's deal, but I apologize, I can't seem to find it now. I know the Jojo wikia mentions it under Fugo's page and I'm sure there was a thread about it somewhere on /r/StardustCrusaders (which is probably where I was linked the translation anyway).

I haven't played it myself, but supposedly the All-Star Battle game even has quotes that talk about him being Diavalo's underling. Interesting.

 

[Shaanyboi]

Superman from Season 1 Justice League. Dude was constantly used as a device to make the villain look tougher. Supes would go down after being poked with a fucking electric stick.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

pretty much Starscream in every movie and comic

 

[The One and Done™]

Vegeta

Take it back or else.

 

[Shaanyboi]

pretty much Starscream in every movie and comic

When is Starscream ever presented as capable?

 

[Future Foundation]

The correct answer is Green Lantern.

The end of this gif gets me everytime.

 

[Staccat0]

That was basically Yamcha's whole point though.

Yamcha's COMPLETE Joke status didn't solidify until he got blown up by that Saibamen, before that, he still never won an important fight, but was shown to at least give the opponent some trouble and in the 3 pre-z tournaments he was pitched against the strongest opponent of that tournament on the first round just to show how powerful those were, and in 2 out of 3 that opponent went on to win the whole big.

You're right... Saibamen were jobbers.

 

[Ultra Numb]

Yamcha's here! Yamcha's dead!

 

[Matsukaze]

There was a Tumblr post about this specifically, someone translated one of the volume releases where Araki explains Fugo's deal, but I apologize, I can't seem to find it now. I know the Jojo wikia mentions it under Fugo's page and I'm sure there was a thread about it somewhere on /r/StardustCrusaders (which is probably where I was linked the translation anyway).

I haven't played it myself, but supposedly the All-Star Battle game even has quotes that talk about him being Diavalo's underling. Interesting.

Thanks! I checked the JoJo wikia and sure enough there it is. Now I'm curious about what other secrets the wikia has.

 

[davidwhangchoi]

When is Starscream ever presented as capable?

hey, i have his tech specs w/ a red decoder, it says speed 10 he kills, brawn, ratchet and prowl...

and he made Bruticus. that's pretty capable right there =)

 

[SixMachine]

Dr. Strange got shot by Hitler's gun. Even though it has some bad karma/juju on it, you would think a man who can stop time and warp reality would stop the guy before he even can think. I think the excuse was that he didn't expect it and put up weak defenses, but this is the same man who literally froze everything in place and casually pulled a weapon out of someone's hand in another issue.

Not just Mace, but the whole crew that goes to face Palpatine.



Ultimate jobber squad.

Everyone is a jobber in Episode 3. I remember Gennedy Tartakovsky got everyone hyped up with his animated Clone Wars. Motherfucking Grievous basically was a multi lightsaber wielding capoeira cyborg that actually takes on multiple jedis at once. Then in the movie he is some chain smoker, even though the reasoning in the Tartakovsky's version is Yoda doing a badass force crush on his chest cavity, so all he does is some twirls with those lightsabers. I don't know what the canon reasoning he sucks ass is though.

 

[Cat Party]

cool actor? Yes.
cool name? Yes.
cool outfit? Yes.
cool character? Yes.
cool lightsaber? Yes.
really wasted potential? Yes.


Anakin describes Obi-Wans intellect as being as "wise as Yoda", and his lightsaber prowess as that of Mace Windu, making you think, - there is nobody better than Mace with a Lightsaber... except for when you go "look Mace, over there!" followed by injecting him with some force lightning...

Not just Mace, but the whole crew that goes to face Palpatine.

Ultimate jobber squad.

 

[gutter_trash]

the X-Men are a bunch of jobbers/
Spidey whooped all them asses several times

 

[MattKeil]

Superman from Season 1 Justice League. Dude was constantly used as a device to make the villain look tougher. Supes would go down after being poked with a fucking electric stick.

The writers even apologized for it in the DVD commentary.

 

[Synth]

What about Baraka post-reboot?

Martial Arts master. Has fucking natural blades coming out of his arms, leader of an army of Tarkatans. Strong enough to be considered among Shang Tsun's/Shao Kahn's elite.

Does not win a single fight post reboot, and in MKX he

Spoiler

gets killed off in a Flashback

If Mortal Kombat is going to be brought up, then Sub Zero must be mentioned. He basically exists just to make Scorpion look good at this point. He can't even survive the fucking game reveals anymore. This is not how you portray a rivalry.

 

[SolVanderlyn]

Take it back or else.

Vegeta is King Jobber. Literally. He is royalty and does nothing but jobs

 

[Jack Remington]

Iron Man's power level fluctuates like plus or minus 500% depending on the needs of the plot and how much the writer hates Tony Stark (quite a few Marvel writers hate Tony). Dude loses to guys a full tier below him on the regular.

 

[PsychBat!]

Id dont think having your world and everyone you love wiped out makes you a petty whiner.

Nah brah, when you're a person complaining about the planet you're living on now, you are a petty whiner. Also taking pleasure in the death of someone doesn't help.

 

[Sotha_Sil]

Worf

At least he kicked a lot of ass on DS9.

 

[Tizoc]

Yamcha?

Only won a single non-filler fight in his lifetime.

How is this not the first post?
Only other character I can think of is Bobba Fett.

 

[Jack Remington]

Vegeta is King Jobber. Literally. He is royalty and does nothing but jobs

Dude lost to Android 18 because he got tired after fighting for about 5 minutes. This in a series where Goku who was weaker than Vegeta in that moment had carried on a fight longer than a Lord of the Rings extended edition film (Freiza fight), and Vegeta himself when he was about a thousand times weaker had fought Goku to a standstill for half an hour.

Straight up job.

 

[CommandThrower]

What about Baraka post-reboot?

Martial Arts master. Has fucking natural blades coming out of his arms, leader of an army of Tarkatans. Strong enough to be considered among Shang Tsun's/Shao Kahn's elite.

Does not win a single fight post reboot, and in MKX he

Spoiler

gets killed off in a Flashback

Reptile is just as big of a jobber as Baraka is.

--Dies in his MK4 ending.
--Gets his body posessed by Onaga in MK: Deadly Alliance/Deception
--Loses every fight in MK9 story mode. He's even the first person you fight.
--Loses every fight in MKX story mode, and gets punked in QTE sequences

The sad thing is that Baraka and Reptile are pretty much interchangable in terms of jobber status, but they're video game characters so they probably don't fit in this thread.


Regarding jobbers in comics or television/movies, the big one that comes to my mind is Worf from Star Trek TNG. He will always get punked by the new big threat to the crew of the Enterprise.

 

[Slayer-33]

The correct answer is Green Lantern.

Omfg LOL

 

[Jack Remington]

Reptile should be way stronger than he is. Dude has a great power set.

Speaking of, Rain in MKX is the ultimate anti-jobber. Dude is stronger than anyone on Outworld and dominates the cut-scenes, but you can't even play as him.

 

[sleepykyo]

I take "jobbers" to mean characters who are otherwise strong and capable but tend to conveniently fall to the villain/hero of week (which in common sense they shouldn't) to raise the stakes and profile. Or just glorified punching bags.

Example:
Colossus: https://youtu.be/ZIM1HydF9UA?t=2m31s

Deathstroke: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b0XY1JibtlY

Isn't Deathstroke less about him being a regular jobber and the Batchildren being pushed harder than Roman Reigns. Like Cassandra and Damian completely ignore their size/strength disadvantage and regularly punk the top fighters in DC. Like Deathstroke tripped the Flash. And makes everyone look like idiots in Injustice Gods Among Us.

I can see Colossus though. Super strength and virtually indestructible. Perfect for getting beat up by the Juggernaut or the Champion.

The correct answer is Green Lantern.

Come to think of it, everytime I see Hal, his energy shield/armor is getting crushed to establish that the villain is a Superman class enemy.

 

[Parallax]

Nah brah, when you're a person complaining about the planet you're living on now, you are a petty whiner. Also taking pleasure in the death of someone doesn't help.

I think being jostled to a place completely unfamiliar to you will do that. And to be honest, id take pleasure in namors death too. Fuck that self centered home breaking asshole.

 

[PsychBat!]

I think being jostled to a place completely unfamiliar to you will do that. And to be honest, id take pleasure in namors death too. Fuck that self centered home breaking asshole.

lol

His people didn't have to be involved. That was just way too much Punisher for my taste.

 

[MC Safety]

Not just Mace, but the whole crew that goes to face Palpatine.



Ultimate jobber squad.

Good choice. Those guys are Jedi masters and they get killed within seconds.

The Fetts are also an excellent choice. The second worst bounty hunter in the world gave birth to the first.

 

[Boss Doggie]

All these comics and not one mention of the jolly green?

Is Hulk the only green-related hero character who doesn't job? Even Ollie jobs.

 

[Memento Mori]

As a Namor fan this pisses me off to no end.

Remember in Avengers Vs X-Men when Namor lost a fight to Ben Grimm underwater? Yeah.

 

[Jack Remington]

Thanos literally has jobbing built into his very being. Sure he'll kill a few supes, but in the end he always, always, always catches that L.

Nah, he isn't really a jobber. He's a very strong villain who ultimately loses, as most villains do.

His best job was against Doom in Secret Wars. That was an all-time great jobbing performance. Doom literally does Sub-Zero's fatality on Thanos. Doom has taken a few L's (not fighting related) at that point, so him annihilating Thanos in one panel is there to show that yes, Doom is still God on this world.

 

[Jack Remington]

Genos from One Punch Man pretty much exists to job

When the title character can win every fight with zero effort, this is actually necessary to prevent the series from being boring as fuck.

Genos vs Sea King was the best fight in the entire series.

hey, i have his tech specs w/ a red decoder, it says speed 10 he kills, brawn, ratchet and prowl...

and he made Bruticus. that's pretty capable right there =)

Starscream on paper is one of the most powerful Transformers. Optimus, Megatron, Shockwave, Grimlock and a couple other normal guys are above him, but he should be above everyone else. Definitely is not written that way.

 

[MrCunningham]

Who else?

This never gets old.

Miles O'Brien, Deanna Troi, and Captain Picard all managed to knock poor Worf on his ass.

 

[Parallax]

lol

His people didn't have to be involved. That was just way too much Punisher for my taste.

Ill give you that. Wakanda did enough work on them.

 

[Parallax]

Nah, he isn't really a jobber. He's a very strong villain who ultimately loses, as most villains do.

His best job was against Doom in Secret Wars. That was an all-time great jobbing performance. Doom literally does Sub-Zero's fatality on Thanos. Doom has taken a few L's (not fighting related) at that point, so him annihilating Thanos in one panel is there to show that yes, Doom is still God on this world.

Doom had to save face by ohko'ing opponents after seemingly shitting himself when reed came on the scene.

 

[1st Course]

Thanos literally has jobbing built into his very being. Sure he'll kill a few supes, but in the end he always, always, always catches that L.

That's basically every villain. Personally I wouldn't call him a jobber, if anything he probably has the most impressive track out of Marvel's villains. If I'm not wrong in one comic he even managed to defeat the entire Marvel universe alone.

 

[Boss Doggie]

You know who IS an actual villain jobber?

 

[Currygan]

lol at Thanos trying to catch Ka-Zar on foot...and losing

 

[Slayven]

You know who IS an actual villain jobber?

Nah he is just a paper tiger

Wally and Kyle defined what it means to be their respective roles. Anyone that denies that is blind

 

[King Gilga]

You best better believe that Blue Marvel will kick his grey area two faced ass.

I read comics and I've never even heard of this guy before.

 

[Parallax]

I read comics and I've never even heard of this guy before.

thats what the government wants

 

[Lord Virgin]

Yeah Vegeta. He actually trains and tries to keep up, just to get rekt by every new villain.

 

[Slayven]

I read comics and I've never even heard of this guy before.

JFK gave him a white woman and told him to go be a family man.

 

[Sho_Nuff82]

That's basically every villain. Personally I wouldn't call him a jobber, if anything he probably has the most impressive track out of Marvel's villains. If I'm not wrong in one comic he even managed to defeat the entire Marvel universe alone.

Thanos rarely loses one on one, and on numerous occasions he has clowned entire teams of heroes.

The greatest is when he confronts Moondragon and Phyla-Vell in Annihilation. They go to start a fight when he confronts them and he just casually swats them away.

I read comics and I've never even heard of this guy before.

He's the black Sentry. Who is basically the white Icon. Who is basically the black Supreme.