Just the mere presence of graphics options hidden away deep in a menu is enough to terrify the console gamer.
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Would you mind graphics options on consoles if it let you play at higher fps?
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Just the mere presence of graphics options hidden away deep in a menu is enough to terrify the console gamer.
OdysseusVA
Banned
AN doesn't let you turn it off. You have "Smart" and "On/Always"
To answer your question, no I wouldn't mind. Options are welcomed.
Sentenza
Member
Apparently, that's actually the case.
People rejecting this idea because it reminds them too much of having a computer.
I kinda see what they're saying, if they wanted to customize everything they would be playing PC games. But you still tweak things like audio and brighteness and difficulty, what's one more setting to tweak for sharper graphics or not... don't hold back progress just cuz you are used to certain conventions. And nobody is asking you have to tweak em, you can leave em alone, it's nice to have some more options is all.
I kinda see what they're saying, if they wanted to customize everything they would be playing PC games. But you still tweak things like audio and brighteness and difficulty, what's one more setting to tweak for sharper graphics or not... don't hold back progress just cuz you are used to certain conventions. And nobody is asking you have to tweak em, you can leave em alone, it's nice to have some more options is all.
edgefusion
Member
If that were to ever happen I am throwing out my console and getting a gaming PC because there would just be no point anymore. A console should be a hassle-free experience, introduce hassle and then it's just a PC.
Exactly. Every console is the same and as such every game should perform the same on every system.
The only reason the options are standard on PC is because there's a lot of different rigs out there. Different processors, graphics cards, and RAM. Such options are essential because of that, and that alone.
Shao Kahn Brewing a Stew
Banned
Yes, I wish they did allow us.
yeah, it's an option you see. Nobody forces you to use. I can't understand why some people in the thread are against it.
I think the logic is that the developers then won't bother optimizing the default settings under the excuse of "Players have the option to turn those effects off if they think the framerate is bad", hence forcing the player to go through the trouble "tweaking" the game.
But in reality some devs already don't give a shit and some of those games already run at sub 30fps :lol
There is no way it would result in better developed games
"ehh it runs like shit on high, yea, cause you're supposed to play on medium"
evil solrac v3.0
Member
it's a hassle to press a button or two to turn on an an effect? wow. WOW.
Portugeezer
Member
No. It's a console.
Sentenza
Member
No, the reasons we have these options on PC is because different people like different things.
Someone thinks it's fine to play a game with 30 fps and high image quality, someone else thinks that fluidity is everything and he's willing to sacrifice detail for high fps.
Then there is that small minority with few lucky guys with enough row power that they can achieve both things without compromising.
On consoles you don't have that choice. If developers decided that 30 fps are good enough for you, then they have the last word about it and you have to adapt.
Apparently many people here think that's the way to do it, but to be honest I'm just happy to have a different mindset about the topic.
but they are not optimised now anyway. My average FPS in Enslaved was about 25 fps dropping to 10s sometimes.
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they are not hassle-free anymore. Patches, bugs, cheaters in MP have destroyed this hassle-free nature of consoles. I needed to fiddle with my router to run MP in some games which is even worse than most tweaks I had to do on PC. Consoles are just weak PCs nowadays and I see no point in withholding some advantages of the platform from console gamers.
Options are bad. They make people confused and consoles are supposed to be plug-and-play.
and other corporations like EA and Capcom. A smart customer = a bad customer because he/she asks for more.
Portugeezer
Member
Get over yourselves.
darkpaladinmfc
Member
120fps>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>less jaggies
that's quite the generalization there, console gamers are dumb because they rather not have pc-esqe graphics tuning options that would just encourage developer ineptitude
my comment about developers not optimizing their games NOW, even without options just flew over your head. Fine. I wouldn't start this thread if I was able to play Enslaved and a dozen other games at acceptable framerate.
also people who seem to think that options equal hassle are not smart, sorry.
Portugeezer
Member
No he is right. Even with PC games there is an ideal way of running the game, just so happens most of the time that also includes 60fps. If you can't run it at the optimum settings the game is intended for then you are underpowered.
The small minority are lucky enough to excessively crank up other non-essential settings (ubersampling in TW2 for example).
dragonelite
Member
I think a lot of people would love to had that in portal 2 360 version.
A friend said it was blurry as fuck. Then i showed him portal 2 on my laptop which has a bit higher res then 720p something in the 1356x846 region i had the game on 720p without AA and medium graphics he said it looked way sharper even with the upscaling.
Not sure if valve ever fixed that.
so your solution to devs not being able to make games that run well is give even more leeway to be incompetent? if a dev can't make their game run at atleast a solid 30fps when they know exactly what kind of hardware their customers have they've already failed. I guess the option being in a game would be good in the sense that it would be a mark of shame almost
Some basic options would be great. At default settings the game should be exactly what the developer intended. It's not like on PCs with different hardware configurations. If the default settings look and run terrible there is no excuse. I can't believe people here are afraid a few extra settings they wouldn't even have to do anything with. I'm surprised they don't get overwhelmed when there's multiple options for controls.
well, it's not like they will start doing better for some magical reason. Make it a mark fo shame, I don't care, I just want to run it at acceptable framerate. I'm agaist the notion that a developer decides for me which framerate is acceptable and which is not. Because 25 fps isn't acceptable.
I think reviewers should show some balls and start marking games down for shitty framerate and screen tearing, hopefully it might embarrass these devs into putting a bit more effort into their work.
Sentenza
Member
No, he's not, and no, there isn't.
Even 60 fps are just a typical condition, far for being an absolute ideal.
People with 120hz monitors, for instance, could have the desire to go above that standard. And what about resolution? What's the "ideal" way to run a game for someone with a triple monitor setup?
Nailed.
actually this would WORK. As we know teams live and die by MC rating and the difference between 80 and 90 can result in million copies sold. So if critics would start giving your game 7-8 instead of 10 like they usually do it would improve perfomance a lot because publishers would start paying attention to this.
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MeisaMcCaffrey
It's a challenge for developers to get games running on current consoles in the first place, and also balancing it properly so that its playable and looks good. I think in the future, the leap in hardware will allow custom options on consoles and I wouldn't mind that tbh. For something like GT6 it could work.
Dennis wouldn't mind!!
Stallion Free
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I would love having the option to turn off stuff like motion blur in console games. That's pretty basic and obvious so it shouldn't scare people.