Haha don't get so defensive there buddy. Roger Rabbit featured cameos by different characters from otherwise competing animation companies, much like the videogame characters in Wreck It Ralph, so that's where the comparison comes from. I'm not sure why you're convinced that any movie that shares a similarity with Roger Rabbit must necessarily be a detective story with live actors mixed with cartoons, because that's a dumb assumption to make.
And yes they do tease a mario appearance.
OH HEY GUYS THATS MARIO AT THE DOOR, HES THE MOST FAMOUS MOST BUSY GUY IN THE WHOLE ARCADE AND HES HERE RIGHT NOW! Then Mario never shows up.
You really weren't disappointed by that at all?
Basically, you can't seem to handle the fact that some guy on the internet didn't enjoy your candy-themed kids movie.
EDIT: Basically, pretty much everyone in this thread can't seem to handle the fact that some guy on the internet didn't enjoy your candy-themed kids movie.
Your opinion didn't make me mad and I can certainly handle it. Your opinion and defense is just weak. No I honestly wasn't disappointed with no Mario it wouldn't have fit the story. Every cameo had a place and flowed correctly. Sugar land could have been maybe 3-4 minutes shorter but it was a great flick. Sorry it wasn't roger rabbit whatever that means you still have yet to really define lol. I mean you say here that you expected it to be like roger rabbit in having cameos which it has plenty and RR did have its own characters that by the end were the focal point just like Wreck it Ralph so still missing your point besides "I don't like sugar land I wanted wreck it Mario not wreck it Ralph "
Haha don't get so defensive there buddy. Roger Rabbit featured cameos by different characters from otherwise competing animation companies, much like the videogame characters in Wreck It Ralph, so that's where the comparison comes from. I'm not sure why you're convinced that any movie that shares a similarity with Roger Rabbit must necessarily be a detective story with live actors mixed with cartoons, because that's a dumb assumption to make.
And yes they do tease a mario appearance.
OH HEY GUYS THATS MARIO AT THE DOOR, HES THE MOST FAMOUS MOST BUSY GUY IN THE WHOLE ARCADE AND HES HERE RIGHT NOW! Then Mario never shows up.
You really weren't disappointed by that at all?
Basically, you can't seem to handle the fact that some guy on the internet didn't enjoy your candy-themed kids movie.
EDIT: Basically, pretty much everyone in this thread can't seem to handle the fact that some guy on the internet didn't enjoy your candy-themed kids movie.
Your opinion didn't make me mad and I can certainly handle it. Your opinion and defense is just weak. No I honestly wasn't disappointed with no Mario it wouldn't have fit the story. Every cameo had a place and flowed correctly. Sugar land could have been maybe 3-4 minutes shorter but it was a great flick. Sorry it wasn't roger rabbit whatever that means you still have yet to really define lol. I mean you say here that you expected it to be like roger rabbit in having cameos which it has plenty and RR did have its own characters that by the end were the focal point just like Wreck it Ralph so still missing your point besides "I don't like sugar land I wanted wreck it Mario not wreck it Ralph "
RR had cameos throughout the movie, and the characters making cameos impacted the story.
WIR crammed a bunch of cameos in the first half hour as fan service, they didn't impact anything significantly, and were then completely abandoned for the rest of the story.
That's the main difference to me.
Oh, and let me get this straight, Kano's cameo fits, Ryu's, Ken's, Bowser's, Bison's, all their cameos fit perfectly but a Mario cameo just would have been TOTALLY AWKWARD AND OUT OF PLACE? Sounds like you're being an apologist honestly.
I thought the characters interacting and the main plot made me more invested and at the point of the middle of the movie in candy land I didn't even notice too much of a change. I also found the candy puns to be quite funny. To each his own.
Oh if only this weren't the internet and that were actually the case.
In all seriousness though, I quite liked this film- I found it very predictable / paint by the numbers stuff with all the tropes present in most of these CG kid flicks but it was done well and frankly that's all that matters to me. Was it the best CG cartoon ever ? nah, actually I found Brave more touching but this still holds up leagues better then most of the garbage out there, better then chicken little yet not quite as good as tangled. More mileage to be found here then cars 2 at least.
RR had cameos throughout the movie, and the characters making cameos impacted the story.
WIR crammed a bunch of cameos in the first half hour as fan service, they didn't impact anything significantly, and were then completely abandoned for the rest of the story.
That's the main difference to me.
Oh, and let me get this straight, Kano's cameo fits, Ryu's, Ken's, Bowser's, Bison's, all their cameos fit perfectly but a Mario cameo just would have been TOTALLY AWKWARD AND OUT OF PLACE? Sounds like you're being an apologist honestly.
Hm, did the cameos in Roger Rabbit really have an effect on the story? I remember it revolving primarily around original characters. The human characters as well as Roger and Jessica Rabbit, the villain and maybe the baby were all created specifically for the movie and I don't think anyone else had a major part.
I believe the Mario reference was in regard to them failing to secure the rights for him.
Of course, you are well entitled to your opinion that the story and characters failed.
Movie was alright. Sorta cute although I don't think I appreciated it as much as some people here. The king of the candy land and fix-it guy were the best two characters imo.
A big part of the fun of watching Wreck-it Ralph is spotting all the gaming cameos--and while we won’t spoil every appearance in the film, we will say that one of the biggest gaming mascots of all time is conspicuously absent. After seeing the film one of our first questions for the creators was, “Where’s Mario?” According to both the writer and director, he was just too important to waste on a simple cameo.
The creators definitely considered Mario making an appearance in the movie, but they couldn’t think of anything important enough for him to do. They didn’t want a brief, 20-second joke for the master plumber--and they doubted that Nintendo would either--so they tried to find a more weighty scene for him, perhaps with the film’s Mario equivalent, Felix Jr., but it never came together. Director Rich Moore is holding out hope that, if they’re lucky enough to get to do a sequel, they can find a place for Mario. Next time.
At first I was going to point out that Capcom could've used the Wily cameo as a promotion for a new Mega Man game, as I presume Sega thought about with the timing of their Sonic racer.
Then I realized, "There are no new Mega Man games coming out."
Vanellope is just a character with an awesome glitch, but is not a glitch herself
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You know about Pokemon right?
You wouldn't refer to Misingno. as an actual Pokemon right?? The movie makes you think that Vanellope is like Misingno (she even has a distinct and kind of weirdish name) but in actuality she's a character with an associated glitch no different from... a fighting game character with a powerful glitch.
And below is the NOISIA remixed Skrillex track as it appears on the album. Parts of this play during the Hero's Duty sequence. I think it's pretty catchy, actually. It's got a real Super Metroid vibe going on before the dance stuff kicks in and then you gotta love that sample.
Has there been any official reason given as to why the UK isn't getting this film until the middle of February 2013? Except for Japan, every other non-English speaking country is getting this before us!
From the trailers I found the whole thing kind of annoying. The irritating voice acting, arcadey sound effects, and how it just seemed to be a huge exercise in fan service. Is there substance? I want fun but not annoying fun. I'm also not overly nostalgic about arcades or old video games. Deciding between this and Iron Fists.
RR had cameos throughout the movie, and the characters making cameos impacted the story.
WIR crammed a bunch of cameos in the first half hour as fan service, they didn't impact anything significantly, and were then completely abandoned for the rest of the story.
That's the main difference to me.
Oh, and let me get this straight, Kano's cameo fits, Ryu's, Ken's, Bowser's, Bison's, all their cameos fit perfectly but a Mario cameo just would have been TOTALLY AWKWARD AND OUT OF PLACE? Sounds like you're being an apologist honestly.
The cameo characters in Roger Rabiit actually had NO importance to the plot or the story at all. You might want to watch it again because you are straight trippin' on that fact dude. They were entirely fan service and all the important characters in that movie were invented specifically for WFRR.
Meanwhile, in Wreck-It Ralph, there are at least two cameo characters that have -direct- influence on the story. Q*Bert alerts Felix and the gang that Ralph has gone to Hero's Duty, and
Zangief's advice to Ralph of taking things one game at a time helps change his entire outlook on his life and job by the end of the movie. Not to mention the impact the Bad Anon group, comprised ENTIRELY OF CAMEO CHARACTERS, had on Ralph as he said their mantra before sacrificing himself.
. Then you have Sonic, who doesn't directly interact with anyone but gives the important plot point about dying outside your own game, which is also more than anyone in Roger Rabbit not created for that movie did.
Mickey Mouse, Bug Bunny, Yosemite Sam, Betty Boop, Droopy Dog, Donald Duck, Dumbo, Daffy Duck, Porky Pig, NONE of them have any impact on the story, and only Betty and Droopy have any meaningful screen time with Eddie but it does nothing to advance the plot in any way. Even when Bugs and Mickey are on screen, Eddie may as well have not been in that sequence at all, it's purely Bugs and Mickey riffing while Eddie happens to be there. They are the very definition of cameo appearances.
Also not once did I ever expect to see Mario. That was a throw-away gag. There was no place for him in this movie, as even the creators say themselves. You can't just have Mario show up late to the party and that's that, or walking in the background, he's too big. He would need to have some kind of impact on the story or a meaningful moment with one of the characters and there is just no room for that in the movie. Have Mario save the day at the last minute? Impart meaningful advice to Ralph or Felix that makes them change their ways? That would ruin their entire character arcs and growth.
Yeah, RR and this movie has the same thing with regards to cameos, and I just pretty much watched it. Right after toon town the whole plot strides in much like Sugar Rush.
And yeah, that's why Sonic felt like a sore thumb.
Oh, and they tease a mario appearance early on, stoking everyone's expectations for a last-minute gamechanger cameo only to not deliver anything whatsoever?
No, actually, didn't expect Mario from that. I thought it was enough Felix recognized his existance.
Mario and Felix were too similiar. I think it would have diluted how much of a reference Felix WAS to him, if he showed up, with his much-superior toolset of abilities from over the years, and then suddenly disappeared so that a "pale imitation" could play lead.
Felix Jr. And Ralph were so Mario & Donkey Kong like, that I'd just prefer them, and their company, to BE the "Nintendo" in this world, really. In reality, I'd love to see more "fake" companies with series pop up in future works, as a basework for a slew of original-to-movie characters. Would be a great excuse for the creative minds to go wild.
Didn't someone say earlier in the thread that they had a hard time believing Wreck-It Ralph, the game, could be 30-years old because it had speech? Because one of my FAVORITE ColecoVision games, Squish'Em Sam, had speech and it came out in 1983. I'm also fairly sure it wasn't the first game to have speech, so 30 years really isn't that hard to swallow.
Speaking of Squish'Em Sam, I wonder if the people who made Fix-It Felix Jr were inspired by it at all? In it, you play as Sam, a guy who has to climb a tall building squishing bugs while things fall on him, and when you get to the roof you're rewarded with a huge sack of money (He shouts "money, Money, MONEY!") before parachuting down to start the next level.
I wish I could play it now. My ColecoVision has long since retired, though, and I can't seem to find any Flash/web-based remakes or Apps of it. ;__;
The pizza parlors in Santa Barbara all have arcade cabinets with Pac-Man and Galaga and shit in them. Haven't seen a Donkey Kong in a LOOONG time though. Most bowling alleys tend to have little arcades too. But yeah, nothing like what's in the movie...
The pizza parlors in Santa Barbara all have arcade cabinets with Pac-Man and Galaga and shit in them. Haven't seen a Donkey Kong in a LOOONG time though. Most bowling alleys tend to have little arcades too. But yeah, nothing like what's in the movie...
during the race scene, that the last part of the track was a callback to Rainbow Road. I'm sure it's obvious, but it was still good.
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Anyway, after seeing this, I really want a real Sugar Rush game. Or a cartoon spin-off.
Or, at least, I'm really hoping these guys (and the bugs) appear in Kingdom Hearts 3.
I forgot to mention that one of my favorite scenes was
Felix fixing his face while getting Calhoun to punch him so they can escape the Nesquik-sand with the Laffy Taffy. Damn, do I want a hammer that can fix anything.
No, actually, didn't expect Mario from that. I thought it was enough Felix recognized his existance.
Mario and Felix were too similiar. I think it would have diluted how much of a reference Felix WAS to him, if he showed up, with his much-superior toolset of abilities from over the years, and then suddenly disappeared so that a "pale imitation" could play lead.
Felix Jr. And Ralph were so Mario & Donkey Kong like, that I'd just prefer them, and their company, to BE the "Nintendo" in this world, really. In reality, I'd love to see more "fake" companies with series pop up in future works, as a basework for a slew of original-to-movie characters. Would be a great excuse for the creative minds to go wild.
I think it's ok. I mean it's fun to see the references, but the central theme is way too ungracefully done. Every 20 minutes someone is repeating the theme about BEING WHO YOU ARE or whatever. It's very Sesame Street in that way.
That said, I wasn't disappointed or anything. Paperman was great. And I enjoyed Sarah Silverman's character Vanillope enough to like the Sugar Rush area. I thought the scene where
the other Sugar Rush racers break apart her homemade pedal car
Tilt. "HOWDY NEIGHBOR!" Also, Puente Hills Mall (Not too far from West covina) has an Arcade/Bowling/Karaoke place that originates from Japan and has newer video arcade games there including some imported games like the Mario Kart arcade game with Pac-Man.
BTW, Disneyland had this really nice 80's arcade going (Flynn's arcade) when they had the "ElecTRONica" dance party thing going. Now, it's been replace by "Mad T Party" And the arcade part stinks. Just hoops, skeeball and that's it. They should do and arcade duplicate of Litwak's with that actual Fix-It-Felix Arcade game they've been showing off at cons, maybe make a light gun rail shooter out of Hero's Duty and a Sugar Rush Kart Racer, add some old-school games and viola! I'd love to check that out.
From the trailers I found the whole thing kind of annoying. The irritating voice acting, arcadey sound effects, and how it just seemed to be a huge exercise in fan service. Is there substance? I want fun but not annoying fun. I'm also not overly nostalgic about arcades or old video games. Deciding between this and Iron Fists.
Probably. It is more of an actual movie then the trailer lets on. Best way to describe it is a mix of Who Framed Roger Rabbit?, Toy Story, and a dash of another animated classic I can't say. Now it does have flaws so don't go in with too lofty expectations but it is a wonderful film. The nostalgia stuff is just the sprinkles on top of an already good cake so to speak. They are mostly in the first 10 minutes of the movie but they are not, wisely, too overwhelming to lose the audience.
That is my two cents on it in a nutshell. Hope it helps.
Just saw it last night. It was a cute movie that you could probably nitpick at to bring it down, but overall was pretty good.
I kindof wonder what the ending would have been like if (big ending spoiler)
Ralph actually died saving Sugar Rush/Vanellope(sp?) instead of getting rescued. A becoming the hero in death that he wanted to be in life sort of thing, and preventing Vanellope from enduring the life of exile he had, as opposed to the regular everybody-wins happy ending. An ending with him dying could have been a bit of a play on the day being saved with the death of the villain too.
That would have caused a problem to be resolved for the Fix-it-Felix game, but I'm sure something could be made to work for it. It might have made a sequel harder though, which I'm sure all these movies try to keep as open a possibility as they can.
Biggest issue with the movie that I can think of at the moment would probably be the lopsided amount of time spent in Sugar Rush. The movie's pacing is very much brought down by going from short jaunts in other areas/games to a long span of Sugar Rush.
More nitpicky would be Vanellope (at the end)
turning into a princess instead of just another racer, which seemed too much of an ugly duckling trope (and meant neither of her outfits matched her picture on the side of the arcade!)
. Other than that, the sudden use of a licensed song during the montage was a bit jarring/blah.
Tempted to get this when it comes out on DVD/Blu-Ray.
I'm not too happy to hear that a licensed song is within the movie itself. Disney has usually steered clear of this, with the only previous example I can remember being the Elvis songs in Lilo and Stitch.
I'm not too happy to hear that a licensed song is within the movie itself. Disney has usually steered clear of this, with the only previous example I can remember being the Elvis songs in Lilo and Stitch.
There was one song that did come off as a bit obnoxious during a montage sequence, but overall it wasn't too bad. Nothing that'll ruin the film for you, I think.
I think it's ok. I mean it's fun to see the references, but the central theme is way too ungracefully done. Every 20 minutes someone is repeating the theme about BEING WHO YOU ARE or whatever. It's very Sesame Street in that way.
That said, I wasn't disappointed or anything. Paperman was great. And I enjoyed Sarah Silverman's character Vanillope enough to like the Sugar Rush area. I thought the scene where
the other Sugar Rush racers break apart her homemade pedal car
turning into a princess instead of just another racer, which seemed too much of an ugly duckling trope (and meant neither of her outfits matched her picture on the side of the arcade!)
Didn't someone say earlier in the thread that they had a hard time believing Wreck-It Ralph, the game, could be 30-years old because it had speech? Because one of my FAVORITE ColecoVision games, Squish'Em Sam, had speech and it came out in 1983. I'm also fairly sure it wasn't the first game to have speech, so 30 years really isn't that hard to swallow.
Speaking of Squish'Em Sam, I wonder if the people who made Fix-It Felix Jr were inspired by it at all? In it, you play as Sam, a guy who has to climb a tall building squishing bugs while things fall on him, and when you get to the roof you're rewarded with a huge sack of money (He shouts "money, Money, MONEY!") before parachuting down to start the next level.
I wish I could play it now. My ColecoVision has long since retired, though, and I can't seem to find any Flash/web-based remakes or Apps of it. ;__;
I imported Squish Em Sam to the UK. I fucking loved it. The hanging from pipes instead of walking mechanic felt weirdly awesome. It was like a cross between Donkey Kong Jnr and LodeRunner.
And B17 Bomber and loads of arcade games had speech before that.
The president thing seemed pointless, as it had no impact beyond a change of title. She could have raced as a princess still anyway. She still had the castle as well, as she offered Ralph a wing of it. Just seemed thrown in there as a random "democracy is better than monarchy!".
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