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WSJ: Nintendo Begins Distributing Software Kit for NX (Console + Handheld units)

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After reading all this, I am super excited basically. Hope Nintendo can pull it off! Regardless, I'll stick with them as I always have, through thick and thin.
 
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It looks like that practice is about to change with Nintendo's next generation console. Nintendo started distributing the software version of the "NX" development kit to qualified publishers and developers this week. We had a brief chat with a senior developer at a major game publishing company based in the U.S., and according to him, Nintendo NX is going to have very impressive hardware. Based on the development kit, the sheer processing capabilities of the hardware (which still hasn't been finalized) are going to be "incredibly powerful" and quite possibly faster than whatever Sony and Microsoft have in store. Specifically, one software demo included with the kit crunches so many polygons that it's currently impossible to run at 60fps using a current-generation Intel (we're assuming a Core i7 Skylake) CPU and a nearly top-of-the-line graphics card (no specifics provided, but they probably used a single graphics card).
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Take it with tons of NaCl
 
ahh yis outperforming skylake in a game console

lmao Nintendo always gets the best bullshit rumors because expectations are made so unrealistic no matter what the specs are you will be disappointed
 
Man, I am really excited for the NX, even with Canadian prices. I hope it is a good success for Nintendo this time around.

As for the graphical strength, I really don't care at all as long as we get all of their games in 1080p.
 
Proelite said:
with ~50W TDP, Nintendo can do a lot with 16nm finfet tech next year.

easily 2 teraflop GPU
+ CPU that runs circles around the jaguars.
+ 8GB of HBM2 memory.

They'll try hard to get something weaker than the Xb1 and PS4 next holiday if they're choosing to adopt "industry leading" tech.
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Why only 50W TDP, and even if 50W, it seems almost too good to be true that they could get that much performance with that level of power consumption. But don't get me wrong, I am not saying that you are wrong, I'm actually saying that I am ignorant of how much could be gained from 16nm finfet tech in 2016.

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euphemism said:
this just popped up on my feed




Take it with tons of NaCl
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Hahaha lol okay now that IS too good to be even remotely true.
 
zeioIIDX said:
WTF. If that's true, my mind is in a daze right now haha.
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Specifically, one software demo included with the kit crunches so many polygons that it's currently impossible to run at 60fps using a current-generation Intel (we're assuming a Core i7 Skylake) CPU and a nearly top-of-the-line graphics card (no specifics provided, but they probably used a single graphics card).
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Should tell you it's fake. A medium-end video game machine is not going to significantly outclass the latest Intel chips, such that its code can't actually be run on it.
 
I predict a 24 core ARM CPU in NX

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nubbe said:
I predict a 24 core ARM CPU in NX
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ARM is likely, but I would think they would halve that number. 8 A57 Cores for Gaming, 4 A53 cores to run the OS and low level functions. Pair that with a decent GPU at high clock speeds and you have a capable machine that doesn't consume an absurd amount of energy or require exotic cooling.

The handheld would likely just contain 4 A53 Cores and a mid range mobile GPU, since I doubt they shoot for anything over qHD.
 
As has been mentioned before, if NX's "platform" strategy works, they could make a console that is below or around PS4 and have something ready for PS5 to compete with.

It's ridiculous to think ZOMG NX BEATING SKYLAKE WITH BRAZILLIANS OF POLYGONS
 
Mango Madness said:
Man that sounds like some fanboy daydream bullshit right there.
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They really need to blow people away with the NX. The Wii U has proven that a console that is vastly underpowered compared to Microsoft and Sony will not do anything even if software is excellent. I mean honestly, what would be the point of doing away with the Wii U if the NX isn't even on par with the XB1 or PS4?
 
Here's something I'm curious to get your opinions on, GAF. Should Nintendo just continually refresh their NX devices like Apple does for their iOS devices or should they move on to the next platform like they are now? And if you chose the former, how frequently should Nintendo refresh their NX devices & how much of an upgrade should each refresh be?
 
It's been bugging me lately but... I wonder how the NX will price their console along with the games released on it?

Iwata (from what I last remember) said he wanted to get as many people gaming as possible. What if they changed the standard pricing formula? It's a total long shot but hey... I enjoy the speculation. :P
 
Hoping that they can return to glory days of SNES in terms of 3rd party support and just focus on making this thing perform and not gimmicks that alienate 3rd parties. Their games are neat but the releases are too far between to justify a purchase for most.
 
DAREALGUMMY said:
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They really need to blow people away with the NX. The Wii U has proven that a console that is vastly underpowered compared to Microsoft and Sony will not do anything even if software is excellent. I mean honestly, what would be the point of doing away with the Wii U if the NX isn't even on par with the XB1 or PS4?
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  • More frequent support form Nintendo since their efforts aren't split between two separate dedicated gaming platforms.
  • More variety of games (no more 2 versions of the same game, like 2 Mario Karts or 2 Smash games).
  • More horsepower within the NX Console & NX Handheld compared to their respective predecessors, regardless of if the NX Console doesn't measure up to the competition.
  • A lower price tag for the NX Console compared to said competition.
  • Probably a shared (or mostly shared) library of games between all NX form factors.
 
Neoxon said:
Here's something I'm curious to get your opinions on, GAF. Should Nintendo just continually refresh their NX devices like Apple does for their iOS devices or should they move on to the next platform like they are now? And if you chose the former, how frequently should Nintendo refresh their NX devices & how much of an upgrade should each refresh be?
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I'm a fan of a refresh taking place every 5-7 years so that it remains like a generation, but retains backwards compatibility.
 
DAREALGUMMY said:
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They really need to blow people away with the NX. The Wii U has proven that a console that is vastly underpowered compared to Microsoft and Sony will not do anything even if software is excellent. I mean honestly, what would be the point of doing away with the Wii U if the NX isn't even on par with the XB1 or PS4?
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The NX started development literally right after Wii U was completed. I don't think any measure of 'blowing people away' is possible in the way that people who want a monster console are looking for.
 
DJIzana said:
It's been bugging me lately but... I wonder how the NX will price their console along with the games released on it?

Iwata (from what I last remember) said he wanted to get as many people gaming as possible. What if they changed the standard pricing formula? It's a total long shot but hey... I enjoy the speculation. :P
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With Nintendo combining their software output, my guess is that they'll go for a more flexible pricing method. For example, smaller games like Yoshi's Woolly World may cost $40, while big games like Zelda or Xenoblade may cost $60.

supersaw said:
Hoping that they can return to glory days of SNES in terms of 3rd party support and just focus on making this thing perform and not gimmicks that alienate 3rd parties. Their games are neat but the releases are too far between to justify a purchase for most.
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That's what combining their console & handheld efforts is supposed to fix. While I'm sure Nintendo will at least make some kind of attempt to get third parties back on board, they should (in theory) have a means to support the NX Platform as a whole on their own should the need arise.
 
Inuhanyou said:
They dont dictate when Sony or MS releases their next console.

I am pretty sure Nintendo aren't all of a sudden trying to compete with Sony and MS on any level. And i don't really think they need to to continue their niche.
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What are you talking about? They just need to be ready. They don't need to go balls to the wall. They just need to have a system there that 3rd parties can put games on.

What's important is that they serious about cross generation.
 
Grampa Simpson said:
What are you talking about? They just need to be ready. They don't need to go balls to the wall. They just need to have a system there that 3rd parties can put games on.

What's important is that they serious about cross generation.
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Third parties aren't holding out on Nintendo because of the power in the box.
 
Neoxon said:
  • More frequent support form Nintendo since their efforts aren't split between two separate dedicated gaming platforms.
  • More variety of games.
  • More horsepower within the NX Console & NX Handheld compared to their respective predecessors, regardless of if the NX Console doesn't measure up to the competition.
  • A lower price tag for the NX Console compared to said competition.
  • Probably a shared (or mostly shared) library of games between all NX form factors.
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You probably should've said less sequels, or more to the point, no more 2 of everything, which is a MAJOR problem 3DS and Wii U had
- 2 NSMB games
- 2 2D Yoshis
- 2 3D Mario games
- 2 Mario Karts
- 2 Smashs
- 4 Zelda Remakes (When TP HD is announced)
- 2 Mario Tennis games
- 2 Mario Parties

This is something that NX is trying to avoid, and hopefully does. Not saying these are bad games (some are), but there is simply a MASSIVE glut of repetition there.
 
Fredrik said:
If the word goes around that NX is significantly more powerful than PS4/XB1 and WiiU versions win every DF FaceOff then the audience will be there, you too, mark my word, and the devs would be plain dumb to ignore the platform.
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Of course they'll ignore the platform. Only Nintendo games sell on Nintendo platforms meme and all.
 
I just can't get excited anymore after all the missteps of this company. I need to see it first, and see how they plan to support it. I wonder when they plan to release.
 
Neoxon said:
  • More frequent support form Nintendo since their efforts aren't split between two separate dedicated gaming platforms.
  • More variety of games.
  • More horsepower within the NX Console & NX Handheld compared to their respective predecessors, regardless of if the NX Console doesn't measure up to the competition.
  • A lower price tag for the NX Console compared to said competition.
  • Probably a shared (or mostly shared) library of games between all NX form factors.
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Yeah that's really the major difference maker here. Getting all my Nintendo games on 1 device. The perception of the Wii U's library would be night and day if it had Kid Icarus, Luigi's Mansion, Fire Emblem, ALBW, Animal Crossing and the like.
 
Neoxon said:
  • More frequent support form Nintendo since their efforts aren't split between two separate dedicated gaming platforms.
  • More variety of games.
  • More horsepower within the NX Console & NX Handheld compared to their respective predecessors, regardless of if the NX Console doesn't measure up to the competition.
  • A lower price tag for the NX Console compared to said competition.
  • Probably a shared (or mostly shared) library of games between all NX form factors.
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Shared APIs and architecture dramatically reduces the time needed to create games.

Nintendo has to be going into the NX platform with the idea that on both handheld and console they have to potentially be ready to go it alone, since aside from indies, third parties may not be on board. (Western third parties they can almost write off).
 
KingBroly said:
You probably should've said less sequels, or more to the point, no more 2 of everything, which is a MAJOR problem 3DS and Wii U had
  • 2 NSMB games
  • 2 2D Yoshis
  • 2 3D Mario games
  • 2 Mario Karts
  • 2 Smashs
  • 4 Zelda Remakes (When TP HD is announced)
  • 2 Mario Tennis games
  • 2 Mario Parties
This is something that NX is trying to avoid, and hopefully does. Not saying these are bad games (some are), but there is simply a MASSIVE glut of repetition there.
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Added to the original post, thanks for the heads-up. And yeah, I hope that they avoid that.
 
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