You: When did thing happen in the past?
GAF: 2001
You: THATS TOO FAR BACK, I MEANT THE ONLY OTHER GEN BETWEEN THEN AND NOW
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WSJ: Nintendo Begins Distributing Software Kit for NX (Console + Handheld units)
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You: When did thing happen in the past?
GAF: 2001
You: THATS TOO FAR BACK, I MEANT THE ONLY OTHER GEN BETWEEN THEN AND NOW
KoopaTheCasual
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And it was the best console ever.
D.Lo
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Generations have always been a mess. With the lone exception of the PS2/Gamecube/Xbox which were released in a similar timeframe, had similar capabilities and were marketed as competitors, it's never really lined up right for more than two consoles at a time.Cool! Then NX is "Next Gen" before the rest (by how many years before Sony and Microsoft become as current?)
It's 2015, we're beyond assigning... gens.
EDITWhat, can't you tell I'm not clumping Nintendo in with Sony and Microsoft? because I believe it to be its own beast.)
We generally pick a winner, define the generation based on that, and then call anything that doesn't match that timeline a console that 'straddled the generations' (e.g. Dreamcast, released only two years after the N64). Unless those writing the narrative don't like the winner (e.g. the Wii) in which case they define the generations based on something other than actual data.
Look at the Famicom in 1983, the Sega competitor was the SG1000. Sega then released the Mark III in 1985, then upgraded the sound in that in 1986 and then released it with the upgraded sound integrated as the Master System in 1987 - the same year the 'next generation' PC Engine was released. Did Sega have three consoles in a single generation? How does that even work?
Nice narrative, they are still companies
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I don't think the third party buying audience is there for Nintendo systems to really make a statement.
The only way I see that happening is if the Nintendo version has exclusive content and performs easily better than the competition.
With all that said though, I don't think they should turn a blind eye to third parties.
They can be important for having a vast library and possibly enticing people on the fence because the first party games are usually stellar.
It should be interesting but I see third parties praising the system, supporting it for a bit and then moving away.
However, let's hope there is one third party that gives their game for the next Nintendo system FULL support(DLC and everything).
So yeah, maybe then the sales will come but I think the ship has sailed on a Nintendo third party game selling gangbusters.
TheHolyTurnip
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Just found this
http://www.sidequesting.com/2015/10/youll-never-believe-what-nintendo-was-just-granted-a-new-patent-for/
I'm dumber than the author when it comes to patents so if anyone can decipher what it's about... Then they could know what it's about!!!
There's images as well...
http://www.sidequesting.com/2015/10/youll-never-believe-what-nintendo-was-just-granted-a-new-patent-for/
I'm dumber than the author when it comes to patents so if anyone can decipher what it's about... Then they could know what it's about!!!
There's images as well...
Lololol
Are those meanies picking on Nintendo again
TheGreatMightyPoo
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Well, it does have some of the best iterations of their classic games and if those are your favorites, then that's not as big a stretch as you think.
It also has a few exclusive classics(Bayonetta 2, The Wonderful 101) that aren't iterations of Nintendo games.
All it needs to be in that conversation for me is a 3D Galaxy Mario game for me(it won't have it though).
And most importantly, it has the unbeatable Splatoon.
In lieu of running off into "secret sauce" debates, i think it's possible Nintendo's trying to switch focus to having something economical but powerful, a la the GameCube, although it's definitely the case that they can't peel too far away from what you can reasonably pack in a handheld for $200.
Is it easier to scale assets down or up? Because i could really see Nintendo doing 90% of their development led on the handheld, but if downscaling is more efficient, then they could lead with the console if they're really trying to optimize their pipeline.
Is it easier to scale assets down or up? Because i could really see Nintendo doing 90% of their development led on the handheld, but if downscaling is more efficient, then they could lead with the console if they're really trying to optimize their pipeline.
Fighting one another will like get the thread closed. I still remember the fighting and stuff that happened during the Wii U stuff and trying to decipher the internal in that tech thread. That stuff got crazy as well as lots of randoms popping in derailing the thread and not understanding a thing about how things worked which caused senseless arguing.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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It's kind of hard to talk solely about an entity(the new hardware) that no one knows really anything about.
There are a lot of tangents in all kinds of threads so it's only natural but pissing contests should be avoided.
I never like threads like this.
Not because of the topic but because there really isn't any news to sink your teeth into.
Yeah, I think that's more what I mean, we should try avoiding pissing contests as that only gets people fighting and derails things. Tangents are not much of an issue and still keep a discussion going. I get you though. I really do want more info and so many are thirsty for more info like the last few pages taught us.
TheGreatMightyPoo
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I'm really surprised this news came out.
It's exciting and frustrating at the same time as we don't know when Nintendo will say anything themselves.
Heck, we don't even know when there will be another Direct.
My guess is we will know more at next year's E3 and that the NX(whatever it is) will be released early 2017.
Many think it's 2016 though.
There's images as well...
NX Gamesphere
They could go for something economical and powerful if it's available. I believe they could downscale or upscale, I'm not too familiar on how it works but their goal does seems to be focusing more on software.
Anihawk had a good post on about some of the strategy outlined by Iwata. http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=181975469&postcount=2158
Focusing more on software, I think, is good for Nintendo because software is one of their key strengths.
I have a hard time seeing Nintendo being silent on the NX until E3. Then again, Nintendo has been practically silent since Iwata passed away (understandably)
As for release, I'm still 50/50 on when. To me it could be 2016 since things keep getting delayed, but Reggie keeps saying that they are going to "talk more" about the NX next year so the plans might be 2017.
Might not even be revealed first at E3. MS and Sony didn't even reveal their systems for E3 this time and held their own thing. They could even discuss or reveal it at GDC for all we know and try to court devs there.
And lack of directs are killing me! There's gotta be at least one coming really soon D:
TheHolyTurnip
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The Gamesphere, the all in one controller for the Nintendo NX Entertainment System
Trevelyan9999
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Just found this
http://www.sidequesting.com/2015/10/youll-never-believe-what-nintendo-was-just-granted-a-new-patent-for/
I'm dumber than the author when it comes to patents so if anyone can decipher what it's about... Then they could know what it's about!!!
There's images as well...
Looks like this will help developers see "running code" as it happens, basically so they can spot issues during game development as the game runs side by side with a visual graph. This could really make things very easy for Third Parties to make ports or ground up games for the NX. Great find!
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
Yeah, is that new thread worthy?
Wow. That sounds like a great feature for developers. Lower costs and headaches for developers when working with the NX means good news for us. I know it's all speculation but it's all we've got lol
I'm not making that thread lol
I think every new patent gets a thread, as long as someone knows what it means...
Remember the Wii Saddle?
Spyder_Monkey
Banned
I say it is.
Trevelyan9999
Banned
Me either, someone else can take that bullet (again) lol.
Something like this would be great for developers though, it looks like Nintendo really worked hard on quite a few things for the NX, we are seeing something in the way of competent power and now on the ease of development side - possibly- if true.
I'd say let the one who probably better understands what the patent is make the thread
Nah we have procedures for times like this.
Who's up for a little game of russian roulette?
Just want to add that with New 3DS I think it's the first time we have Nintendo games that run d different performance wise depending on the device. Personally I don't mine frequent upgrades as long as most games are still playable.
I'm also wondering what if the NX was like steamOS and other companies would also release their own consoles with it? (Panasonic Q)
I know its Nintendo we are talking about but at the same time I think this should be the consoles ideal model, going forward.
I'm also wondering what if the NX was like steamOS and other companies would also release their own consoles with it? (Panasonic Q)
I know its Nintendo we are talking about but at the same time I think this should be the consoles ideal model, going forward.
TheHolyTurnip
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I would prefer that as well, that's one reason I posted it here. The other...I'd say let the one who probably better understands what the patent is make the thread
Is this. I saw what happened to the other thread, I don't want that...
Also thanks for the interpretation
Maybe they have something unique to it *shrugs* but this is good to know. Now no one has to play russian roulette on who makes the thread.
Maybe it's somehow tied into making sure a game can run on both home console and portable?
This has been an exciting day for NX news
Actually, the Nintendo 64 Expansion Pak improved gameplay for games like Perfect Dark and Resident Evil 2. It is still a rarity though for Nintendo
Also gave additional resolution and picture sharpness for Rayman 2 as well which could improve framerate performance.
EDIT: a video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sfBdHf1qXKY
Same device though. I wanted to highlight specifically having two different devices with different specs. And New3DS is considerably stronger than 3DS, we aren't talking about just double ram. We could have the same game look and run miles better in the new 3ds.
Mihael Mello Keehl
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Are you aiming to get someone juniored lol?
Just found this
http://www.sidequesting.com/2015/10/youll-never-believe-what-nintendo-was-just-granted-a-new-patent-for/
I'm dumber than the author when it comes to patents so if anyone can decipher what it's about... Then they could know what it's about!!!
There's images as well...
I'd say let the one who probably better understands what the patent is make the thread
That actually does sound like a really good tool to have for devs and could be great for ease of development for all.
Someone go PM Rösti
Agent Unknown
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Edit: Another weird double post, sorry. Seems like posting an edit from my phone is making duplicate posts tonight or something. 
Agent Unknown
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Wow, that is seriously interesting, very cool find from you and the Turnip of Holiness, there.
IntelliHeath
As in "Heathcliff"
I dunno, why? I meant it's a new patent with article and information which is pretty much new news. I don't know why you would think that I'm trying to get someone juniored.
I'm not right person to make a thread about patent because I don't really understand everything about patent.
The patent is a new thing so it's not bad to post it as a thread but realistically I'll tell you it's not interesting. Graphing the call stack size is pretty standard in many programming tools especially for memory profiling. It's like a slide to unlock patent, I don't know why they got it.
Launch title or I'm not buying the NX. Period
Nintendo: "You made this? I made this."
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