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WWDC10 Thread of iPhones and iProducts galore

Big Ass Ramp said:
Even though I'm in denial, that video doesn't mean too much, does it? Ever if the iPhone was coming to Verizon, it's not like he could have said anything more than that. It was a fairly standard "no comment" response.
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Realistically, this close to the keynote he'd be teasing if anything was in the pipeline. You'd also be hearing mutterings of AT&T losing their exclusivity as happened when O2 lost theirs in the UK.

Combined with a Verizon iPhone needing to be new hardware, it's very very unlikely. Far more likely is the iPhone going to them when it goes 4G, which is unlikely with this revision of the hardware. That would fit with the 2011 estimates, and Apple would only need one version of the hardware.

I doubt we'll see a 4G capable iPhone this time round, it just isn't worth it. Although I hope we'll see 3.5G as that is already well supported by networks like Orange in the UK.
 
Big Ass Ramp said:
Is this true? I thought there was a chance. Engadget even posted something a few weeks ago about the large amount of tips they've been receiving for a Verizon iPhone that have been unusually coordinated and coherent.

I really really want it to come to Verizon. :(
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I meant not a chance at WWDC. Verizon will happen...just not on Monday.
 
DECK'ARD said:
Realistically, this close to the keynote he'd be teasing if anything was in the pipeline. You'd also be hearing mutterings of AT&T losing their exclusivity as happened when O2 lost theirs in the UK.

Combined with a Verizon iPhone needing to be new hardware, it's very very unlikely. Far more likely is the iPhone going to them when it goes 4G, which is unlikely with this revision of the hardware. That would fit with the 2011 estimates, and Apple would only need one version of the hardware.

I doubt we'll see a 4G capable iPhone this time round, it just isn't worth it. Although I hope we'll see 3.5G as that is already well supported by networks like Orange in the UK.
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Tobor said:
I meant not a chance at WWDC. Verizon will happen...just not on Monday.
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Fuck.

Well, I'm going to hold out hope.
 
What will 4G phones "fall back" onto across the carriers? Won't AT&T 4G phones still need UMTS, and Verizon 4G phones still need CDMA for when no 4G is available?

Zombie James said:
Why would anyone do this? They could announce it on Monday but not be available for another month.
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The wait isn't expected to be long and I'd wager than going prices will drop once the 4th Gen. is officially official. *shrug*
 
I'll be mega bummed if it doesn't come out "early".
Who cares, the devs aren't going to come up with anything cool in that extra month anyway.
 
Buckethead said:
I'll be mega bummed if it doesn't come out "early".
Who cares, the devs aren't going to come up with anything cool in that extra month anyway.
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I'm expecting an iPod-style "And it's available to buy now".

Atleast in the US.
 
Part of me is tempted to pick up a 3GS on a 12 month contract and wait out for rev2.

I have a feeling the A4/256 combo is going to be underpowered for a screen that high res (for games, at least).
 
cjelly said:
Part of me is tempted to pick up a 3GS on a 12 month contract and wait out for rev2.

I have a feeling the A4/256 combo is going to be underpowered for a screen that high res (for games, at least).
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Roughly same res as iPad, and same hardware.

It can't be underpowered if there is nothing faster available. It'll be the top end platform and so devs will code accordingly. Waiting for a speed bump may not be worth it - look at the 2nd gen iPhone/touch. Most stuff is coded for the earlier devices so no obvious benefit having later tech.

I'd almost buy another iPad with more ram if it meant less refreshing of browser tabs, but I wouldn't be expecting devs to support it with specific apps
 
Stryder said:
I just sold mine on ebay. :D
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Same here, don't mind using the spare phone for a few weeks :D Makes you appreciate the iPhone even more after using some shitty Samsung for a bit.

Also, I've got 2 exams on Monday, and 2 on Tuesday. The conference is Monday evening for me. So its revision or iPhone announcement. hmmm....
 
I sold my 3G for £250, and have been using a £5 Pay as you Go phone in the interim. I've been thinking I may go for the 24 month contract, as I won't need to upgrade next year if they do an 'S' model, and I'd get the phone for free.
 
mrklaw said:
Roughly same res as iPad, and same hardware.
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Then definitely RAM starved.

I'm hoping we get the OS 4.0 "we totally redid notifications!" moment as the shocker. This is the one area where Apple is so clearly being shat on by Android that I can't believe they would leave it behind for another year.
 
SnakeXs said:
What will 4G phones "fall back" onto across the carriers? Won't AT&T 4G phones still need UMTS, and Verizon 4G phones still need CDMA for when no 4G is available?
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Will it actually use 4G data networks? I assumed that the 4G name was just shorthand for the successor to the 3G/3GS line and it'll be called something different.
 
my iphone 3GS was stolen a week ago so I desperately hope this phone kicks ass and comes out asap!

feeling abit underwhemled though, 3GS was labelled a stop gap before the next big update, so expecting big things from this - but what can they possibly announce that will blow my mind? Probably nothing eh? I should probably reduce my expectations eh?
 
SnakeXs said:
Anyone selling their iPhones pre-announcement? I'm debating it... ._.
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Same here, since i am not eligible for a subsidized phone, I might just rid myself of the iphone 3GS, unless Jobs announces a verizon iphone.
 
I'm selling my iPhone 3G the day of WWDC... just incase they don't announce it.

I got given a HTC Desire which I will use in the meantime till 4G then sell that too I think.
 
kaizoku said:
I should probably reduce my expectations eh?
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Always go in with low, realistic expectations, then the surprises are much better. It's the people who ignore what the D means in WWDC and get pissy there's no new iPods that shit up these threads.
 
DECK'ARD said:
Realistically, this close to the keynote he'd be teasing if anything was in the pipeline. You'd also be hearing mutterings of AT&T losing their exclusivity as happened when O2 lost theirs in the UK.

Combined with a Verizon iPhone needing to be new hardware, it's very very unlikely. Far more likely is the iPhone going to them when it goes 4G, which is unlikely with this revision of the hardware. That would fit with the 2011 estimates, and Apple would only need one version of the hardware.

I doubt we'll see a 4G capable iPhone this time round, it just isn't worth it. Although I hope we'll see 3.5G as that is already well supported by networks like Orange in the UK.
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Isn't AT&T supposedly expanding certain areas to 7.2Mbps 3G service (theoretical speed)? I mean, if you can get even close to half that number in real life, that's not too shabby.
 
I'm in the market for an iPhone and was hoping to wait until the latest was released to jump in. With the changes to the data plans, I am considering jumping to get a 3GS instead--since i've never had a smartphone and have had an extended (and positive) experience using other's 3GS. I would also prefer an unlimited plan since I plan to use the phone to stream live baseball broadcasts (radio and TV) when I am not in wireless range (which might hover around ~20 percent of the day)

I'm really thinking of getting a 3GS today and the unlimited contract. Would this be a good idea?
 
hiryu2015 said:
I'm in the market for an iPhone and was hoping to wait until the latest was released to jump in. With the changes to the data plans, I am considering jumping to get a 3GS instead--since i've never had a smartphone and have had an extended (and positive) experience using other's 3GS. I would also prefer an unlimited plan since I plan to use the phone to stream live baseball broadcasts (radio and TV) when I am not in wireless range (which might hover around ~20 percent of the day)

I'm really thinking of getting a 3GS today and the unlimited contract. Would this be a good idea?
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The new phone is likely to blow the 3GS out of the water with regards to speed, capacity, hardware, you name it.

If you go over your 2GB limit, they'll just charge you an additional $10 for 1GB more. If you keep WiFi turned on, I sincerely doubt you'd ever go over 2GB. And if you did happen to go over, you're only paying $5 more than the unlimited plan.

If the plan is THAT outrageous to you, then by all means get a 3GS. But I'm giving it a 90% chance that you'll regret buying your new 3GS when the 4G is announced tomorrow.
 
DeathbyVolcano said:
Is 2 gigs really that little of data usage for some people? I can't imagine ever using that much.
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The concern is not about how much data is used today. Ive never touched 2GB in a month. What I'm concerned about is the amount we would use in the future, as well as the limitations a cap puts on future app and mobile OS development.
 
UnluckyKate said:
iPhone 3GS is getting -50% price drop in all french dealers and operators.

Did they smell anything ? :lol
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The 3GS will probably still be around... it'll just take the place of the 3G as the low-end handset.

16GB 3GS - 32GB 4G - 64GB 4G would make the most sense as a new line-up.
 
I thought they were purposely overlooking me, but my upgrade was literally just moved up from 11/25 to now last night. I really don't want to stay with AT&T, but I'll tolerate them for another year with a new phone to tie me over. Really hoping Verizon gets it though - not having 3G everytime I go home from Cbus sucks.
 
Tobor said:
The concern is not about how much data is used today. Ive never touched 2GB in a month. What I'm concerned about is the amount we would use in the future, as well as the limitations a cap puts on future app and mobile OS development.
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The question is will they indefinitely let unlimited usage be kept everytime people upgrade with their current contracts? I know AT&T said they are letting users do it NOW, but this all becomes a moot point if it's just a temp thing they only let current customers do for the next year or so. People are gonna wanna upgrade eventually and they'd have to get on the new plan.

If that's the case might as well just not worry about it now.

I'm more interested in how much the ipod touches released in a few months will resemble the new iphones but in terms of looks, hardware innards, and feature set.
 
All this iPhone talk :(

Let's talk about more things like Safari 5 thoughts and wishes (PLEASE STEVE CAN YOU FUCKING ATT "OPEN LAST CLOSED TAB SHORTCUT!!!"), 10.6.4 hopes (Bluetooth fix for when you put your Mac to sleep), and a few general tweaks here and there

Still amped up though!
 
Maybe I'm crazy, but I use to be all about browsers and not so much anymore.

As others have said they've pushed to the point now where at least rendering speed wise they all are so fast we end up talking minute speed differences. Then it's just down to UI tweaks, add ons, and who gets support out for the latest OS features 1st.
 
Y2Kev said:
Then definitely RAM starved.

I'm hoping we get the OS 4.0 "we totally redid notifications!" moment as the shocker. This is the one area where Apple is so clearly being shat on by Android that I can't believe they would leave it behind for another year.
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Totally agree. After 4.0 hits, Notifications are the only thing Android that appeals to me.
 
xcrunner529 said:
I thought they were purposely overlooking me, but my upgrade was literally just moved up from 11/25 to now last night. I really don't want to stay with AT&T, but I'll tolerate them for another year with a new phone to tie me over. Really hoping Verizon gets it though - not having 3G everytime I go home from Cbus sucks.
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Interesting. I was 11/21 as well for the past month, and I just checked it this morning and now i'm eligible for an upgrade on a new phone. Awesome. I wasn't eligible going from the 3G to the 3GS last year cuz I'm not one of the folks who spend over $100 each month on their phone bill. Not that it necessarily means the phone's going to be out this week, but the circumstantial evidence is building for a sooner rather than later release. New rate plans, eligibility dates moved again, etc.
 
Y2Kev said:
Then definitely RAM starved.

I'm hoping we get the OS 4.0 "we totally redid notifications!" moment as the shocker. This is the one area where Apple is so clearly being shat on by Android that I can't believe they would leave it behind for another year.
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Haven't there been rumours of the new iphone having 512 mb rather than the 256 of the iPad/3GS?
 
Dez said:
Haven't there been rumours of the new iphone having 512 mb rather than the 256 of the iPad/3GS?
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Rumours yes, nothing concrete.

Edit: Jobs better have SOMETHING up his sleeve for tomorrow. All the leaks are bound to make some people give a "that's all?" type attitude if he reveals only what we already know.
 
Here's the thing with Apple rumors: they're all just bullshit made up by some dude on the Internet.

Unless it's something like what Gizmodo did where they got an actual phone and opened it up and said "hey check it out, it's an A4 chip," it's just made-up wishful thinking and hopeful predictions.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Here's the thing with Apple rumors: they're all just bullshit made up by some dude on the Internet.

Unless it's something like what Gizmodo did where they got an actual phone and opened it up and said "hey check it out, it's an A4 chip," it's just made-up wishful thinking and hopeful predictions.
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Exactly. But I will second Manics' sentiment. We need something else that hasnt been leaked to make people sit up a bit more.
 
krypt0nian said:
Totally agree. After 4.0 hits, Notifications are the only thing Android that appeals to me.
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This is something I was disappointed to not hear when OS 4.0 was announced so I'm hoping that they announce it with the phone although I'm not going to hold my breath over it.

Another thing I'd like is a way to put stuff on the lock screen and then I think everything major is addressed. The customizable widgets on an Android phone really looks cool on the Evo 4G.

I'm still baffled why Apple won't let you customize notification sounds too.
 
Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Here's the thing with Apple rumors: they're all just bullshit made up by some dude on the Internet.

Unless it's something like what Gizmodo did where they got an actual phone and opened it up and said "hey check it out, it's an A4 chip," it's just made-up wishful thinking and hopeful predictions.
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Unless they're leaked by Apple to the WSJ, or Gruber seems confident about them.
 
PhoncipleBone said:
Exactly. But I will second Manics' sentiment. We need something else that hasnt been leaked to make people sit up a bit more.
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Make no mistake i'm happy with the new iPhone if it's exaclty what we know already based on the gizmodo leak. I'll definately be upgrading but I already know the press will write up some negative articles if Apple doesn't reveal something we don't already know. They're in a bad situation for tomorrows event.
 
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