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WWDC10 Thread of iPhones and iProducts galore
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PhoncipleBone
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I had AT&T for two years and 23 of those 24 months were horrible for me. Dropped calls, voice mails showing up five days later, no missed call notifications, sometimes the phone would never ring for an incoming call. I jumped ship as fast as I could.dorkimoe said:
I am on Verizon now and have had no issues. Granted, I am not on a data plan at the moment, but they have been rock solid. And it is rather easy to delete most of the stuff that comes on it, with the exception of Vcast, but that is just a small footprint that I never use.
PhoncipleBone
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The smart move would be for Apple to go multi carrier. Not just Verizon, but to all mobile carriers. Android is everywhere now, and it would be in Apple's best interest to get everywhere to dominate the market. They could make the new iPhone exclusive to one carrier and leave the 3GS to others.fireside said:
Of course, that will never happen.
PhoncipleBone
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I was on Sprint for nearly 7 years when I jumped to AT&T. I never had issues with Sprint, but got a good deal on the AT&T phone at the time, as my Sprint phone was dying after four years of constant use. I was lazy and hesitant to switch, but the constant drama I had with AT&T was enough to make me jump ship FAST.dorkimoe said:
But the thing is, everyone has different experiences with carriers. When I had Sprint I had no issues, while so many people said they sucked and AT&T was better. Then on AT&T I had issues, but others still swore by them. I only went to Verizon so I could lump my plan with my wife's and save on the monthly bill. Verizon may not have the coolest phones (although they do have the Incredible now), but they have been good to me for the service. Apples and oranges.
PhoncipleBone
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It already has FrontRow, which is essentially the Apple TV OS.Bboy AJ said:
I want a mac mini for my HDTV, but I have an old RPTV that doesnt even have DVI imputs. If they outputted over component, I would be all over it.
CrunchinJelly
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It's a developers conference... why would they announce anything Mac-related to developers?Bboy AJ said:
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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Front Row has always been there, though. I mean, there's really nothing else to the current Apple TV but that and an integrated iTunes store.Bboy AJ said:
How would anyone know?enzo_gt said:
Mr. Wonderful
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Though I'm skeptical if there will be the usual Apple price reduction where the larger capacity takes the lower capacity's previous price point. (32GB was $299, now $199, 64GB at $299). The price of NAND has supposedly gone way up in the last year, so I'm not expecting a huge discount on the 32GB model. :/cjelly said:
StopMakingSense
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Yes, you can upgrade now.Buttonbasher said:
I hope there's a 99 dollar g4 phone. I don't need the space. I cant see apple offering a 3gs alongside the g4 iPhone since they look so different. Doesn't seem like Apple to do that. I could very well be wrong, though
in that case I'd be fine paying 199, but would rather not.Hello, got a quick question. I'm hoping the new iPhone, if it's even announced tomorrow, will be my first one. The App Store's really caught my attention and with a good internet plan (UK) an iPhone should be good companion.
Problem is, the inevitable "second version" makes me hesitant. How much would Apple or phone carriers charge for a 3GS style upgrade? Thanks!
Problem is, the inevitable "second version" makes me hesitant. How much would Apple or phone carriers charge for a 3GS style upgrade? Thanks!
Bboy AJ
My dog was murdered by a 3.5mm audio port and I will not rest until the standard is dead
I've never really had much play time with a Mac Mini so that's good to hear. HDMI would seal the deal for me.Liu Kang Baking A Pie said:
Also, I doubt an i3/5 processor will be put into the Mini upgrades so aside from a spec bump, HDMI is all I'd imagine there is to look toward. Well, maybe also a case change. Black would be nice.
Very excited to own a Mac.
CrunchinJelly
formerly cjelly
Don't go with the networks that only have 18 month or 24 month contracts, then. They'll make you pay the rest of the contract off in a lump sum before they even let you think about upgrading.Thnikkaman said:
Tesco Mobile are the only (I think) UK network that do iPhones on 12 month contracts, and even then there is no guarantee they will have the 4G on day one, or even still offer 12 month contracts. You have to pay slightly more for the handset to get the 12 month contract, though, of course. Their current offers don't seem too bad.
Thnikkaman said:
Inevitable "second version"? The new iPhone will be the 4th version of the iPhone. Apple choose what they introduce into each version very carefully, and most of the updates tend to be very well balanced. It's up to the individual to decide what features are the most important, and about whether any upgrade is going to be worth it.
There won't really be a 'second versio' iPhone "4". It'll just be the next version.
So upgrades and plans are likely to be however the UK has handled it before.
PhoncipleBone
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Yeah, front row is an integrated part of OSX. It is ok,but nothing amazing. HDMI output is the next logical step for the mini though. And whenever Apple starts adding BluRay to their computers, which will be a long way off.Bboy AJ said:
Thanks, guys. I've been a long-term Vodafone customer so chasing after a good 12-month deal might not be a problem.
I say "version" like how the 3GS gained increased graphics power over the standard issue. Hobbyist coding and graphics work for iPhone is something I'm interested in doing if I find a good engine (as long as Unity isn't shut out from OS4) so keeping on top of any power upgrades is something I'd want to do.mrkgoo said:
I'm irrationally frugal with my money.SnakeXs said:
mescalineeyes
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Thnikkaman said:
there's a new iPhone every June. There's a new iPod touch every September. Sometimes the specs change, sometimes they don't.
now you know everything we do.
Thnikkaman said:
I think you mean FIFTH version a year from now theres always going to be aa next one. if you always wait, youll never have one.
and it shouldnt make you hesitant. look at the phone when it comes out. see if it offers what you want in a smartphone. if you can afford it and the data plan, go for it.
its not that big of a deal, to be honest. its just a (really cool) phone.
PhoncipleBone
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Yeah. The nice thing with Apple is that they have a very regular update schedule, which makes buying decisions easier.mescalineeyes said:
mescalineeyes
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PhoncipleBone said:
well for the iDevices, yes.
It's a bit more irregular for laptops and desktop PCs, but thank heavens for buyersguide.macrumors.com
PhoncipleBone
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well, it is regular enough. At least it isnt every couple of weeks it changes. And I second the thank you for the rumor sites. Helped me wait a few weeks before grabbing my iMac over a year ago.mescalineeyes said:
Never took into account that 3GS was one of the yearly editions. I'm such an Apple noob. Never had a pod, phone or mac either 
Became more interested when I saw the new design and read about the resolutions it sported. Plus the 12 year old kid in me said it was really really really cooool.
Became more interested when I saw the new design and read about the resolutions it sported. Plus the 12 year old kid in me said it was really really really cooool.
infiniteloop
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Thnikkaman said:
The 3G was released in 2008, the 3GS became the new standard in 2009.
Liu Kang Baking A Pie
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It's hilarious how easy and predictable Apple makes this shit, and it still confuses the fuck out of some people. This is the world we live in.
mescalineeyes
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Thnikkaman said:Never took into account that 3GS was one of the yearly editions. I'm such an Apple noob. Never had a pod, phone or mac either
no worries, that's why I posted what I did.
also, putting daringfireball.net to your bookmarks / rss feeds never hurt anyone.
PhoncipleBone
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Yeah, the naming between the 3G and 3GS makes it sound like a small change halfway through the cycle. It is understandable to find that odd and confusing. Again, the nice thing with the iDevices is the regular update schedule.Thnikkaman said:Never took into account that 3GS was one of the yearly editions. I'm such an Apple noob. Never had a pod, phone or mac either
Became more interested when I saw the new design and read about the resolutions it sported. Plus the 12 year old kid in me said it was really really really cooool.
PhoncipleBone
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Big news is almost always the opening keynote.Minsc said:
Thnikkaman said:Never took into account that 3GS was one of the yearly editions. I'm such an Apple noob. Never had a pod, phone or mac either
Became more interested when I saw the new design and read about the resolutions it sported. Plus the 12 year old kid in me said it was really really really cooool.
Yeah, the naming conventions for the iPhone are unfortunate - they're not really that explanatory. Fortunately, as most have pointed out, the iterations of Apple products do follow regular schedules (mostly). Apple spends a lot of time and effort into industrial design, so when they do make a change it is much more prominent, sometimes more than it should. For example, I thought the 3Gs was a much more significant change than most people think, and I believe that's largely due to people being unimpressed with no design change (and I guess the old 3G being on sale next to it).
Anyway, Apple products are typically iterated in features on a cycle ( the iPhone being annual) and a design change happens on a slightly longer cycle to maximise and balance their costs into the design with keeping things fresh and interesting.
They can't just make a new design every year just for the sake of being different and new, but they will update a design when they feel the time is right.
I always think their designs do a great job at making their old version somehow seem so dated - like going from the most modern looking to looking, well, old-fashioned, and they do so, so effortlessly.
mescalineeyes
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Minsc said:
Read the OP
btw.: Awesome job, Celebi!
Technosteve
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they need a better looking case
Mecha_Infantry
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New av!
Thank OP, good shizzile...Off work from 2pm tomorrow, so straight back home and eat then WWDC fun!
Wish it was streamed though..
Thank OP, good shizzile...Off work from 2pm tomorrow, so straight back home and eat then WWDC fun!
Wish it was streamed though
..Kung Fu Jedi said:I'm with you. I know the new iPhone is going to be very nice, but I'll be holding off for a new model next year. My 3GS is still working just fine, and having the iPad has taken a lot of stress off of the iPhone.
Since I don't have an iPhone currently, I think I'm going to do an offset 2-year upgrade plan for the iPhone and iPad ... starting with the iPhone 4G.
That way, I'll be jumping into the iPad on its 2nd gen (which historically seems the better entrance point) ... and getting a new product every year thereon in
Mecha_Infantry said:New av!
Thank OP, good shizzile...Off work from 2pm tomorrow, so straight back home and eat then WWDC fun!
Wish it was streamed though
ahh the days when they used to stream
qq i miss em
can't wait to see all the new OS stuff hope the safari 5 rumors are true
also, does current safari have hardware acceleration just not on windows platform?
or not on mac either?
Kung Fu Jedi
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I see we're now less than 24 hours out, and we're going to have to start tempering expectations already. I think tomorrow is going to be all about OS4, new iPhone, new Safari, and that's about it. Anything beyond that will be icing.