It´s certanly possible that they drop out of the console/gaming business in the next 10 years.
Sony, Nintendo, ... everyone could face that.
It´s certanly possible that they drop out of the console/gaming business in the next 10 years.
More inside the article.
"Gamers want the best experiences possible and they want a future-proof system," he told Polygon.
"Now, with Xbox One, we're stretching the canvas again so creators can design for the cloud with every game they make," he said. "In the next decade, every great game will tap the power of the cloud to deliver richer, more immersive worlds. We have a great offline game system in Xbox 360 that gets better when it's connected. We could have made another offline console, but then offline would have been the lowest common denominator design point for developers. We chose to take the progressive path."
can we just ban polygon from this site?
edit for clarification: polygon is just a PR piece for microsoft most of the time. I admit that i didn't read the full article but only because I didn't want to give that site any clicks.
There will be clouds covering the stack so you can't see what's going on and have to remember where all the blocks are. CLOOUUUDDDD POWEERRRRR!!Can´t wait for the new and immersive worlds of Tetris.
Until they are no longer needed yes.
My question is how far will they go with all this? Will they intentionally gimp games that are not connected to prove the cloud is all powerful? Like turn down the resolution of any non connected game or cap the frame rate lower until you are connected so you can feel the power of the cloud? I am being serious because they can talk all they want the cloud is not going to make a noticeable difference to anyone unless they rig the game.
Sony, Nintendo, ... everyone could face that.
Can´t wait for the new and immersive worlds of Tetris.
Sony, Nintendo, ... everyone could face that.
That would only work if there were no competitors. If they intentionally gimp games to prove the power of the cloud, PS4 and PC games would relatively look better compared to Xbone (something that might already happen anyway seeing the power difference).
And who gets to decide when they are no longer needed?
Same goes for Sony and Nintendo I guess.
Well that's the carrot for them to sell their always online DRM...
Marketing. Yuck.
Polygon said:Don Mattrick, president of Interactive Entertainment Business at Microsoft, told me that the decision to require internet for the Xbox One was driven by a desire to create a console unleashed from the technical limitations of today's not-entirely-connected society. Microsoft had a decision to make, he said; either create a console planted in the present or look to the future and create a device built on the concept that one day the internet will be as available as electricity or telephone service.
"Gamers want the best experiences possible — and they want a future-proof system," he told Polygon.
Polygon said:"The Xbox One is shaping up to be a paradigm-shifting console. The question is: Is the new paradigm one people want?"
The original Xbox, which launched in 2001, had an Ethernet port well before broadband was widely accessible, he pointed out. Xbox Live, Microsoft's online service, also went live before the internet was as ubiquitous as is today. A few years later, he reminded me, Microsoft added streaming media to the Xbox 360 and the company saw the console's usage spike.
"Now, with Xbox One, we're stretching the canvas again so creators can design for the cloud with every game they make," he said. "In the next decade, every great game will tap the power of the cloud to deliver richer, more immersive worlds. We have a great offline game system in Xbox 360 that gets better when it's connected. We could have made another offline console, but then offline would have been the lowest common denominator design point for developers. We chose to take the progressive path."
Yawn. Terrible concept is totally fine, honest.
Microsoft have managed to turn me from someone who's pre-ordered most stuff they've put out for the last five years or so to someone who will not touch their new console.
This actually fits with historical precedent.Microsoft had a decision to make, he said; either create a console planted in the present or look to the future and create a device built on the concept that one day the internet will be as available as electricity or telephone service.
And that wouldn´t prevent me from playing the games i bought for their platforms until they are turning into dust.
E3 is going to be fun this year.
An E3 like this only comes once every 8-10 years. He is probably just as excited as we are and has long prepared the ban hammer. It's going to be glorious. 1-2 GAFers have made statements close to ban bets on the POWA OF DA CLOUD TMBish is sitting back laughing at all of us right now.
Until they are no longer needed yes.
Same goes for Sony and Nintendo I guess.
He is likely referring to all the bans he will hand out over broken fanboy dreams. A moment like this only comes every 8-10 years. He waited long enough.now i am curious .
are we gonna laugh our asses off at their E3 conference OR have they found a way to make this work despite everything ?
Nintendo and Sony don't mandate online authentication so your point is null and void
I hate they are half assing it. Just go always online and DD only.
I am really curious if he is able to speak a sentence without these words.
We're the ones that hyped up "8 GB DDR5!" Sony just said it is what's in the PS4.Oh, I know. I won't deny one is a thing and one is... Something else.
I'm just one of those people who don't care about tech and buzzwords and want to see games. Obviously there's an audience for these sorts of things, but with the way people were foaming at the mouth for GDDR5 around here, you'd think Chrono Trigger 2 with the original team was announced or something. It was mildly frustrating.
The power of the cloud is much worse though, because this is PR buzzword speak to an extremely negative reaction to their reveal.
We'll see what happens come E3, I suppose.
Why? This article describes pretty well the problems with MS "solution" and is negative overall.I really want Polygon to be banned. It's an infinitely more venomous site than Kotaku ever has been.
Please be excited.
Until MS do well with it and Nintendo and Sony follow that route because they cannot be left behind.
Sony have not come out ans said they won't and I am sure they are probably let MS have all the hate be3fore they announce they plans.
Nintendo are Nintendo and they do what they do...apart from make games of course.
"Now, with Xbox One, we're stretching the canvas again so creators can design for the cloud with every game they make," he said. "In the next decade, every great game will tap the power of the cloud to deliver richer, more immersive worlds. We have a great offline game system in Xbox 360 that gets better when it's connected. We could have made another offline console, but then offline would have been the lowest common denominator design point for developers. We chose to take the progressive path."
Pure Speculation and word has it the exact opposite is happening.
Also, "Be left behind"? You act if self crippling is an attractive proposition. Makes more sense to avoid such measures and reap more sales.
Damn straight. That's why I like you even though I will forever disagree with you about certain gamesI want a future proof system. So why is it that your system is not future proofed? Why is your system technically inferior to PS4? Why do you keep trying to prop up what your system is capable of with nonsense buzzphrases like "the infinite power of CLOUD"? Why is it that you believe the future only entails people who want to be forever connected to your system with your draconian DRM measures? In what way does any of this nonsense benefit the individual who just wants to get on their console, put in a game and then turn it off?
Aye, this is a classic sleight of hand. If you pretend that the reason you're doing what you're doing is for "gamers", you can conveniently ignore those gamers who your system doesn't cover - at last count, between Silver and Gold, 46 million out of 77 million Xbox 360 users are online. So, what you're saying is that there are 31 million GAMERS on your 360 alone who don't want this so-called "future proofed" Xbox One, and that you're completely willing to forfeit this group in favor of the other one.
It must be said, of course, that this is fine. But it also has nothing to do with what gamers want. It's about what Microsoft wants. MICROSOFT wants its userbase to always be tethered to their system, so that they're completely dependent on the company. MICROSOFT wants users to have to go through their proprietary used game system, so that they get a larger cut of the profits. MICROSOFT wants users to have to constantly check if they're online just to play their games, because they don't believe in ownership rights and they believe the cost:benefit ratio benefits them. It has nothing to fucking do with gamers. And the moment they stop pretending it does, the moment this starts seeming less like a farce and more like the wool-over-everyone's-eyes that this fucking abomination is.
So, how is Xbox One future proofed? What specific benefits does it have to me, the gamer, to always be connected to the internet, rather than just connecting to the internet when it is convenient for me? How is removing yet one more layer of control from the hands of your consumers going to be a net positive? Maybe you just feel it's better to dribble your PR nonsense all over the faces of your past fans, so that you feel a little better about yourself when you do what it is you want to do for your damn selves. Put this shit on us, assholes. FUCK off.
Here's more nonsense straight from the bowels of every PR mouthpiece known to Microsoft. "How will this nebulous always-online internet 'positive' affect us? By introducing another nebulous, indefinable feature that will 'benefit us' in ways that are impossible to quantify! Why, with always-online internet, the infinite power of cloud will infinitely improve your game experiences - infinitely!"
If I was this Polygon interviewer, I would have said "fuck off" and hung up the phone at this immediate point.
"But wait, Don Mattrick, what happens if your gamer is currently deciding to play their game offline during the 24-hour grace period? What happens to all the 'Cloud benefit'? What happens if their internet connection is particularly slow or unreliable, which is a wide-scale problem all across much of the world? How do you program anything meaningful with Cloud when so many of these variables inhibit what you can possibly rely on anyway? What the fuck are you even talking about?"
Again, virtually every benefit you have would have had the same benefits if your system would have allowed some people to arbitrarily decide they didn't want to be online all the time outside of the 24-hour dog collar you put on everyone because you think we're all thieves. NOTHING you are saying is true at all. Not even one single fucking word. So why are you saying it, Don Mattrick? Do you think we're all fucking morons? Don't answer that. If there is nothing else we learned this week, it's that Microsoft thinks we're fucking morons.
Being progressive does not mean abandoning huge swaths of your userbase so you can rob us of right after right.
Being progressive does not mean distrusting every single person who uses your system enough to not have to check up on them once every 24 hours.
Being progressive does not mean forcing everyone to take a stand on renting, borrowing, lending and legacy preservation of games.
Being progressive does not mean FUCKING OVER EVERY CONSUMER THAT EVER PURCHASED YOUR CONSOLES.
You're not progressive; you're a fucking asshole.
360 was my favorite console up until Kinect. Yeah.