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Xbox All Access: Monthly plan for Console + Gold + Game Pass

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Seems like, at least for a limited time, Microsoft is launching a new financing model for Xbox with a 2 years plan that includes a console + Xbox Live Gold and Game Pass.
There's 2 options with the only difference being the console:
Xbox One X: $34.99/month
Xbox One S: $21.99/month

According to Kotaku, the $840 you'd end up paying for the Xbox One X option is roughly the same you would pay if you buy everything upfront while the option with an Xbox One S is around $130 cheaper than buying everything separately


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So what do you think?
I can maybe see a more casual audience seeing the appeal in getting everything for $22 since with Game Pass this would also include a decent selection of games. But then again, it's not like the consoles are that expensive to begin with, the One S in particular. And this also only takes the standard prices into consideration, if you take advantage of Sales you can probably get an X with gold and game pass for less
 
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Cool for those who take advantage of it, especially since the One S is cheaper this way instead of purchasing separately. Quite a smart business model since the subscription is what they're after. Spend 2 years with Live and you're likely to continue using it for many years more. Plus, let's you build up a library of free games.

However, as a business model it is in direct conflict with what I'd personally like out of a console. Pass for me.
 
I'm not seeing anything mention fee's or interest or anything so if it just $34.99+tax a month then seems like a good deal...
 
This will be the future of console buying. Now Nintendo just needs to do something similar with an internet plan for it's mobile console and they would be good.
 
Don't really see the apeal when it requires a credit check and is in MS stores only. That seems pretty limiting to people that couldn't just buy a xb1 normally at this point.

There's only two stores in my state and a nice drive to both.
 
Personally I don't love where I reckon this is heading and I'd hoped this stuff was just rumor but Microsoft are getting better at marketing their customer ownership removal plans.

They want to turn our home machines into coin-ops.

Game pass seems nice now but wait til games become game pass exclusive. That means ownership of product is gone and videogames are just something you can try in an "arcade" that requires constant cash stream to enjoy.

I prefer Nintendos strategy where they physically release a small amount of very high quality products and then never drop the price.
 
If games pass and xbox live come as codes for literally 24 months, I can see people selling those on ebay... i'll keep an eye out for that!

However, it's a good deal for those who don't already have an xbox one, or are looking to upgrade..

I'd be interested in a break down of the terms and conditions of this too, like what happens if you cancel during your contract? do they take it away? expect you to pay a certain percentage like a phone contract? it'll be interesting to see how this will play out...
 
They tried something similiar to this with the xbox360. I remember because it was when I worked at best buy, probably around 2012ish. never sold any of these payment plan type deals though.

Edit: kind of makes sense to do this toward the end of console cycle. brings in people who cant afford big purchases for kids and what not. Can also encourage impulse buys and hook people in before they officially announce the next xbox, which must put people off from buying a console about to end.
 
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If you cannot afford this hobbie, do not let monthly installments for TWO years be the vehicle to gain access. You are far better off saving for console on sale or buying used, then adding games or services ala carte without long commitments. This serves MS, this does not serve the customer.
 
AgentP said:
If you cannot afford this hobbie, do not let monthly installments for TWO years be the vehicle to gain access. You are far better off saving for console on sale or buying used, then adding games or services ala carte without long commitments. This serves MS, this does not serve the customer.
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The same is 100% true for cell phone contracts, but it's far and away the most popular way for people (in the US at least) to buy expensive iPhones
 
Zerin said:
If you cancel you just pay it off. It's not a lease or rental. You are buying these products w/ 0% interest over 24 months.
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Oh okay so just get it with a credit/debit card and then they hit your account if you cancel.
 
jshackles said:
The same is 100% true for cell phone contracts, but it's far and away the most popular way for people (in the US at least) to buy expensive iPhones
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I recommend the same for phones. So many Millennials buy stuff they can't afford and then whine they can't buy a house. I buy mid range phones outright ($200-$300) and no contract on my cell plan. How many of you have $900 iPhones? Unless you are buying a house or car, don't buy beyond your means and sign a deal with the Devil.
 
I'd go for it but I'm not driving out of state for one so its a no go haha. Nice idea though.
 
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AgentP said:
I recommend the same for phones. So many Millennials buy stuff they can't afford and then whine they can't buy a house. I buy mid range phones outright ($200-$300) and no contract on my cell plan. How many of you have $900 iPhones? Unless you are buying a house or car, don't buy beyond your means and sign a deal with the Devil.
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No doubt there will be butthurt over this comment!
 
Believer1 said:
Personally I don't love where I reckon this is heading and I'd hoped this stuff was just rumor but Microsoft are getting better at marketing their customer ownership removal plans.

They want to turn our home machines into coin-ops.

Game pass seems nice now but wait til games become game pass exclusive. That means ownership of product is gone and videogames are just something you can try in an "arcade" that requires constant cash stream to enjoy.

I prefer Nintendos strategy where they physically release a small amount of very high quality products and then never drop the price.
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You prefer Nintendo's strategy because they hardly ever drop the price? Why would you even think this will become a common practice just because they are offering an option? What Microsoft is hoping is that you become an Xbox Live Gold member and a Game Pass member after it expires because that is where they make money. It's not actually on the hardware where these companies make most of their profits.

AgentP said:
If you cannot afford this hobbie, do not let monthly installments for TWO years be the vehicle to gain access. You are far better off saving for console on sale or buying used, then adding games or services ala carte without long commitments. This serves MS, this does not serve the customer.
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Why do you care what others do with their money? You telling people not to game for 2 years is like telling everyone not to buy a house for 25 years and bypass the mortgage. This plan is not costing you anything extra but go buy a vehicle and finance and tell me what you paid over the 3-8 year term.

LittleBusters said:
No doubt there will be butthurt over this comment!
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The only ones butthurt are those who think this applies to them when it doesn't. It's like me coming to your home and knocking on your door to argue with you that I don't want to talk to you.
 
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I think this is a great option for families who can not shell out that much bread all at once. Sega did something like this back in the day with SegaNet, and I thought that was pretty cool too. I support this model.
 
AgentP said:
I recommend the same for phones. So many Millennials buy stuff they can't afford and then whine they can't buy a house. I buy mid range phones outright ($200-$300) and no contract on my cell plan. How many of you have $900 iPhones? Unless you are buying a house or car, don't buy beyond your means and sign a deal with the Devil.
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Really? Jesus Christ. Get a grip dude.
 
Cool. Having multiple options is never a bad thing.

MayauMiao said:
I wonder what if someone cancel the first few monthly payments and runs away with the unit?
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Well they will have one of your cards on file with more than likely automatic payments. If said card they have on file doesn't have that amount or is closed it'll go to debt collections, I'm sure. Just like anything else. Essentially screwing your credit score up for 7 years (the length until the collection falls off your record) or until you pay off the debt.
 
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AgentP said:
I recommend the same for phones. So many Millennials buy stuff they can't afford and then whine they can't buy a house. I buy mid range phones outright ($200-$300) and no contract on my cell plan. How many of you have $900 iPhones? Unless you are buying a house or car, don't buy beyond your means and sign a deal with the Devil.
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I used to work selling phones/contracts and the worst part about this is how many people don't even realize what they are paying.

They see the big "Get the new iPhone with an initial payment of just $1!!!!" ad and are convinced that they are actually paying $1 for it.
When I started I tried to be honest an explain that they are simply paying for it in instances by paying $70 for a cell plan that normally costs $30.

After several people got mad and some walked out ("Well then I'll just go to this other place where my friend got his for $1!!!") I decided it wasn't worth the trouble (and unhappy boss) and stopped bringing it up


It wasn't just milenials though. Plenty of 40-something people too
 
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AgentP said:
If you cannot afford this hobbie, do not let monthly installments for TWO years be the vehicle to gain access. You are far better off saving for console on sale or buying used, then adding games or services ala carte without long commitments. This serves MS, this does not serve the customer.
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Yeah but this isn't a bad plan. If you're good with managing your expenses, $34.99 a month for a console over 2 years with 0% APR isn't going to hurt you. No different than having streaming service subscriptions and most people keep consoles for longer than 2 years. I don't see a problem.
 
Fbh said:
I used to work selling phones/contracts and the worst part about this is how many people don't even realize what they are paying.

They see the big "Get the new iPhone with an initial payment of just $1!!!!" ad and are convinced that they are actually paying $1 for it.
When I started I tried to be honest an explain that they are simply paying for it in instances by paying $70 for a cell plan that normally costs $30.

After several people got mad and some walked out ("Well then I'll just go to this other place where my friend got his for $1!!!") I decided it wasn't worth the trouble (and unhappy boss) and stopped bringing it up


It wasn't just milenials though. Plenty of 40-something people too
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Not everyone has $800 laying around for a new cellphone so it's much easier to just get a bundle with the phone price built in. Here's the thing some of these people on here who think they are so smart, YOU CAN still buy a phone and get a lower plan if that is what you desire. Just like you can still buy your own Xbox One. How stupid can people be to argue about an option? Oh that's right, the same people who continue to flood forums acting like the world is going to end tomorrow whom appear to only be happy being miserable.

MayauMiao said:
This would be a good plan if it was a console launch.
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Agreed. It's a bit late now but if they offer this next gen I might even look into it even though I can afford a new console.
 
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What a great way to get more consumers into the Xbox ecosystem. MS is making lots of smart moves going into the end of this gen and beginning of next.

I wouldn't recommend someone buy anything for entertainment they can't pay for with cash up front. Then again, I'm not going to judge lower middle-class moms who buy X1Xs on this 0% interest plan, if it means the difference between buying their children the "wow" Christmas gift or disappointing them with a generation or two old console they didn't ask for. Lots of moms can do $35 a month for 24 months that can't do $600 up front.

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This type of 0% interest financing enables poor kids to play the same latest and greatest games that the middle-class kids are playing. Both this (especially if it is expanded to online sales and globally) and the Scarlett low-cost streaming box could draw a huge number of people who have little disposable income, imo.
 
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MayauMiao said:
This would be a good plan if it was a console launch.
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Could be a test run to gauge reaction. Smart if so. Would be risky to try this at the beginning of next generation with no idea how it will be received. No E3 or Gamescom announcement suggests they are not making a big deal about this right now. Just collecting feedback.
 
AgentP said:
I recommend the same for phones. So many Millennials buy stuff they can't afford and then whine they can't buy a house. I buy mid range phones outright ($200-$300) and no contract on my cell plan. How many of you have $900 iPhones? Unless you are buying a house or car, don't buy beyond your means and sign a deal with the Devil.
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Could be a good way for a kid who's starting out and into gaming to establish a credit rating. Note that to get a car loan or a mortgage, they'll check your credit first.

I mean, first I'd tell them to get a credit card with a $500 limit and pay it off every month, but this could be beneficial as well.
 
Its 0 Apr if you pay on time and ends up costing less than retail for them. This is hardly some predatory deal like some Sony fans are trying to make it out to be.
 
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I haven't read the contract, but is there something in it saying you get punished if you pay it off early? If not it seems like an easy way to save 80.00 on an S with gold and Gamepass.

Either way it's a 0 interest loan that is less then MSRP. I don't really see how people can be upset about it, but the internet finds a way.
 
KageyK said:
I haven't read the contract, but is there something in it saying you get punished if you pay it off early? If not it seems like an easy way to save 80.00 on an S with gold and Gamepass.

Either way it's a 0 interest loan that is less then MSRP. I don't really see how people can be upset about it, but the internet finds a way.
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It's because it's Microsoft.
 
Nikana said:
It's because it's Microsoft.
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People always lose their shit and fake being stupid when it comes to things MS does. They also always pull out the slippery slope crap.

A no interest 24 month lease program that ends up being cheaper than retail. This is the deal MS is putting out and still people try and fall all over each other to bash it and build strawmans.

The trolling is so obvious now.
 
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mad597 said:
People always lose their shit and fake being stupid when it comes to things MS does. They also always pull out the slippery slope crap.

A no interest 24 month lease program that ends up being cheaper than retail. This is the deal MS is putting out and still people try and fall all over each other to bash it and build strawmans.

The trolling is so obvious now.
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Of course it's obvious. We seen the same shit with Game Pass and how that would lead to the loss of physical games and hurt game sales. The same shit will occur if the rumors are true about an upcoming Xbox streaming system.
 
MrHeisenbird said:
An even better way to get people (like myself) into the ecosystem would be a better first party games lineup.
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not really, the majority just play 3rd party games.. only a small amount care for those cinematic single player games that you just play once and then never again..
 
JaffeLion said:
not really, the majority just play 3rd party games.. only a small amount care for those cinematic single player games that you just play once and then never again..
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I agree these people who keep talking about single player experiences live in a bubble but the reality is single player games can still have major success. Sony and Nintendo have both proven that, but as you mention they often try to glamorize them over third party. Most of those people are console warriors.
 
Good deal is a good deal. I may just pick up a second console this way to upgrade my kids OG Xbox One, keep game sharing the content and not have to worry about live and game pass payments for 2 years.
 
I'm not even sure if I would play games tomorrow, why would I pay for 2 years of gaming?
The target group of this servise are probably people who can't stop playing and people who can't stop spending money.
I really dislike this gaming as a service thing, like taxes and bills are not enough...
 
I think its good but where they really get you is with Game pass. You are commited to Game pass for 2 years which IMO is a long time. Yes you get a ton of games and all of MS's 1st party games but there would probably be times where I would just unsubscribe to gamepass because I am not playing it. I can't picture wanting it for the full 2 years. But if you think Gamepass is something you would subscribe to for 2 full years then its a great deal.

Also to me this shows that the generation is dying down and we will get a new XBOX within the next 24 months. They are only doing this so by the end of the contract these will be last gen machines and people who subscribed will want to upgrade. I don't think MS will do this at the start of a generation because then the console will still have a ton of value for another 2/3 years.
 
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