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Xbox Boss Phil Spencer Calls For Cross-Platform Ban Program
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anothertech
Member
Bullshit. Not to be rude, but getting banned often has nothing to do with cheating. The issue is the totalitarian landslide that follows this ridiculous draconic idea.
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
Well, not sure if this is because Spencer said it or it is true colours showing… so far from the “nothing to hide nothing to fear rhetoric” eh
?This is a.) not about cheaters and b.) even if it were it is blatant cartelisation + c.) how about you prioritising anti cheating in your GaaS offerings first? Ah yes, but then you risk players migrating to other consoles and services unless you can ensure players are banned everywhere and back to point b.)
.No they can't.
Lucifers Beard
Member
I think that this would be pretty difficult to get going. Also, people deserve a second chance, you can’t just ban someone from all networks based on one potential problem. Mistakes can be made and people should be able to learn and move on.
This kind of information sharing seems a bit disproportionate too if I’m honest. I don’t want Xbox sharing my information with Sony and Steam and vice versa. Seems over the top for gaming.
I’m all for banning cheaters and assholes but let’s be sensible.
This kind of information sharing seems a bit disproportionate too if I’m honest. I don’t want Xbox sharing my information with Sony and Steam and vice versa. Seems over the top for gaming.
I’m all for banning cheaters and assholes but let’s be sensible.
ManaByte
Member
You're going to have to erase your digital footprint all the way back to birth. A TikToker got cancelled for something they did when they were FIVE.
DeepEnigma
Gold Member
It’s a cult.
kalecsan
Banned
Nobody_Important
“Aww, it’s so...average,” she said to him in a cold brick of passion
Yep. I would be fine with something like this being implemented for hackers.
PontiusFeeb
Member
I'm afraid that this would be used to ban political opponents. One un-woke word and you're gone.
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HeisenbergFX4
Gold Member
Thats the Pandoras Box of all of this, once it begins where do they draw the line and who gets to decide said line
I am all for cross platform banning hackers but not this
makaveli60
Member
This fucking communist idea sounds good until you are the target for something that is considered wrongthink by the powers that be.
unintelligent orange
Member
Indeed, seems like everyone has no skin at this point. People need to get cut and develop tougher skin, not avoid getting cut.. how does the phrase go, what doesnt kill you only makes you stronger?
What happened to having fun at other people's expense? Survival of the fittest? The smart surviving, pushing the species forward? Take 2 steps back for every 1 step forward.
Killer8
Member
Terrible idea. People get banned for all sorts of bullshit reasons all the time, and the only refuge from that is often to move onto another platform.
I know I should expect nothing less from a creepy corporation who are recording everything you say, but I thought Phil Spencer had a sensible head on his shoulders.
I guess he's just any other corporate ghoul at the end of the day.
I know I should expect nothing less from a creepy corporation who are recording everything you say, but I thought Phil Spencer had a sensible head on his shoulders.
I guess he's just any other corporate ghoul at the end of the day.
unintelligent orange
Member
yup. you either understand the underlying thing or you dont. anyone saying yes to phils brilliant idea doesnt get it.
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Tams
Member
Please daddy corporation, fuck me harder!
Uggghh. Thankfully most companies won't bother with this. Not for moral reasons, but as long as they don't I'm not going to complain.
If you get banned on a platform, then you should only be banned on that platform. You didn't do anything wrong on the other ones, so why on Earth should you be banned on them? If you cheat/whatever on another platform after that, then you'll get banned on that platform for your actions there.
Uggghh. Thankfully most companies won't bother with this. Not for moral reasons, but as long as they don't I'm not going to complain.
If you get banned on a platform, then you should only be banned on that platform. You didn't do anything wrong on the other ones, so why on Earth should you be banned on them? If you cheat/whatever on another platform after that, then you'll get banned on that platform for your actions there.
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Ev1L AuRoN
Member
That shit would make me give up on online games for good. I have a big collection of games that I bought online, and to risk loosing everything because of some arbitrary BS. Recently, I got banned from Activision for no reason at all, just their stupid algorithm that acted out rendering all my progress and money paid to be lost without consequence for them, now image having a BS like that locking all my games across all my platforms, no way, F you Spencer, and F you Activision.
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Tams
Member
Judging by the knowledge shown by their comment, exactly the same.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
But I like posting here...Hmmmmm, imagine for a second that if you were banned from Resetera then you were banned from NeoGAF as well.
DeaDPo0L84
Member
I'm generally against any more proactive measures being taken when it comes to creating a "safer" play space for gamers. Mostly cause it's all bullshit and these companies are just clout chasing, plus unless you monitor every single lobby in every single game you're never gonna solve shit.
Sure maybe you'll weed out a handful of extremely bad ones but at the end of the day I'm still gonna get called every racist term in the book and told my mom has sucked every dick on the Westcoast while playing rocket league.
At the end of the day just ignore it, mute them, turn off chat, if anything we should be learning to not be so sensitive and quit pussifying our country and giving everyone more and more tools as adults to be tattletales online cause they weren't raised right to be prepared for life, it's ridiculous.
Sure maybe you'll weed out a handful of extremely bad ones but at the end of the day I'm still gonna get called every racist term in the book and told my mom has sucked every dick on the Westcoast while playing rocket league.
At the end of the day just ignore it, mute them, turn off chat, if anything we should be learning to not be so sensitive and quit pussifying our country and giving everyone more and more tools as adults to be tattletales online cause they weren't raised right to be prepared for life, it's ridiculous.
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It won't really. I mean this already happens on a game by game basis and turning it into a console ban would be too harsh. AFAIK when you play call of duty you sign in with an activision account. You get banned then that account is banned on any platform. Thing is that you can just create new accounts. If they do a console ban then that just becomes too draconian because it affects other users on the console and second hand sales become a problem not knowing if a console is banned on specific games. The only way is if they do what China do and you have to give your full verified ID when online. No thanks.
laynelane
Member
Ideas like this one really aren't conducive to feeling like a valued customer. People pay to play online on console and the ability is implicit in purchased games on PC - and yet this kind of bullshit is what Spencer thinks is a good way forward. I'm probably not expressing it well, but so much of the media paints gamers as toxic, etc., and then you have Phil here thinking of ways to really stick it to people (and, of course, being cheered on by the very people who label us awful, awful gamers). Honestly disappointing to hear him talk like this. I wonder of it's one-off bad idea or the mask is slipping kind of situation.
Gameplaylover
Member
What pornbots? Never got an unwanted message on Xbox in 15 years.
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Jigsaah
Gold Member
Well I was mainly referring to PS4...but it could be because my ps4 was hacked at one time and my home console was changed. I had to live with that for 6 months.
Fare thee well
Neophyte
I'd rather just deal with people than ban them. Guess how many people are on my blocklists? Zero. Guild Wars 2 only ever had one person and oh god, it was deserved. I just tend to ignore people i dont like.
It's sort of like embracing an 'innocent until proven guilty system.' It's a nice way to protect innocent users, even though some scum gets through. I would rather have that than perfectly fine people suddenly banned from everything. That sounds like a nightmare.
It's sort of like embracing an 'innocent until proven guilty system.' It's a nice way to protect innocent users, even though some scum gets through. I would rather have that than perfectly fine people suddenly banned from everything. That sounds like a nightmare.
Gameplaylover
Member
I thought you had experience on all platform, because you said platforms. Well on PS4 i got like 5-6 unwanted messages, but also no porn. Just some advertising. Still weird, because i was not hacked and only my friends had my name.
The Eradicator
Member
You realize that you can be banned for a lot more reasons that just cheating, right?
Panajev2001a
GAF's Pleasant Genius
They are thinking hard about NFT to introduce artificial scarcity to a platform that does not have it, digital distribution. Imagine if they started making unique NFT tagged digital games and bring back 80’s and 90’s style cartridge production issues.
Jigsaah
Gold Member
BINGO
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