Yeah, as a cross-gen game, the memory footprint of the game is probably low, meaning that they must have most of the game partition's 5GB of memory available for textures, and that's a lot. If I am not mistaken, texture quality is almost exclusively dependent on the amount of available VRAM (and after that the performance of the texture streaming implementation).
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Xbox One price cut to £399 in the UK, includes free copy of Titanfall
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Yeah, as a cross-gen game, the memory footprint of the game is probably low, meaning that they must have most of the game partition's 5GB of memory available for textures, and that's a lot. If I am not mistaken, texture quality is almost exclusively dependent on the amount of available VRAM (and after that the performance of the texture streaming implementation).
Audioboxer
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Depends how low it goes. You've also got to think about the other maps, maybe some are more technically demanding than those in the beta and if the Titans sink the FPS a bit on the beta maps....
But to be fair I'm just offering my only opinion on why it could be reduced to 720p. Nothing else other than technical performance makes sense.
EL CUCO
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Between the textures being improved in the beta and Respawn employees offering to take ban bets, reducing them to the same size as the alpha would be bizarre. The same applies to a resolution reduction when it already hits 1408x792 without any significant issues and Respawn has stated it's likely to increase by launch. If they were planning on reducing those aspects, doubling down on something so easily refuted so close to launch would be odd.
Well, if the final game did turn out to be 720p as CBOAT said, then that would certainly run afoul of certain new UK consumer protection laws. You can't just dismiss an official PR statement as heresay, can you?
@ stktt - yeah, but didn't the XBOne beta run like shit? (compared to the PC one, ofc)
Wouldn't a lot of high res, unique textures increase demands on bus bandwidth? Maybe they need to pull back a little on textures to help get the framerate more solid?
Diablohead
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720p I can deal with as I have a 720 set in my room.
Party chat I can deal with, MS will sort their end out later hopefully.
drop in textures? now that is a real shame if true, probably the biggest rumor there and a rather upsetting one.
That was for IMO games where you could cheat with party chat and tell others locations from the spectator cam, this respawn party chat is so you can talk to others playing the game using their in-game settings, but I have not used my xbox one enough to learn what limits of the built in chat has already.
Party chat I can deal with, MS will sort their end out later hopefully.
drop in textures? now that is a real shame if true, probably the biggest rumor there and a rather upsetting one.
That was for IMO games where you could cheat with party chat and tell others locations from the spectator cam, this respawn party chat is so you can talk to others playing the game using their in-game settings, but I have not used my xbox one enough to learn what limits of the built in chat has already.
Seem to me CB is calling out RS. Simple enough to me.
Release the game with alpha textures after the beta simple doesn't make sense. I believe cboat is completely wrong about this.
720p is possible.
There are posters that are disputing your "without any significant issues."
I agree in principle with you. I don't think the texture stuff makes sense and reducing your resolution after saying it will likely improve is very bad.
That comment was made before Respawn decided to use Azure servers for the 360 and PC versions of the game. They're all using them now.
SonyBoat? Really?
Chobel
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famousmortimer
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It was me.
What we are getting in March is fixes to the current party system which is its own app.
What they are doing, wisely, is building an entirely new party system at the OS level and not as a stand alone app, just like it was on the 360. But that is going to take a long time to finish.
Everything in the XB1 is seperate apps because they were really gung-ho about this "one microsoft" bullshit where everything can communicate with everything. It's a good idea, on paper, but what it meant was making things like the parties an app, and an app requires handshakes with every other app it touches. So if you are in a party of 4 and you all are playing different games the app needs to make handshakes with each game. This usually works, of course, but the more times you have to make requests like that more likely you are to get errors.
Having it be system level, like the 360, gets rid of that. That won't be ready until the fall though. Maybe later. It's a big project.
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SwiftDeath
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Really?
I haven't played it personally. I only saw footage and read the DF article, but nothing there seemed worse than what you see in Ghosts/BF on consoles. It's possible that other maps are more intensive or Respawn wants to guarantee a locked framerate, but it would make their more recent statements very easy to refute. I'm not saying it's impossible, but it seems unlikely.
This really isn't necessary. Even if the information sounds contradictory, CBOAT is generally accurate. We'll find out who's correct soon enough.
N7Commander95
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To be honest, a reduction to 720 would make sense, as there would be no real difference.
But the alpha textures simply makes no sense. None at all.
But the alpha textures simply makes no sense. None at all.
Well, now. Can't wait to not be a Junior anymore.
If they're looking eek out performance gains that aren't possible through other efficiencies, sure. That said my guess is it be a mix of them, and in places where it make little difference.
Either way, it's always interesting when you have opposing claims.
Crimson_Gold
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Are you serious? CBoat has been leaking MS information since the 360 days. He'd leak information that would make MS fans happy, if there was that type of information to leak. Unfortunately, that isn't the case right now. We will see if he is right or not in a couple of weeks.
720? Might as well leave it there and get the more consistent FPS. No point in having it at 792 and having performance issues.
It was for every game type I played MW2 on, including good old Team Deathmatch. Maybe you could stay in a party for free-for-all but that wasn't a game type I usually played.
You're probably right about the new system but as soon as read the CBOAT quote I had a big flashback to MW2.
famousmortimer
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Respawn, like the OG Infinity Ward before it, values framerate and smoothness over everything. Everything. That's why the CoD games and now Titanfall are not great looking games. They don't care. They want a smooth experience.
That said i'm surprised about boat's claims.
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BrokenIcarus
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SonyBoat? wow!
Syphon Filter
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Yea i'd imagine it will take a while. Maybe even a UI overhaul like they usually do but not for another 2-3 yrs i think.
OK but Microsoft has also done a good job generating their own bad news lately.
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