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[i-Lo]

Asymmetrical sticks are better.

It is known.

(WiiU arrangement is interesting but I haven't had enough playtime with it to work out if I like it better or not).

Scientifically proven?

 

[OnFire331]

Why do people seem to assume the Xbox One controller is a re-release of the 360 controller? Both controllers went through ergonomic tweaks and feature enhancements.

Or does it all boil down to stick positions?

The handles seem to be more comfortable in the 360 controller and the sticks in the Xbone controller seem smaller, but I've got to try it out first before drawing out conclusions. If it ends up being an upgrade, I'll buy one for playing PC games.

Edit: And of course, the rumbling triggers and MUCH improved D-Pad are a plus.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Too bad everyone in the world also has to pay the hardware/software that support those entertainment features in that Xbox One price tag.

I can already imagine someone from Turkey or Malaysia looking at the dashboard for "entertainment" and just staring at all the greyed-out icons.

Plus, even if Microsoft has had deals with "41 countries" that doesn't mean jack since they'll probably support what, 1 cable provider each country? LOL.

So i guess you need to pay twice of the hardware price to play X1 games because if you only pay once,you only get non-gaming feature.
When the hell i need to pay money to netflix to play games anyway

 

[Rawker]

Thank god Microsoft is working to fix this in the next gen.

LOL yeah 1 billion gaming fixes, poor Sony can't keep up.

 

[MWS Natural]

Best Controller: PlayStation 4
Xbone: 30.672 - 45,19%
PS4: 37.206 - 54,81%

Only one that I don't agree with.

 

[xXxDieselxXx]

I quit reading when I saw PS4 had the best controller...

 

[Klocker]

Dualshock is the perfect controller.

love you avatar

The handles seem to be more comfortable in the 360 controller and the sticks in the Xbone controller seem smaller, but I've got to try it out first before drawing out conclusions. If it ends up being an upgrade, I'll buy one for playing PC games.

improvements

the New Xbox controller

The two analog sticks are slightly smaller and have been redesigned with new ridges instead of strategically placed bumps. On engineer told me they now take 25-percent less force to move. And then there is the D-Pad which got a much needed design – it’s now a much more aggressive “X” or plus sign.

During a tour of Microsoft’s Xbox Scientific Labs, engineers explained to us that a key change—flipping the rear battery pack 90-degrees and putting it inside the controller — has shifted the center of gravity, making the new device “feel” lighter. It’s true, it did.

The new controller is also filled with some new technology, the most noticeable of which might be the new haptic feedback motors in the triggers, (it also now use magnetic sensors instead of mechanical ones). The Xbox One controllers still have the same two larger motors for gameplay vibration (explosions, getting shot, etc), but now there’s a tiny motor in each trigger, which means you can get new, subtle bits of feedback during gameplay...

...the on-screen action coincided with large and small vibrations throughout the controller. Those at my fingertips were noticeable and quite interesting. While the demo wasn’t particularly exciting, I can imagine the new trigger-based haptic feedback enhancing gameplay..

On the front of the new controller, you’ll find an IR sensor. It allows it to communicate with the Xbox One’s new Kinect controller. While Microsoft didn’t go into great detail about how this will be used in gameplay, it does add one interesting feature. Imagine there are two people playing in front of an Xbox One. The Kinect knows, via facial recognition, who they are. It also knows, thanks to the IR sensors, who is holding which controller. If the two players switch controllers, they do not start controlling each other’s characters. Instead, Xbox One sees that they are each holding different controllers and communicates with the controllers through Kinect to switch player controls.

There is also a high-speed connection port on the Xbox One controller, but Microsoft wasn’t ready to offer any details on what future peripherals might plug into it.

Microsoft has also been putting the near final controllers through a rigorous test where they replicate 10 year's worth of button depressions in two days (that’s roughly 2 million presses, which is 4-5 presses per second). Not only were they testing button durability, but the system also read the actuation on the other side to record any and all fails. I also saw a slo-mo video of a drop-test where the Xbox One controller bounced off a hard floor; only section of plastic popped off, as it was designed to do, so so the engineers could see the real-time effects of the drop on internal components. The engineer told us the controller performed as expected.

also lab technician on reveal show said there was a 15% communication speed improvement over 360

but we will only to use it for PC alas as according to IGN poll all xbox One purchasers can go home now...

 

[James Sawyer Ford]

I quit reading when I saw PS4 had the best controller...

has more capabilities than the xbone controller, and better stick placement (not that it's a big deal)

but I certainly agree

 

[jrDev]

Lol after both conferences who wouldn't want a ps4 over xone.

If Sony comes out blazing "$499", ill just let Sony sit in the corner too...

 

[Rumba]

So i guess you need to pay twice of the hardware price to play X1 games because if you only pay once,you only get non-gaming feature.

You must be kidding me. If you only ever wanted to play games on the Xbox One (or, as I've said, you can only access the gaming features and not all the other "USA is dominate" features), you're still paying for that extra RAM you won't get to use, that extra HDMI slot you won't get to use, and whatever hardware they added in to be able to use your TV and software to multitask. You're paying the same price as someone in the US yet you're missing out on half of the features. This isn't about paying twice, it's about paying the same price and getting less features.

 

[i-Lo]

If Sony comes out blazing "$499", ill just let Sony sit in the corner too...

Well that and Xbone will both have a version that'll feature that price point.

 

[xXxDieselxXx]

has more capabilities than the xbone controller, and better stick placement (not that it's a big deal)

but I certainly agree

I disagree regarding stick placement. I think Xbox has it right on.

However yes, it looks like the PS4 controller has more gadgets.

 

[Caja 117]

LOL yeah 1 billion gaming fixes, poor Sony can't keep up.

Too bad a lot of money doesnt equal Quality games. I own a 360 and not a ps3 so i can tell from experience.

At least Im going to be able to Switch from TV to a Game really quick.

 

[NullPointer]

IGN is Sonyland confirmed.

The internet has a well known Sony bias.

I'd love for the PS4 controller to be as good as the bone's, but I don't believe it.

 

[Omnistalgic]

I voted for Xbox controller, genuinely shocked. It's superior in almost every way now.

wtf is up with these Xbox controller post??! seriously this stuff is kinda insulting....


@GAF wake the fuck up!!! Not everyone loves and adores the stick layout on Xbox. Just because some big sites like ign or game trailers gave the nod to 360's pad does not means its the gamer standard. I'll reiterate, I hate almost everything about the 360 pad besides the weight and thicker handles. I don't like the squishy buttons the stick layout the triggers, even the giant green home button in the middle is quite appalling.and omg thst fn dpad!!! its atrocious!!! and these opinions are not some strange minute segment of the gaming industry. my fighting game community will echo the same sentiments as well as many action game enthusiast. this just has to stop....360 pad layout is nothing more but people preference...PERIOD and its quite ignorant to assume other wise


sorry for the language but for some reason I find these post genuinely insulting...

 

[Naked Lunch]

are you sure it's not the ergonomics, controller size, stick feel/response, concave grips, weird triggers, etc? i honestly don't understand the hate for symmetrical layout.

How hard is to understand that the analog should be where the dpad is? Ive been forced to use dual shocks since PS1 - I'm sure I dont like them.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

You must be kidding me. If you only ever wanted to play games on the Xbox One (or, as I've said, you can only access the gaming features and not all the other "USA is dominate" features), you're still paying for that extra RAM you won't get to use, that extra HDMI slot you won't get to use, and whatever hardware they added in to be able to use your TV and software to multitask. You're paying the same price as someone in the US yet you're missing out on half of the features. This isn't about paying twice, it's about paying the same price and getting less features.

I look at my 360 and PS3
-I didn't use wifi
-I didn't use component cable
-I didn't use more than one USB cable
-I didn't use browser in both consoles
-And many more software and app from both consoles i didn't use

Holy crap i guess i need to call MS and Sony give me back at least 50% of my money


Play games or can't play games,what less features anyway?
Oh and i don't "use" RAM anyway,it's for developers,i use controller,then play games.

 

[EdReedFan20]

PS4 winning the controller portion surprised me (even though I voted for it). While I've always loved both stick layouts, I figured that XB1 would win the controller portion just due to the popularity of the XBOX/XBOX 360 controllers.

 

[ihearthawthats]

How hard is to understand that the analog should be where the dpad is? Ive been forced to use dual shocks since PS1 - I'm sure I dont like them.

neither of those points address symmetry. 1. it can be where the dpad is and still be symmetrical. 2. symmetrical layout does not entail dualshock.

 

[ChosenPredator]

PS4 winning best controller bothered the living hell out of me i don't know why but it deserved to win everything else thats for sure.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Console War is over. Majority of consumers have spoken.

You must be kidding me. If you only ever wanted to play games on the Xbox One (or, as I've said, you can only access the gaming features and not all the other "USA is dominate" features), you're still paying for that extra RAM you won't get to use, that extra HDMI slot you won't get to use, and whatever hardware they added in to be able to use your TV and software to multitask. You're paying the same price as someone in the US yet you're missing out on half of the features. This isn't about paying twice, it's about paying the same price and getting less features.

I quoted this because of how hilariously console warriorish it is. Take it from my main man Rumba, if you don't live in the USA your Xbox One apparently can't multi-task, can't utilize the console's operating system, and can't use any of the software applications that are capable of being run on an Xbox One.

 

[Prologue]

PS4 winning best controller bothered the living hell out of me i don't know why but it deserved to win everything else thats for sure.

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Funny thing is that it was the closest category.

 

[Rumba]

I look at my 360 and PS3
-I didn't use wifi
-I didn't use component cable
-I didn't use more than one USB cable
-I didn't use browser in both consoles
-And many more software and app from both consoles i didn't use

Holy crap i guess i need to call MS and Sony give me back at least 50% of my money


Play games or can't play games,what less features anyway?
Oh and i don't "use" RAM anyway,developers use,i use controller,then play games.

Oh please.

You didn't use wi-fi yet you used wired.
Didn't use component yet you used HDMI.
Etc.

Meanwhile, on the Xbox One you'll get locked out of the hardware. You won't be able to use the 1Gb (or more) reserved for the entertainment features which you could've used to get better framerate. That's different from not using the component cable because you'll use the superior HDMI slot. Not even close.

The price of the Xbone comes with the cost of having these different hardware features that is useless to you, because you won't even get to use them at all. Having wired and wireless is an option. You didn't use wireless yet you are ABLE to use it should you choose to. Learn the difference.

 

[Tricky I Shadow]

Yep....all seems about right.

Spoiler

Except the better controller.

 

[Liha]

I hope the sales will be like this poll.

 

[Camp Lo]

wtf is up with these Xbox controller post??! seriously this stuff is kinda insulting....


@GAF wake the fuck up!!! Not everyone loves and adores the stick layout on Xbox. Just because some big sites like ign or game trailers gave the nod to 360's pad does not means its the gamer standard. I'll reiterate, I hate almost everything about the 360 pad besides the weight and thicker handles. I don't like the squishy buttons the stick layout the triggers, even the giant green home button in the middle is quite appalling.and omg thst fn dpad!!! its atrocious!!! and these opinions are not some strange minute segment of the gaming industry. my fighting game community will echo the same sentiments as well as many action game enthusiast. this just has to stop....360 pad layout is nothing more but people preference...PERIOD and its quite ignorant to assume other wise


sorry for the language but for some reason I find these post genuinely insulting...

Not sure what was so insulting about what I said. So... whats the deal?

 

[DC1]

PS4 winning best controller bothered the living hell out of me i don't know why but it deserved to win everything else thats for sure.

Because your hands are in love with the 360 controller and there is nothing wrong with that.

My hands are in love with the DS3.

and my cousin is in love with hard liqueur and a creature not of this earth.

We all have are biases.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

Oh please.

You didn't use wi-fi yet you used wired.
Didn't use component yet you used HDMI.
Etc.

Meanwhile, on the Xbox One you'll get locked out of the hardware. You won't be able to use the 1Gb (or more) reserved for the entertainment features which you could've used to get better framerate. That's different from not using the component cable because you'll use the superior HDMI slot. Not even close.

The price of the Xbone comes with the cost of having these different hardware features that is useless to you, because you won't even get to use them at all. Having wired and wireless is an option. You didn't use wireless yet you are ABLE to use it should you choose to. Learn the difference.

 

[borghe]

Another "really dislike the 360 controller and stick placement" vote here. Dual analog 3d games are 1000 times more fluid with the symmetrical sticks.

 

[Wynnebeck]

Asymmetrical sticks are better.
It is known.

I use my Xbox controller for PC gaming a lot but I'd rather play on a DS.

 

[DC1]

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Funny thing is that it was the closest category.

Ah.. is that the Illusive man (your avatar)?

 

[IHaveCandy]

I believe people don't really want asymmetrical sticks. That's not what makes them prefer the 360 over the PS3 controller. It's the spacing. For some, the spacing on the Dualshock are too close. This causes them to bump thumbs. With more spaced out sticks, this shouldn't be a problem on DS4. I can't think people can aim better because of asymmetry when both controllers have the stick for aiming in the exact same spot.

 

[DC1]

Asymmetrical sticks are better.

It is known.

It is known.. but I do love the sea. .. and not so much raiding.

 

[140.85]

On my GOSH this is amazing.

 

[Rumba]

How hard is to understand that the analog should be where the dpad is? Ive been forced to use dual shocks since PS1 - I'm sure I dont like them.

You don't like them therefore it doesn't make sense that a lot of people like the Dualshock form factor more?

The asymmetrical format doesn't mean jack. It's preference. There's no point in arguing that "it's worse" on the sole basis that you happen to not like it. Guess what, a lot of people like it more, according to the results. How hard is it to understand that people prefer one controller over another? This isn't a matter of factual evidence because there's no falsifiable or testable way of judging the quality of the feel of a controller. What's "natural" to you is "unnatural" for someone else.

 

[Maximilian Kolbe]

Oh please.

You didn't use wi-fi yet you used wired.
Didn't use component yet you used HDMI.
Etc.

Meanwhile, on the Xbox One you'll get locked out of the hardware. You won't be able to use the 1Gb (or more) reserved for the entertainment features which you could've used to get better framerate. That's different from not using the component cable because you'll use the superior HDMI slot. Not even close.

The price of the Xbone comes with the cost of having these different hardware features that is useless to you, because you won't even get to use them at all. Having wired and wireless is an option. You didn't use wireless yet you are ABLE to use it should you choose to. Learn the difference.

So how do you know i will never use anything you think it's "useless" in the console?
And better framerate(or graphic)s is up to how is the developers,not me,and the fact is if i'm so care about that i will buy a good PC...wait actually i have a good PC lol.

How do you already know the price anyway,and it seems you already know PS4 doesn't have any media feature?btw,most gamer(in here at least) buy a console is because they think there are one or some games they really want to play,not keep fuss "oh this one seems useful,oh this one is useless" and then "that's it i'm gonna/not gonna buy this console because X feature useful for me and X feature useless for me!"<-how many people will do that seriously?

 

[Rumba]

What's funny? More RAM can net you a better framerate. If you can't use that 1GB of RAM reserved for the other Xbone OS, might as well delete the software and have the RAM used for gaming software. Of course that's not going to happen obviously, but I don't see the point of you laughing.

 

[gfunkera]

I've never understood the hate for the DS3. I prefer it only because the joysticks are in the middle which is ergonomically correct with your thumbs placement in a relaxed state.

And luckily the PS4 controller will have the concave ends, so for me, I'm happy.

 

[NullPointer]

Asymmetrical sticks are better.

It is known.

 

[SenjutsuSage]

What's funny? More RAM can net you a better framerate. If you can't use that 1GB of RAM reserved for the other Xbone OS, might as well delete the software and have the RAM used for gaming software. Of course that's not going to happen obviously, but I don't see the point of you laughing.

RAM can be important, yes, but in the context that you brought it up, and in relation to the hardware inside of the One, or even the PS4 to use that as an example as well, 1 extra GB, or even slightly more, will not make anywhere near the kind of difference to framerate as you seem to be trying to imply it will. One extra compute unit or even more memory bandwidth would be more important. 5GB is quite a hefty amount for games. It's putting too big a focus on ram and framerate, especially when a nice chunk of the PS4's ram will not have any impact whatsoever on framerate. It will be used to improve load times or erase them altogether, or it will be used to store things like unique ai behaviors among other things. The ram isn't all about framerate. Xbox One games will have access to more than enough ram where ram will simply not be a significant bottleneck to framerate performance in games. It will affect other things more.

Also, the One's tv capabilities are just one aspect of the console's features. It isn't as big a piece as you're trying to make it out to seem. The Xbox One's OS is capable of providing far more than just some television viewing. In the same context that you describe HDMI or Component as an option for people, that's all support for tv set top boxes represents for the One. An option for customers who can and want to take advantage of it.

 

[DC1]

I've never understood the hate for the DS3. I prefer it only because the joysticks are in the middle which is ergonomically correct with your thumbs placement in a relaxed state.

And luckily the PS4 controller will have the concave ends, so for me, I'm happy.

Finally, a correct written representation of ergonomically correct joystick placement.

 

[DC1]

Nice,
"It is known" is very prominent in the books. Always.. with consigning agreement.

 

[Rumba]

RAM can be important, yes, but in the context that you brought it up, and in relation to the hardware inside of the One, or even the PS4 to use that as an example as well, 1 extra GB, or even slightly more, will not make anywhere near the kind of difference to framerate as you seem to be trying to imply it will.

I never implied any "big differences" a la 30 to 60 fps so your point is moot.

If, however, Ninja Theory makes a game for the Xbone then that 1GB of RAM should come in useful since 25 fps to 30 fps is huge (and I'm using it in that context).

 

[VanWinkle]

Why do people seem to assume the Xbox One controller is a re-release of the 360 controller? Both controllers went through ergonomic tweaks and feature enhancements.

Or does it all boil down to stick positions?

Not exactly the same, but close.

Stick placement. They had their shot to change it. Not dealing with another dual shock layout yet again - my most despised controller for 3d gaming.

This is absolutely hilarious to me, and more than a little sad. Of all the things to care about with the controller, you won't buy the console because the left analog stick is an inch lower than you'd like it to be.

 

[Omnistalgic]

Not sure what was so insulting about what I said. So... whats the deal?

its not ur post in particular.
it's the culmination of these post that suggest its absurd that anyone would prefer the ds4 ergonomics over the xbox...its all just personal preference... have some perspective...it was more coincidence that I quoted you really.... I'm speaking generally

 

[Sami+]

It's funny, I always thought that symmetrical layouts were considered preferable for the most part; it's a bit odd seeing all the hostility, haha.

I've been gaming with Dualshock since I was a little kid, so it's basically become the perfect layout for me. I prefer it over everything else, to be honest. The 360 controller isn't bad, though it does feel a bit bulky to me.

And asymmetrical sticks just ain't right, I tell ya what.

Does make sense that the controllers would be the closest choice though; there really isn't much that can be objective about it. You just like what you like.

 

[VanWinkle]

It's funny, I always thought that symmetrical layouts were considered preferable for the most part; it's a bit odd seeing all the hostility, haha.

I've been gaming with Dualshock since I was a little kid, so it's basically become the perfect layout for me. I prefer it over everything else, to be honest. The 360 controller isn't bad, though it does feel a bit bulky to me.

And asymmetrical sticks just ain't right, I tell ya what.

Does make sense that the controllers would be the closest choice though; there really isn't much that can be objective about it. You just like what you like.

I understand preferences, but that should be the LEAST important factor of a controller. I mean, if you like them symmetric or asymmetric better, that's fine, but who cares that much really? It's not a big deal at all.

 

[Pimpbaa]

This is absolutely hilarious to me, and more than a little sad. Of all the things to care about with the controller, you won't buy the console because the left analog stick is an inch lower than you'd like it to be.

Perhaps the worst excuse why a person won't get a system. You would have to be truly incompetent to not be able to adjust to such a minor change in position.

 

[Karsticles]

I hope they redo the poll after E3.

 

[Woo-Fu]

I understand preferences, but that should be the LEAST important factor of a controller. I mean, if you like them symmetric or asymmetric better, that's fine, but who cares that much really? It's not a big deal at all.

It becomes a big deal when running out of reasons to wave your brand flag with pride.