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Xbox Series S has 363GB of usable storage

If we say that 64 GB is the baseline for phones (PS5 is about 640 GB, so it's an easy comparison), the XSX would have 82 GB and the XSS would have 36 GB of internal storage. That seems reasonable.
Unless you wanna have three of the most popular games on the market installed at once like Destiny 2 (over 100GB iirc), GTA V (over 80GB) and COD+Warzone (between 150 and 200GB?), and that's without taking into account that Series S is being marketed as a Game Pass machine, so you'll want to have at least some games from Xbox Game Studios (either Starfield, Gears, Forza or Fable for instance) installed as well.
 
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Hopefully someone does a video on which console fills their storage faster; the XSS with lower quality textures or the PS5 with higher quality textures. That'd be cool to see! :messenger_grinning_squinting:
 
Unless you wanna have three of the most popular games on the market installed at once like Destiny 2 (over 100GB iirc), GTA V (over 80GB) and COD+Warzone (between 150 and 200GB?), and that's without taking into account that Series S is being marketed as a Game Pass machine, so you'll want to have at least some games from Xbox Game Studios (either Starfield, Gears, Forza or Fable for instance) installed as well.

The games should be smaller on the XSS, but yes, you're right, the storage will quickly fill. That's the price we pay for the SSDs.

It will be interesting to see how much of an issue it really is. Personally, I only keep one or two games installed at a time, but others might have different preferences.
 
How easy would it be to replace this thing:
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I think the real question you should be asking yourself is replace it with what?



You guys do remember that the PS4 and XB1 launched with 500GB of storage right?
Why does this seem shady the consoles 500GB branded everywhere, its not like MS is hiding the fact the console is 500GB that would be shady.

If you only play Fortnite/COD/Fifa/Apex/Whatever popular MP game.........on a yearly basis like most gamers then yes this is actually well enough.
Go ask your IRL friends how many games they are actively playing at once over the course of the year.....if that number is higher than the attach rate of the console they are likely on this forum on not who the console is being targeted towards.

And if you are keeping 20 games installed chances are you arent buying a Series S anyway.


You guys are refusing to see what the Series S is and basically bashing it for being what it is.
It would be like complaining that the new Prius cant beat the Porsche Taycan.

The people who are buying a Prius know what they are getting, the people getting the Porsche know what they are getting.....but people who would never buy the Prius are sitting here saying what the fuck this Prius is so shit it still eats gas, its slow as fuck, this interior was made for soccer moms and doesnt look as nice as Porsche this seems shady by Toyota why would they sell you a car that actually still has a petrol engine and cant do 0 - 60 in fuck you seconds.
That actually doesnt look too difficult. Difficulty will be getting to the motherboard. But that will invalidate the warranty
 
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2-5x faster SSD?
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5x faster? Wow!


That is somewhat true.


Sorry, you can't have that any more. They will be equal 2022.


That is very subjective. I like both OS UI, personally and wish they both borrowed features From eachother. I don't want my console to look sexy, I'm married.


Pretty sure it was confirmed Xbox actually has a better audio system. Also, the only consoles to be Dolby Vision+Atmos certified.


I agree on this point only. But you do have to realise the Series S isn't only lowering the quality of Series X games, but PS5 games too as developers will code for lowest denomination most likely.

Any SSD under 1TB is poor, which is why I'm personally waiting for a 1tb+ PS5.

Thanks for the laugh. 😂😂

Tell me. How in the 2022 will be equal? Like the 360 or PS3 era? Like the Xbox One and PS4 gen? Because MS brought some studios? How that has worked out for MS so far?

When it was confirmed that Xbox has better audio? Where did you read that? Has anyone aside from MS said that the Xbox solutions is better? Yeah dobly vision and atmos and you have to spend how much to take advange of that? $500 or less? Please share the info where is say the Xbox has better audio.

About the controller is not somewhat true is true. Have you read any of the opinions or videos of people who have tried the Dualsense or has the PS5 and tell that if those features are implemented and or used in games is the only next gen controller?
 
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Games like Fortnite, COD, and Fifa are on the X1. Those games could be stored and played on an external drive. MS already said that you'll be able to download parts of certain games so if you only get a multi-player part and that part has 1k assets space won't be nearly as big an issue. The XSS is fine for what it is but it is wonderful to see so many Sony fans excited about its release.
 
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The deal is getting worse. I mean I understand that Sony and Microsoft want to offer a fast SSD and keep a reasonable price, but the numbers we're getting are very disappointing, especially for someone like me who likes to keep multiple games installed.
 
The deal is getting worse. I mean I understand that Sony and Microsoft want to offer a fast SSD and keep a reasonable price, but the numbers we're getting are very disappointing, especially for someone like me who likes to keep multiple games installed.

Are you planning to get the XSS?
 
The deal is getting worse. I mean I understand that Sony and Microsoft want to offer a fast SSD and keep a reasonable price, but the numbers we're getting are very disappointing, especially for someone like me who likes to keep multiple games installed.
That's the trade off we get. We need SSD this gen as there is no way they could go the next 7 years on HDD. It sucks yes as ALL the new consoles dont have enough space but you either buck up and buy expansion memory or deal with swapping off external drives.

We can live with either option depending on your financial situation.

edit: and buying a Series S and getting the 1TD expansion is dumb as hell.
 
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The games should be smaller on the XSS, but yes, you're right, the storage will quickly fill. That's the price we pay for the SSDs.

It will be interesting to see how much of an issue it really is. Personally, I only keep one or two games installed at a time, but others might have different preferences.
Yeah. I understand that there are some players that prefer to have many installed games at the same time, but I never do that.

When I was gaming on PC, that I recently dropped, I was just with 2 games installed: The Witcher 3 and AC Origins - because I was currently playing AC Origins and TW3 was a game I finished before and was considering going back to it.

Today I have only 2 AAA games installed on PS4 as well: Spider-Man and Bloodborne.

I usually only let 1 or 2 AAA games installed, rarely 3. I believe I will be fine with the stock storage of the XSS at least for a good while. And I really hope it doesn't become that common to have games at 150GB each, because that would be a pain for me even to download.
 
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For a console designed with Game Pass in mind, you would think they would have shipped it with more space than that. But, since it's using an SSD, installing a couple and finishing those to move on to the next won't be so bad. The only thing though, if you play more than one multiplayer game, you'd want to have both or all the ones you play installed at all times.
 
Games like Fortnite, COD, and Fifa are on the X1. Those games could be stored and played on an external drive. MS already said that you'll be able to download parts of certain games so if you only get a multi-player part and that part has 1k assets space won't be nearly as big an issue. The XSS is fine for what it is but it is wonderful to see so many Sony fans excited about its release.
Those games are also coming with next gen versions in the future which should include enhancements like RTX and other features if we are to believe the Series S is just the X in lower resolution. So, you are saying people that buy the S should just not upgrade to newer version of software and play the last gen version? What a sales pitch.
 
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An ssd. Its not proprietary technology. It is still an nvme.

Okay so you think the Series X has an off the shelf M.2 SSD thats cacheless by the way, running at a sustained 2.4GB/s and your plan is to go buy a 2240/2230(?) M.2 to slot into that port and you expect it to work????

If the expansion card is anything to go buy you arent going to be finding an off the shelf solution, the drive isnt using M.2.
Both the Controller and the NAND arent even common.
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Will the 3rd party devs even bother to strip high quality textures in order to save space on Series S? I doubt it when you just need to "dynamically" lower the resolution and call it a day.
 
Will the 3rd party devs even bother to strip high quality textures in order to save space on Series S? I doubt it when you just need to "dynamically" lower the resolution and call it a day.

The profiler will do the "stripping" for you.
Effectively when you create the "Series S version" the highest level or 2 mip is just ignored when installing the game.

The authoring process shouldnt be a problem.
And dont @ me about devs not making mipmaps for their games this coming generation....thats just silly.
 
Expansion card is basically a must have.
So over $500 for lesser spec'd machine with no optical drive, but hey it's small.

This is why I'd never consider a Series S. It's a gimped system.
 
it's really difficult for me to find any reason to buy Series S over X or PS5... this version it's completely useless and will just create confusion to the average customer.
 
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I'm still on the fence about getting a series s or not for me I'd be buying an external sdd anyway like I assume everyone else will.
 
Will this force developers to learn how to code properly? Because fuck file size for games like CoD and FIFA.

Code doesn't really take up any space. Though there are techniques for getting size down, for example, reusing textures. But they already have an incentive to do that, simply because having a special texture for every individual brick in a city would be not only a ton of space but also a ton of work for almost no benefit. Most space in a game will be art, music, textures....even polygonal wireframe information isn't really all that big I don't think.

Fact is, modern high-def content takes up a lot of space. If you don't want an image to be blurry on a big 4k TV, you better make sure the content has 4x more definition, and that means 4x the space.
 
I kind of dont understand the logic behind Microsoft's plan on the S.

The series S should be their "main" model because its cheaper and since the majority dont really care for 4K, yet you need to fork out an extra 200(?) for external storage to be able to have at least a couple of games installed making it effectively even more expensive than the X without any of the benefits. I really dont get their target audience.

Their naming system is awful, and to be honest, I think the majority of casual gamers might be getting "the wrong one" over xmas.
 
While the ssd is small I believe the end goal is to ease people into streaming games on the Series S. It's an all digital console so it must have an internet connection anyway.

MS will have 3 tiers.

Streaming Only - Xbox streaming dongle, Android, ios, etc.. (Worst latency but cheapest price)
Hybrid - Series S / Laptops (Convenience of streaming plus 1080p local games with no latency)
Premium - Series X / PC (Convenience of streaming plus 4k local games with best performance and no latency)

Xbox stream dongle (with controller): $100-$150
Series S: $299
Series X: $499

Streaming dongle is all that's needed to complete the trifecta.
 
Also, it has no disc drive.. i know this isn't old news for most but i only just picked up on it.. i just an acutely aware of how people thought the PS5 digital version was the death knell for disc games, but i don't see many people saying the same about this~
 
I know some people, who only play Fifa or CoD, so they do not need a big SSD and delete always the old versions
But still, I think it was not a good Idea from MS to remove the disc drive.
Why didn't they just go the PS5 way and ripped off the drive and a bit of the SSD from the XSX?

Even as a Gamepass device this is not enough.. For the XSS you must have a fast internet connection or else it will be a huge chore to manage the space and get new games.

At least all non next Gen games can be stored on an external HDD with not performance loss compared to the old Gen.

Honestly, I expect this to be the first console which will get price reductions to attract more buyers.
Just like the Xbox One SAD version

Btw: do we know if we can store XSS games on an external HDD and copy them back, if we want to play it?
 
Those games are also coming with next gen versions in the future which should include enhancements like RTX and other features if we are to believe the Series S is just the X in lower resolution. So, you are saying people that buy the S should just not upgrade to newer version of software and play the last gen version? What a sales pitch.
You can also buy the 4K console MS is also selling. No one is forcing anyone to buy an XSS. It's for the causal gamer who doesn't care about having the best graphics.
 
You can also buy the 4K console MS is also selling. No one is forcing anyone to buy an XSS. It's for the causal gamer who doesn't care about having the best graphics.
Yes. That is what I did. That does not mean I have no opinion about people having to stick to last gen games to save hdd space on their "next gen" console.
 
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