Self
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Series S games are 30% smaller in size. At least that's what I read somewhere...
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Xbox Series X has 802GB net usable storage
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Andodalf
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SX has between 40 and 50 for quick resume, and another portion for game recoding being always available.
Entroyp
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Oh yea, good point.
Zathalus
Member
Apparently you can just plug a regular PCIe 4.0 NVMe SSD in and it will work. The NVMe SSD needs to have 7GBps read and be certified by Sony. But they have had no details to offer at all on this front. The Samsung 980 should be compatible, but no idea yet.
splattered
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If we can turn off quick resume to get additional storage space i am all for it. Or maybe specify "I only want two games in quick resume." ... i am fine booting up a game from scratch with the new SSD speed improvements.
LordOfChaos
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Virtual RAM swap I assume
Dolomite
Member
Holy hell I forgot about the core edition 360
it gave the Wii a run for it's money with pricing
Kindjal
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DrumNBassDanTTV
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Why is this worthy of a thread? ppl know how HDD/SSD`s work right? u never get the full storage space if it requires an OS
RoadHazard
Gold Member
That's very different though. The PS4 does this by keeping the RAM powered, so the game is kept in memory even when the console is "off" (it's not really off). Doing this with more than one game at a time means you need to write that memory to disk, so you're gonna have to reserve enough space for X games.
Walter Matthau
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It's giving the exact amount of available storage space which I'm sure is of interest to many people. I don't think the OP had console war intentions when posting this.
Craig of War
Banned
Rumor - PS5 to have 650GB of usable storage
https://segmentnext.com/2020/08/24/playstation-5-ssd-reserves-175gb-for-os-leaving-650gb-for-games-rumor/
EliTheIceMan
Member
So why advertise a 1 tb drive? I wonder how much space is available on ps5 drive that's false advertising to meThat's after being formatted, OS and reserved space.
For comparison:
Xbox One X is 780GB net usable space
PS5 is 825GB gross total space
ZywyPL
Banned
I think that most of that space is reserved for Quick Resume - the console dumps the RAM into the SSD, and then fills the RAM with that data again, hence you can resume in the exactly same spot/position you were previously, and that would explain why sometimes you can have 5 titles utilizing QR at once, sometimes 8, and sometimes even 12, it all comes down to games from which console you are playing (OG XB, X360, XB1), as they were equipped with different amount of RAM.
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EverydayBeast
thinks Halo Infinite is a new graphical benchmark
It’s still a lot of space fill it with quality games that’s the important part
Barakov
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OOF.jpegThat's after being formatted, OS and reserved space.
For comparison:
Xbox One X is 780GB net usable space
PS5 is 825GB gross total space
I'll interested in seeing how much the PS5 has.
*In before the "You don't need more than 2 games stored on your system at any time" people show up
VincentMatts
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Is this the first time youve used a hard drive?
Nitty_Grimes
Made a crappy phPBB forum once ... once.
Screenshots, video clips, saves, patches etc. all gotta go somewhere.
DrumNBassDanTTV
Member
But no company does give actual space...
prinz_valium
Member
Series S is 512 and not only 500GB
One S OS is 50GB smaller than One X OS
ThatOneGrunt
Member
You have to delete all the preinstalled bloatware like AOL, Mcafee, Mahjong...
RaySoft
Member
Quick resume takes around 16GB for every state, so that has to be reserved together with OS and a small space just used by the SSDs controller. A 100% full SSD is a bad SSD. This ties into nand MTBF's. The controller makes sure it writes the nands as little and uniformly as possible. With a full drive the controller doesn't have any headroom to acheive that.
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Hendrick's
If only my penis was as big as my GamerScore!
I will never need more than the X has to offer. I delete most of what I don't play. I would like an auto-delete function that would remove items after a set period of disuse though.
saintjules
Member
Yeah, this. I don't get why you'd need that many games on the main drive. I mean, I bought a new SSD for the Consoles (deciding which one will have it), but it will mainly be to store the games. I'll throw 2 or 3 games maybe on the main drive at a time.
sixamp
Member
they are the same price as the samsung ssds for pc. prices will drop for all in the first year. Microsoft should have allowed all manufacturers to make ssds for the X
StreetsofBeige
Gold Member
I'm doing the same for Series X games. It's $300 cdn.
Going by today's hands on tests, swapping back and forth a 50gb game from SSD to an external HDD takes 7-10 minutes (each way I'll assume), so that's 14-20 minutes. That's a lousy way of flip flopping Series X performance games.
At the beginning, the 1tb could probably hold 8-10 Series X games with some additional indies tossed in. But reduce that number of there's some Call of Duty or GTAV Series X patches where each full game and DLC is like 200 gb each.
This will be fine for the first bit, but once the Series X games start flying in that SSD will fill fast. Then you got to hot swap or just perma delete a game from the internal SSD and leave it on the external HDD forever.
Last gen it wasn't an issue as the internal and external bought HDD ran it the same.
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MrFunSocks
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But what it has is irrelevant, because you can’t do anything about it. It’s useless information really. It’s in-line with every other console.
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Barakov
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Rumor - PS5 to have 650GB of usable storage
https://segmentnext.com/2020/08/24/playstation-5-ssd-reserves-175gb-for-os-leaving-650gb-for-games-rumor/www.neogaf.com
HoodWinked
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1TB = 1,000,000,000,000 B
1,000,000,000,000 / 1024 = 976,562,500 KB
976,562,500 / 1024 = 953,674.31 MB
953,674.31 / 1024 = 931.32 GB
1,000,000,000,000 / 1024 = 976,562,500 KB
976,562,500 / 1024 = 953,674.31 MB
953,674.31 / 1024 = 931.32 GB
Dolomite
Member
Agreed. I'm sure after whatever contract Seagate has with MS expires(if ever), some 3rd party will offer cheaper drives. Not the end of the world but who says no to options
Guys do we know if quick resume works in always online games? Take Destiny even if you suspend the game it will require you to log back in and it wont be where you left off it takes you back to orbit. And is all that reserved space for quick resume? Can we have option to disable quick resume and have like 150GB more space? I would take that any day 
S0ULZB0URNE
Member
yikes that's kinda big!
I'm scared to see how much PS5 will use...
I'm scared to see how much PS5 will use...
Andodalf
Banned
Guys do we know if quick resume works in always online games? Take Destiny even if you suspend the game it will require you to log back in and it wont be where you left off it takes you back to orbit. And is all that reserved space for quick resume? Can we have option to disable quick resume and have like 150GB more space? I would take that any day
Quick resume would occupy more like 50 GB
dead_lighter
Member
This makes a no brainer for Series X. S will be for the non core gamers who aren't aware of this and of the cost of the SSD extension.So this means Series S may have less than 300GB
No, just like windows does for ages, if Xbox says it has 500 GB free it means 500 GiB. So it really is 802 GiB usable space on the x.
To make it worse, when downloading something the Xbox shows GB/s instead of Gb/s. Small difference, big impact (bits and Bytes). They fixed this a long time ago, but than with an update they show again the wrong unit.
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Black_Stride
do not tempt fate do not contrain Wonder Woman's thighs do not do not
Because thats how big the drive is.
Its still a 1TB drive, the space that you cant use for games is still being used by the system so the drives size hasnt changed, and that space is being used.
If they told you the drive is 902GB but then an OS update increases the quick resume cache so now the usable space is 850GB.....they cant reprint all the boxes retroactively so they still say 902GB but after you turn on the system you see 850GB.....thats false advertising.
By saying its a 1TB drive, regardless of what else you or they do....the drive is still a 1TB drive, you just cant use all of that 1TB for games.
The PS5 will likely be in the mid low 700GB range.
I think Sony is actually using their SSD alot more for OS level stuff than MS, they would want to make sure that space is system reserved for sure.
M1chl
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You are correct, but those units are GiB : )
Memorabilia
Member
That's after being formatted, OS and reserved space.
For comparison:
Xbox One X is 780GB net usable space
PS5 is 825GB gross total space
Whether OP meant it to be misleading or not, this isn't an accurate comparison.
PS5 net usable storage will likely be roughly 650-670Gb after format & OS.
Memorabilia
Member
You're off by about 100Gb. Actual PS5 usable space will likely be more like 650-670Gb.
XSX 1Tb = 930Gb formatted (final usable storage is 802, meaning Os is 128)
PS5 825Gb = 768Gb formatted (final usable storage will be about 650-670 with ~100-120Gb OS)
prinz_valium
Member
You don't know the difference between net usable and gross total?
Series X is 1TB gross total
PS5 net usable is 664GB, but that wasn't known a few days back
MrFunSocks
Banned
Lol wtf kind of maths or logic is this?
The PS5 SSD is 175GB smaller than the SX SSD, yet you think it will only have 34GB less usable space?
The PS5 will have something in the vicinity of 650GB usable.