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[anthony2690]

I'm at work and on break, but is Gitaroo man, ape escape 2 and 3 possible? (Can't watch video, as I have 3 minutes left on my break)

But I'd love to replay them

Rip: read comments, dev mode only D;

 

[Rossco EZ]

I'm at work and on break, but is Gitaroo man, ape escape 2 and 3 possible? (Can't watch video, as I have 3 minutes left on my break)

But I'd love to replay them

Rip: read comments, dev mode only D;

i have it running not in dev mode

 

[Come On Tars]

Is there a known difference in emulation performance between the S and series X

 

[Esppiral]

Been playing a ton of ps2 Dreamcast and GameCube games 4k, 60, fps, texture packs... It's a dream emulation box.

 

[Darsxx82]

I'm at work and on break, but is Gitaroo man, ape escape 2 and 3 possible? (Can't watch video, as I have 3 minutes left on my break)

But I'd love to replay them

Rip: read comments, dev mode only D;

You dont need dev Mode for running It. You have a retail App.

 

[Come On Tars]

This reminds me that one of my favorite consoles of all time was the original modded Xbox. Emulators and free games plus movies blew my friends minds. Now we have that in an official capacity. It's what's making me pick Xbox over playstation

 

[SegaManAU]

I'm really keen to try this out but I'm still concerned that one day MS may ban people's accounts. :|

 

[adamsapple]

I'm really keen to try this out but I'm still concerned that one day MS may ban people's accounts. :|

No that would be incredibly stupid and a massive PR blunder for them to ban people over this, especially when using retail apps.

 

[Darsxx82]

Is there a known difference in emulation performance between the S and series X

Only in XSX you can play at higher resolution at 60 fps. In XSX you play everything at 4K 60fps while in XSS you SOMETIMES have to reduce the resolution to ~1800-1440p for perfect 60fps.

 

[adamsapple]

XBSX2 is based on the newest PCSX2 PC version, so it's basically almost 100% on par with that. of course on a powerful PC you will have better CPU performance and can run more games at better speeds, especially if you try using 60fps hacks or if you need to run in Software mode

if you are talking about AetherSX2 on Xbox, the XBSX2 is vastly superior from the last version of AetherSX2 I used since AetherSX2 was based on an older version of PCSX2

Gotcha, thanks for the info. Getting XBSX2 on my SX at the earliest convenience now.

 

[Nemesisuuu]

I'm really keen to try this out but I'm still concerned that one day MS may ban people's accounts. :|

That's also my concern.

 

[tuco11]

http://[URL]https://www.neogaf.com/...ownload-links-no-modding-no-dev-mode.1612885/

[/URL]

go into that thread, in the first post is a big download button. click that, join the discord server on the site it links to.

gamr13 uploads XBSX2 as a retail mode version every week, they sometimes get taken down fast so as soon as it's available download and launch the Emulator at least once.

this is currently the only method that works because some asshole apparently kept reporting more publicly visible links to it

Got it . Thanks!

 

[FunkMiller]

Playing Silent Hill 2 4k and 60fps on my Series X was fantastic

 

[TLZ]

I'm really keen to try this out but I'm still concerned that one day MS may ban people's accounts. :|

That's also my concern.

Don't worry. No one will be banned because no one's hacking anything. We're all legitimately downloading an app from the retail store that works. Emulators aren't illegal.

The worst that could happen is them just deleting the app from our consoles.

 

[Teslerum]

A competitor for PCSX2 ?

Will definitely check it out for sure !

Not a competitor. Port/Fork.

 

[THE DUCK]

Sony should be embarrassed by this.

This is on point. They have tons of great older games but don't put in the time/resources to make them look and run the best way possible. Makes little sense for a company leading console gaming sales.

 

[01011001]

yeah i couldnt find anything either which was weird.. ive managed to get the ps2 bios on here now, just booted it up and seems to open fine. will try get a few games on here now and test a few out. thank you

I made one (hastily and not high quality, but it gets the job done xD)

look in the first post here and scroll down to the tutorial section.

https://www.neogaf.com/threads/retro-emulators-for-xbox-series-x-s-one-download-links-no-modding-no-dev-mode.1612885/

and I'll link the video directly here too

 

[analog_future]

I'm really keen to try this out but I'm still concerned that one day MS may ban people's accounts. :|

That's also my concern.

Not gonna happen. There's been an emulation scene on Xbox for many, many years. Well before Series S|X. Microsoft is undoubtedly fully aware of this and have been for years. No reason to believe they're ever going to ban anyone.

 

[Rossco EZ]

I made one (hastily and not high quality, but it gets the job done xD)

look in the first post here and scroll down to the tutorial section.

http://[URL]https://www.neogaf.com/...ownload-links-no-modding-no-dev-mode.1612885/

[/URL]

and I'll link the video directly here too

great video and thanks for taking the time to do that, didnt see the automatic controller mapping i did everything myself but just reset and done that now. just ordered a 256gb stick as my 64gb one is full now with games haha, all games are running really well. is there an app similar for PSX/PS1 without having to use retroarch?

 

[01011001]

great video and thanks for taking the time to do that, didnt see the automatic controller mapping i did everything myself but just reset and done that now. just ordered a 256gb stick as my 64gb one is full now with games haha, all games are running really well. is there an app similar for PSX/PS1 without having to use retroarch?

there was (Duckstation), but sadly it's not supported anymore by the dev and Gamr13 decided to not upload it anymore.
PS1 does run pretty well in Retroarch tho using Swanstation (a fork of Duckstation)

 

[Rossco EZ]

there was (Duckstation), but sadly it's not supported anymore by the dev and Gamr13 decided to not upload it anymore.
PS1 does run pretty well in Retroarch tho using Swanstation (a fork of Duckstation)

ah thats a shame, ill take a look at retroarch again then for that

 

[onnextflix5]

Lol this is just embarrassing for Sony, who has not released one ps2 emulated game on the ps plus premium service yet.

 

[fatmarco]

Dude what the fuck!? How do you get this? Do you download the emulator onto a flashdrive and upload it to the Xbox? Or just use the Xbox's server browser? I don't have an xbox that's why I'm asking.

I watched this video and used their links:

Is there a widescreen patch? Because this looks all stretched out.

The emulator is set to 16:9, so it's just stretched out. There might be a patch but I'm not sure.

 

[01011001]

Lol this is just embarrassing for Sony, who has not released one ps2 emulated game on the ps plus premium service yet.

it's worse than that really, because the PS4 is jailbroken for quite some time now, people are able to play with Sony's PS2 emulator that works on PS4 and PS5... turns out that emulator can play about 700 PS2 games almost perfectly with hundreds more in playable states with "minor issues"

here's a list:

PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List - PS4 Developer wiki

Playstation Development Wiki - PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, Vita Information

www.psdevwiki.com

Total Games Tested = 1256:
629 Games are "Playable"
54 Games are "Official PS2 Classics" (not included in the playable category)
234 Games have "Minor Issues"
79 Games have "Major Issues"
260 Games are "Unplayable"

definition of "Playable" in that list:
The Game works perfect without any noticeable errors.
It works exactly like when you play it on real PS2 Hardware.

definition of "Minor Issues" in that list:
The Game has some small issues like small flickering, frame drops or glitching graphics.
But the Game itself works fine and you are able to complete the Game successfully without any huge disadvantages for your in-game-progress.

not all PS2 releases have been tested here tho, so some might be added into the playable list down the line

 

[sachos]

Look how fucking good PS2 looks when upscaled? THIS is the level of emulation i was expecting from Sony when the announced their Classics Program, same with Duckstation vs their PS1 emulator. They are sitting on a gold mine. Thank God for open source emulation.

 

[nkarafo]

A competitor for PCSX2 ?

It's a fork od PCSX2.

 

[adamsapple]

It's a fork od PCSX2.

Yep, I didn't know it was straight up a newer build from the PC versions of PCSX2 before.

 

[adamsapple]

it's worse than that really, because the PS4 is jailbroken for quite some time now, people are able to play with Sony's PS2 emulator that works on PS4 and PS5... turns out that emulator can play about 700 PS2 games almost perfectly with hundreds more in playable states with "minor issues"

here's a list:

PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List - PS4 Developer wiki

Playstation Development Wiki - PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, Vita Information

www.psdevwiki.com

Total Games Tested = 1256:
629 Games are "Playable"
54 Games are "Official PS2 Classics" (not included in the playable category)
234 Games have "Minor Issues"
79 Games have "Major Issues"
260 Games are "Unplayable"

definition of "Playable" in that list:
The Game works perfect without any noticeable errors.
It works exactly like when you play it on real PS2 Hardware.

definition of "Minor Issues" in that list:
The Game has some small issues like small flickering, frame drops or glitching graphics.
But the Game itself works fine and you are able to complete the Game successfully without any huge disadvantages for your in-game-progress.

not all PS2 releases have been tested here tho, so some might be added into the playable list down the line

Even before the PS4, the PS3 had a PS2 emulator in it as well. It didn't do any upscaling but it ran games at native resolution with an added "Smoothing" option to filter elements.

I remember playing Persona 3/4 on PS2 before they were officially added to PSN via the jail broken emulator.

 

[01011001]

Even before the PS4, the PS3 had a PS2 emulator in it as well. It didn't do any upscaling but it ran games at native resolution with an added "Smoothing" option to filter elements.

I remember playing Persona 3/4 on PS2 before they were officially added to PSN via the jail broken emulator.

that emulator is even more nuts

PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List - PS3 Developer wiki

Playstation Development Wiki - PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, Vita Information

psdevwiki.com

PS2 Classic = 410
Playable = 1632!!! (add the 410 officially released ones and you are at 2042 playable games)
Minor Issues = 327
Major Issues = 112
Unplayable = 76

yeah... so about PS3 slims not being backwards compatible... there was literally no real reason why...
that emulator runs Raw Danger perfectly... that game is not easy to run, to have it run perfectly on PC you need a really fast CPU and you have to run it fully in software mode on PC and Xbox... so the fact that that game runs here and is even an officially released title is nuts tbh! the fully 3D water in that can DESTROY your CPU performance in software mode.

 

[adamsapple]

that emulator is even more nuts

PS2 Classics Emulator Compatibility List - PS3 Developer wiki

Playstation Development Wiki - PS5, PS4, PS3, PS2, PS1, PSP, Vita Information

psdevwiki.com

PS2 Classic = 410
Playable = 1632!!! (add the 410 officially released ones and you are at 2042 playable games)
Minor Issues = 327
Major Issues = 112
Unplayable = 76

yeah... so about PS3 slims not being backwards compatible... there was literally no real reason why...
that emulator runs Raw Danger perfectly... that game is not easy to run, to have it run perfectly on PC you need a really fast CPU and you have to run it fully in software mode on PC and Xbox... so the fact that that game runs here and is even an officially released title is nuts tbh! the fully 3D water in that can DESTROY your CPU performance in software mode.

All of this makes the fact that Sony has absolutely STUNK at giving PS2 emulation options on the couple of their modern consoles is ridiculous.

 

[01011001]

All of this makes the fact that Sony has absolutely STUNK at giving PS2 emulation options on the couple of their modern consoles is ridiculous.

it's fucked... when i first saw that compatibility list I was shocked... like... 2000 playable games and Sony just dropped PS2 support

 

[Shifty1897]

This is probably the only way I'm going to be able to play Radiata Stories again, so I guess it's time to pick up a Series S.

 

[nkarafo]

Yep, I didn't know it was straight up a newer build from the PC versions of PCSX2 before.

Yeah, for something as complex as the PS2, a new emulator would need years in development to reach that compatibility/performance. Unless someone was developing one secretly for many years, when a new one pops up and has such great compatibility/speed, chances are it's a fork.

yeah... so about PS3 slims not being backwards compatible... there was literally no real reason why...

Well. Backwards compatibility is something that only the consumer benefits from. It's not even a major selling point anymore. Nobody is going to NOT buy a console because it can't play the previous one's games.

It's surprising to me how the PS5 can play old PS4 dics tbh.

 

[keefged4]

This is awesome, but the only thing that's stopping using this full time for my PS2 collection is the lack of retroachievements, hopefully it'll be included in an update as other versions of PCSX2 have it just now.

 

[TLZ]

I made one (hastily and not high quality, but it gets the job done xD)

look in the first post here and scroll down to the tutorial section.

http://[URL]https://www.neogaf.com/...ownload-links-no-modding-no-dev-mode.1612885/

[/URL]

and I'll link the video directly here too

Yo. Thanks for this I'm playing Maximo and Blood Omen perfectly!

My only issue is it fails to save state. I'm guessing because I didn't do the permissions part. But that's because I kept HDD on FAT32 (because I already had games on it and didn't want to format) and couldn't find the security tab in properties.

 

[old-parts]

Yeah, for something as complex as the PS2, a new emulator would need years in development to reach that compatibility/performance. Unless someone was developing one secretly for many years, when a new one pops up and has such great compatibility/speed, chances are it's a fork.

There are other PS2 emulators, with Play being in active development, I think a lot of the recent advancements have come from a change in the PCSX2 code base, one of the more recent project leaders did a video on Youtube explaining it all and how past decisions had slowed down development and the changes for project in streamlining it. More devs are now on the project, also it seems Duckstation dev is now contributing towards PCSX2 as well.

I wish they would just change the names of these emulators and make it Duckstation 1, 2 and 3, the PCSX2 and RPCS3 are awkward names.

 

[M1chl]

Is there a known difference in emulation performance between the S and series X

He is stating that in video, that XSX can do 4K on most games, while Series S can do 1440p

 

[fatmarco]

It is frustrating that I bought a PS4 with the understanding/hope that they'd port some of their legacy titles at least, but ultimately Sony did so little on that front it meant I was completely uninterested in the PS5.

Xbox on the other hand I was able to take save games from my 2006 360 and port them over to the Series X with zero issue, and pick up my save games where I left them over 15 years earlier.

Sony is literally sitting on a legacy gold mine, the amount of titles, the amount of classic games, dead IP etc. There's so little to lose for them, even with copyright issues taken into consideration. It's just hard to invest in a platform that is so ridiculously lazy in terms of their back catalogue and your personal library of purchases titles on older systems.

 

[nkarafo]

There are other PS2 emulators, with Play being in active development

I know but none are even close to PCSX2. The only other recommended emulator in this list is a PCSX2 port.

Play, which is the second best PS2 emulator that isn't a fork, is at least a decade behind in commits/maturity compared to PCSX2. Even if the whole emulation community would gather to advance Play at PCSX's current level it would still take a couple of years.

My point is, don't expect new emulators of complex systems to work nicely early on. And if they do, they are most likely forks and not really new emulators...

...Unless it's Mednafen Saturn. Saturn is considered a pretty complex system to emulate and this emulator came out of nowhere and it was arguably better than SSF. I assume the author was developing it in secret for years.

 

[01011001]

Yo. Thanks for this I'm playing Maximo and Blood Omen perfectly!

My only issue is it fails to save state. I'm guessing because I didn't do the permissions part. But that's because I kept HDD on FAT32 (because I already had games on it and didn't want to format) and couldn't find the security tab in properties.

i am honestly surprised that FAT32 works at all without major issues.
but good to know.

 

[Come On Tars]

Do you guys think the series x has the juice to emulate the switch eventually?

 

[MAtgS]

Does it have Retroachievements intergration by any chance?

 

[01011001]

Do you guys think the series x has the juice to emulate the switch eventually?

it does, but Switch emulators on the market currently only support Vulkan as far as I'm aware, which the Xbox doesn't support.

if someone would port it to Xbox they would first need to make a Direct X 12 renderer for it.

PS3, Xbox 360, Switch, they all could in theory be emulated on a Series X. with the PS3 being the hardest to pull off tho, at least for some titles, many would run just fine.

 

[Ozriel]

Do you guys think the series x has the juice to emulate the switch eventually?

More than enough power to emulate the Switch flawlessly, even in Series S. No plans on the horizon to port any of the Switch emulators, unfortunately.

 

[keefged4]

Does it have Retroachievements intergration by any chance?

No, not at the moment anyway.

 

[TLZ]

PS3, Xbox 360, Switch, they all could in theory be emulated on a Series X. with the PS3 being the hardest to pull off tho, at least for some titles, many would run just fine.

Man if the PS3 could be done.... Hooo boy.

 

[01011001]

Man if the PS3 could be done.... Hooo boy.

it all hinges on that Direct X support

I think realistically the next emulatros we will see ported over to the Xbox will be CXBX Reloaded and a standalone version of Dolphin.

sadly CXBX Reloaded has really low compatibility, Xemu would be amazing but Xemu, once again, doesn't support Direct X, which is of course highly ironic for an emulator for the Direct-X-Box

Xenia, the Xbox 360 emulator, could also come eventually, it has a Direct X 12 renderer, but I'm not sure if compatibility in that is better than what Microsoft supports through their backwards compatibility service.

 

[THE DUCK]

I have to say, these PS2 games have a new life in this emulator. Who knew they could look so good.

 

[I Master l]

Did anyone manage to apply widescreen patches successfully? it doesn't seem to work i see stretched image in Chaos Legion

 

[01011001]

Did anyone manage to apply widescreen patches successfully? it doesn't seem to work i see stretched image in Chaos Legion

never tried a widescreen patch but I did use a patch to unlock the framerate in Urban Chaos and that worked fine for me (although the Xbox doesn't have enough cpu grunt to push it to 60fps reliably lol)