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XenoSaga III (PS2) - New Screenshots

olimario

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Himuro said:
I'm excited because it look slike they're bringing back what made XSI a pretty solid game.

What made XS1 a pretty solid game was the great script that Takahashi and his wife wrote. That part of the XS team is gone forever, so I expect any improvements at all in XS3 to be merely visual in nature. The game will never be the same again and since this is the last one, I'm glad it'll all be over at least.
 
duckroll said:
What made XS1 a pretty solid game was the great script that Takahashi and his wife wrote. That part of the XS team is gone forever, so I expect any improvements at all in XS3 to be merely visual in nature. The game will never be the same again and since this is the last one, I'm glad it'll all be over at least.


I still don't understand it to this day. I can reconcile firing Soraya and Takahashi. Poor sales, egos, whatever. I can understand the firing thing, but why on earth would they just dump a completed script and essentially flush the, what, 20 million spent on the game down the drain? I can't fathom the reasoning behind that nor why Namco hasn't beat the ever-loving tar out of the people responsible for, essentially, wasting their money.
 
Mefisutoferesu said:
I still don't understand it to this day. I can reconcile firing Soraya and Takahashi. Poor sales, egos, whatever. I can understand the firing thing, but why on earth would they just dump a completed script and essentially flush the, what, 20 million spent on the game down the drain? I can't fathom the reasoning behind that nor why Namco hasn't beat the ever-loving tar out of the people responsible for, essentially, wasting their money.

Why? Because that's not what happened. :D

No one was fired. Nothing was flushed down the toilet. There were just management changes, clash of ideas, ego issues and well.... lots of bad decisions.
 
duckroll said:
Why? Because that's not what happened. :D

No one was fired. Nothing was flushed down the toilet. There were just management changes, clash of ideas, ego issues and well.... lots of bad decisions.


Ah, so all this stuff I've been hearing is the internet being "teh internets", so to speak. It wasn't because the producers or whatever were at odds with the writers and what occurred happened out of some vengeful hatred towards Soraya and Takahashi, but just an instance of immense stupidity? Still, I don't see how that really explain why they decided to leave out as much as they did from the script. From what I've heard the budget wasn't an issue, so I don't imagine so much was cut for the sake of budget; nor, according to Soraya, did the parts cut involve particularly delicate issues, so I'm kinda at a loss here. Sorry, I'm just having trouble understanding how things could happen the way they did.
 
Mefisutoferesu said:
Ah, so all this stuff I've been hearing is the internet being "teh internets", so to speak. It wasn't because the producers or whatever were at odds with the writers and what occurred happened out of some vengeful hatred towards Soraya and Takahashi, but just an instance of immense stupidity? Still, I don't see how that really explain why they decided to leave out as much as they did from the script. From what I've heard the budget wasn't an issue, so I don't imagine so much was cut for the sake of budget; nor, according to Soraya, did the parts cut involve particularly delicate issues, so I'm kinda at a loss here. Sorry, I'm just having trouble understanding how things could happen the way they did.

It's really quite simple. After XS1 didn't remotely make as much money as they expected (they expected it to sell better than XG did in Japan, but it didn't, although it did 'well'), presumably people on top got cold feet and decided that the direction the series was intended for in the beginning might not be the "best" direction. So they experimented with changing the staff around, making things more hip, etc. The original creators obviously went "zomgwtfbbq stop compromising our VISION!" so one thing led to another and well, in the end Takahashi is not ALL of Monolithsoft, and Xenosaga IS a Namco copyright. So yeah well. Whatever happened happened. XS2 did even WORSE making them realize that it was again the WRONG direction. So now you have XS3, which is the last chance the series is getting, and now we're seeing a hybrid of XS1 and XS2. Basically the XS2 staff, trying to make it "more like XS1" in a attempt to please the 10 fans the series has left. :lol
 
The first XS killed any interest I had in the rest of the series (seriously, the game was the least *fun* out of any of the RPGs on PS2 I've played), but at least they've improved the graphics somewhat with this one.
 
The first two movies were interesting stories, though they dragged on for far too long. I think they tried to make you press buttons to do something to make the movie continue, but I don't remember anything about it except that it was annoyingly tedious.

Nevertheless, I might pick Xenosaga III up on DVD for $10 one of these days.
 
HomerSimpson-Man said:
Yeah, pretty much.

I predict a rash of either lesbian, bondage, or futanari (or possibly even all three at one) doujin starring KOS-MOS and TELOS. Maybe even a threesome with Shion, too.

But anyway, that aside, I'll eventually get around to buying XS episodes 2 and 3, just because I want to know what happens (even if it does turn out to be a horrible mess, I'd still like to know).
 
duckroll said:
What made XS1 a pretty solid game was the great script that Takahashi and his wife wrote. That part of the XS team is gone forever, so I expect any improvements at all in XS3 to be merely visual in nature. The game will never be the same again and since this is the last one, I'm glad it'll all be over at least.
Well, while Soraya has departed from the team, Takahashi is still onboard, though he's probably still stuck in the role of project supervisor he was demoted to after the XSII mayhem. Nevertheless, his original outline/plot is still being utilized, it's just he and his wife are no longer deciding which portions of the massive storyline are included (or cut), and they also no longer have a say in the dialogue.

While this will inherently cause XSIII to be inferior to the true potential it may have once held, it will still contain the extremely layered core narrative that has made the series so entertaining, and for me that's enough.
 
Heian-kyo said:
Well, while Soraya has departed from the team, Takahashi is still onboard, though he's probably still stuck in the role of project supervisor he was demoted to after the XSII mayhem. Nevertheless, his original outline/plot is still being utilized, it's just he and his wife are no longer deciding which portions of the massive storyline are included (or cut), and they also no longer have a say in the dialogue.

Sorry, untrue.
 
duckroll said:
Sorry, untrue.
Do you have some sort of confirmation of this? Because as far as I know, he's still working at Monolith Soft, and it would be not only downright impossible to start over completely 67% of the way through the narrative, but also financially irresponsible to throw away a perfectly legitimate outline (at the very least not even using it as a foundation) that is already the property of Namco's.
 
Trailer looked terrible, but then again I expect nothing besides "hey lets have lots of boss fights [which will probably all suck] and kill everyone quickly so we can just end it already".
 
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