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You can play Fallout 4 for 400 hours without seeing everything
- Thread starter VlaudTheImpaler
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To be fair they aren't saying 400 to finish everything, see is way more broad.
Skyrim was insanely huge and I never came close to seeing everything in there, so I'm not really surprised if FO4 really is that dense.
This. There's a huge difference between "seeing" everything and doing all the quests in the game (which is what it seems people are mostly talking about in here). I did nearly all the quests in Skyrim in around 100 hours, but I was still discovering stuff I hadn't seen long after that. Same with Fallout 3 and NV.
This sounds like Bethesda! I invested hundred of hours into Morrowind and still haven't done Imperial Legion or a few other quest lines.
People who are saying "too much! I don't like it!" have you guys played a Bethesda game before? They spend years building that scale into their games. It's not a Ubisoft collectathon.
Give Todd Howard the respect his track record warrants.
People who are saying "too much! I don't like it!" have you guys played a Bethesda game before? They spend years building that scale into their games. It's not a Ubisoft collectathon.
Give Todd Howard the respect his track record warrants.
They should do TES6, and then take the assets from that and do a massive procedurally generated game with them as a side thing. I'd imagine it'd be a faster turn around since they wouldn't be hand placing anything and the assets would be already made
but I also know fuck all about development and am talking out my ass, so it probably wouldn't work that way and would be incredibly difficult.
1. I stated that this was to everyone bitching about how long it was, not just you.
2. If you are groaning about it being too long, you obviously aren't enjoying it. I am merely suggesting how you can enjoy the game without asking them to truncate it so that those of us who really do like spending a lot of time in the game don't get some shortened game that has not much content (Cause honestly that disappoints me). Everyone wins, right?
Having more choice is better. You don't have to do everything if you don't enjoy it. And don't tell me not to tell you how to enjoy things when you're bitching that you wouldn't enjoy doing the full game cause it's too long. You weren't anticipating enjoying that so it wasn't like I was telling you to stop enjoying it that way if you never were in the first place rather than suggesting how you could still enjoy it (while still allowing the content that the rest of us would like to get cause some of us do like to hear that the game can take a while to finish. I'd be super disappointed if it was only 100 hours before I couldn't find anything more in the game. Hell, 3 felt like it didn't have enough quests to me and I ended up playing 200+ hours of it).
I was addressing those who were bitching about Bethesda games being boring (cause there are several posts who just go, "It's Bethesda, it'll all be boring" or something to that effect). Maybe I should have worded it "and those who" rather than "if you" (sorry, I didn't mean you as in you in particular but as a general you as in those who). I apologize for that.
HowlingMad
Banned
Depends on how one plays the game I suppose. I have about 150 hours in on Icewind Dale and I never even got to the final fight of the Vanilla game. I get about 2/3 of the way in and suddenly get this overwhelming urge to start all over with new characters.
I spent 200+ hours in New Vegas and am playing again and have 70+ hours in it on my second playthrough and just discovered a place I hadn't found before (to be fair I refuse to quick travel. It goes to show how ready I was for Witcher to be done that I started using quick travel at the end). Sorry, Witcher fans, Witcher was a great game but it just doesn't quite scratch that itch for me as well as Bethesda games do (different games and I just prefer Bethesda's approach but I did love Witcher).
BLUElightCory
Member
People are taking a throwaway quote and acting like it's something Bethesda is putting on the back of the box. He's just saying it's a huge game and that he's still having new experiences in it. This is GAF, we all know how these games work, you can choose to just play through the main stuff in a couple dozen hours or you can mess around in them for years. The amount of snark and cynicism in here is crazy.
Werewolf Jones
Member
I can only put about 30 hours into Fallout 3 before I start getting bored (In one playthrough) so I don't think I'll be putting 400 hours into the game, I never even managed that with the first one, probably around 150 or so overall across 4 playthroughs.
StriKeVillain
Banned
Love Fallout but I sure as hell don't want to play it for 400 hours. Good thing this is just promotion speak.
lifeexpectancy
Member
It takes 401 hours to find every garden gnome without a guide. Technically each one is unique, since there are subtle differences in the RNG for the paint chips...
I'm kidding. I'm sure the game will be huge, but I don't see myself spending 400 hours in it.
I'm kidding. I'm sure the game will be huge, but I don't see myself spending 400 hours in it.
superseohyun
Member
this sounds bad
Phat Michael
Banned
Ok another game I was looking forward to and will now skip. Stop putting the emphasis on length and quantity over quality!
I don't have 400 hours to give a game or to be hunting for useless items in fetch quests!
I don't have 400 hours to give a game or to be hunting for useless items in fetch quests!
You'd be surprised at how people just make and squeeze time for their favourite hobbies.
Pff.. A completely empty claim if the locations are again all samey looking vaults, caves and subway stations with little variation between them.
Oblivion was my first Bethesda game and was an amazing experience at first..
But after going through 2 dungeons and seeing the 3rd one was pretty much the same but just with a diferent lay out my enthousiasm quickly dwindled.
There's just no substitue for decent level design. Just look at Bloodborne's Chalice Dungeons: they're 'OK' but pale in comparison to the tightly designed story levels.
Oblivion was my first Bethesda game and was an amazing experience at first..
But after going through 2 dungeons and seeing the 3rd one was pretty much the same but just with a diferent lay out my enthousiasm quickly dwindled.
There's just no substitue for decent level design. Just look at Bloodborne's Chalice Dungeons: they're 'OK' but pale in comparison to the tightly designed story levels.
To those of you who think you're brilliant comedians, churning out sad and clumsy one-liners all the time: You're not as funny as you think you are. Just keep it in mind, please.. for the love of god..
Anyway, it's just a hint at trying to build a big world, nothing more, much like Skyrim and Witcher 3. ..And of course the Fallout games, which are already big games. I guess it's more bad news for those of you who have a compulsive disorder or just can't stand not being able to know about every single piece of loot in an open world game (there's plenty of linear games out there, enjoy those..). But it's good news for the rest of us who can enjoy various amount of pieces of a detailed world without losing it. I spent about 300 hours in Skyrim, and I've done 120 hours so far in W3 (still going), so I like the sound of a big open world with lots of..stuff..in it.
Yup. Full time job here, wife and a 9 month old son (and I other hobbies as well..). My way is to cut down on the number of games I play (and sleep).
Anyway, it's just a hint at trying to build a big world, nothing more, much like Skyrim and Witcher 3. ..And of course the Fallout games, which are already big games. I guess it's more bad news for those of you who have a compulsive disorder or just can't stand not being able to know about every single piece of loot in an open world game (there's plenty of linear games out there, enjoy those..). But it's good news for the rest of us who can enjoy various amount of pieces of a detailed world without losing it. I spent about 300 hours in Skyrim, and I've done 120 hours so far in W3 (still going), so I like the sound of a big open world with lots of..stuff..in it.
Yup. Full time job here, wife and a 9 month old son (and I other hobbies as well..). My way is to cut down on the number of games I play (and sleep).
Did Fallout 3 actually have a "fetch quest" in it? You can finish the main story in like 4 hours, and I expect Fallout 4 to be similar. They play just as long as you want to play them for, and they don't really ever run out of content. It's not a "do everything and be done" game.
Chinbo37
Member
Procedurally generated rocks
JStein0222
Member
This made me laugh because I am actually a touring comedian haha.
It always makes me curious where these numbers come from. I get there's a lot of content, I get what they're trying to say...But after 500 hours will I have had to see everything? It just seems so silly to put a pin on the number 400. Like, couldn't he have just said "an unbelievable amount of hours"
Rhazer Fusion
Member
Not sure if I want the game to be that a big. Surely, we will see a plethora of side/fetch quests to contribute to those hours. Hopefully, the main game can be finished within a reasonable amount of time. I do not mind or even dislike very long games, but I don't want it to be ridiculously long.
BigTnaples
Todd Howard's Secret GAF Account
Not hard to believe at all. I've played Morrowind for thousands of hours and still have yet to see everything.
Geez, sounds like someone needs to lighten up a bit.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
No. The hours they said correspong to the playtime the majority of people are having. Between 70 and 120, and you can take even more if you do all the NOT side missions of icon hunting the whole map looking every nook and cranny.
The side missions and small stories are actually hand crafted content all with its own characters and dialogues and different with each other (not the usual rpg kill me 3 boars and bring me their skins).
That accounts for more thatn 100 hours of meningful content, something that bethesda wishes for.
Perfect Cha0s
Member
Roughly the size of Skyrim.
CecilRousso
Member
You don't have to spend 400h with it, just because there is 400h of content.
Phat Michael
Banned
The main quests will suffer as a result of this like with da:I. I just want a nice focused game where the main story is the main part and the side quests contribute to the main story. I think that the mass effect series have always done the main quests v side quests really well.
CecilRousso
Member
Yeah, but this isn't Mass Effect. It's a sequel in a established franchise, were the developers most likely won't stray that far away from the structure in the previous games. If you want something else then what Fallout 3/Skyrim offered, this is not the game for you.
What were you expectations on this game compared to the previous entries, before you read this 400h thing?
texhnolyze
Banned
I don't know, man. I never finish any of Bethesda's RPG except Morrowind. Though the worlds are huge and impressive, I always find myself overwhelmed and get bored.
I still remember my teacher's words: "If you put "too" in front of any word, it'll become a negative tone.". Indeed, Bethesda's games are too big with too much freedom and I don't think it's a good thing.
I still remember my teacher's words: "If you put "too" in front of any word, it'll become a negative tone.". Indeed, Bethesda's games are too big with too much freedom and I don't think it's a good thing.
Acquiescence
Member
Honestly, that kind of statement doesn't impress me much. Quite the opposite actually. The same could be said about Fallout 3 and Skyrim, and those games eventually bored me so much with the wealth of side content they offered (all those fetch quests and the same types of environments used over and over) that I just had to rush through the main story in the end so that I could end it all.
Said it before, I'll say it again - give me a ten hour campaign that's excellent from start to finish over a game that's so big tedium is almost a certainty any day of the week.
Said it before, I'll say it again - give me a ten hour campaign that's excellent from start to finish over a game that's so big tedium is almost a certainty any day of the week.
CecilRousso
Member
So, you don't want a Fallout game then?
Yup, we have Minecraft now. How long does it take to explore a full Minecraft world?
Quantity is no longer impressive on its own. Talk to me about quality.
BouncyFrag
Member
Just wait for the review thread. GAF might need to go to the mattresses, especially if it gets high scores across the board.
Any word on PS4 getting mod support for FO4?
We don't actually live in a world with No Man's Sky though.(yet)