siamesedreamer
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Tamanon said:
Seriously, that would be a catastrophic clusterfuck for her campaign.
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Seriously, that would be a catastrophic clusterfuck for her campaign.
miyamotofreak
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I think the President is the first stand of defense against it and if you pick someone is not going to defend then you're fucked.Ether_Snake said:
perfectchaos007
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siamesedreamer said:
Lots of candidates finished 3rd or 4th in Iowa or New Hampshire and still won the election. Like Bush for example. Ron Paul has a good shot in New Hampshire and he has the most money to spend there. Don't count him out
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That guy is not gay.
And he looks like an Indian Spock.
And he looks like an Indian Spock.
PhoenixDark
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Huckabee walked away with the debate - I was shocked. I figured Romney would hold off Rudy, thus setting up an interesting debate between the two. Instead Romney wabbled like I've never seen anyone wabble before, Rudy repeated the same shit, and McCain seemed to flail from enlightened statesman (ie on torture) to retarded talking point head (gays in the military).
Huckabee is going to get a lot of coverage this weekend which should propel him even farther. I doubt he'll beat Romney in Iowa due to the crazy amount of money Romney has put in the state, but he could make it real close
Huckabee is going to get a lot of coverage this weekend which should propel him even farther. I doubt he'll beat Romney in Iowa due to the crazy amount of money Romney has put in the state, but he could make it real close
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?coll=news_articles&sernum=2007/06/27/1&page=2
Names from Hillary's comittee
Names from Hillary's comittee
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HAHAHHA
This is pathetic. This guy is not having it easy.
This is pathetic. This guy is not having it easy.
siamesedreamer
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perfectchaos007 said:
Look, I like a lot of Paul's domestic positions. But, he will not win the GOP nomination with his foriegn policy stances. Let's be realistic here.
The problem is that over 20 states are going on February 5th. Only the top candidates with a ton of money in the bank will be able to compete that day. Which is why we're going to be stuck with either Gules or Roms.
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Bush, Clinton, Bush, Rudy or Clinton (same shit).
Notice a pattern?
Notice a pattern?
Ether_Snake said:
So you've propositioned him and he refused? Seriously. As a gay man I have to ask you, what the HELL? Why are you questioning his sexuality. And, lets say you're right (I'd guess you were wrong, but let's grant that). Is it still a valid question? Why should it matter to ANYONE whether or not Clinton planted the question? Are people of all ideologies not permitted to ask questions in a debate?
What the hell is the problem with answering the question from an AMERICAN. I did like one thing Huckabee said, that he'd be the President of ALL Americans. So suck it. I know I will be shortly.
siamesedreamer
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PhoenixDark said:
Huck has surged 12 points since Rasmussen's poll last month. He appears to be peaking at the right time. Still doesn't have enough money to compete long term though.
siamesedreamer
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Bill Bennett is losing a lot of credibility tonight with his frothing support of Romney. I mean...come on dude.
http://www.gay.com/news/article.html?coll=news_articles&sernum=2007/06/27/1&page=2
FYI, the General there, Keith Kerr *IS* on Clinton's campaign.
FYI, the General there, Keith Kerr *IS* on Clinton's campaign.
Stoney Mason
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siamesedreamer said:
I think if he is perceived as being a serious candidate, the money will start coming. I bet his fundraising is up even recently since he's been doing better in Iowa. But you are right in that it is very late in the game...
miyamotofreak
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MEGATONTamanon said:
PhoenixDark
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HawkeyeIC said:
Yeah, after tonight who knows. I'm shocked that the fundementalist leaders haven't jumped on Huckabee's bandwagon yet - it could work in the primaries
Rentahamster
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Tamanon said:
http://www.hillaryclinton.com/news/release/view/?id=2196
Ctrl-F Keith Kerr
Wow, CNN needs to hire some new background checkers. Unless this was intentional. *shrug*
Stoney Mason
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siamesedreamer said:
Bill Bennett lost a lot of credibility a long time ago... He isn't relevant anymore.
Tamanon said:
I think that's a little different, though not much. Hillary was passing those plants as genuine people asking genuine questions they wanted to know. In this case, as a gay former general I'm pretty sure it's his personal question because it's a policy he was affected by.
siamesedreamer
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Tamanon said:
WOW...Anderson talking about it now.
mckmas8808
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Why?PhoenixDark said:
siamesedreamer
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APF said:
There's no liberal media.
LOLAMIRITE
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I'm very concerned about several things I saw tonight:
1. Gays in the military - I was appalled at the answers the candidates gave tonight on this issue. At one point, the audience applauded (Hunter's?) answer that it would be bad for cohesion.
2. Immigration - WTF?! We are all in one way or another immigrants to this country. The current lawful process is broken and lets put it this way, someone in Russia (i.e.) who wants to come to the US legally shouldn't be holding their breath - I kid you not it takes somewhere between 5-15 years for this process to go through. So what is the solution these guys propose? Are we going to become a police state? Do what we did to the Japanese-Americans in WWII? Do what the English did in the movie Children of Man putting all the illegals in cages and jail?
Let me tell you guys something, I'm dreading 2008.
1. Gays in the military - I was appalled at the answers the candidates gave tonight on this issue. At one point, the audience applauded (Hunter's?) answer that it would be bad for cohesion.
2. Immigration - WTF?! We are all in one way or another immigrants to this country. The current lawful process is broken and lets put it this way, someone in Russia (i.e.) who wants to come to the US legally shouldn't be holding their breath - I kid you not it takes somewhere between 5-15 years for this process to go through. So what is the solution these guys propose? Are we going to become a police state? Do what we did to the Japanese-Americans in WWII? Do what the English did in the movie Children of Man putting all the illegals in cages and jail?
Let me tell you guys something, I'm dreading 2008.
Father_Brain
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siamesedreamer said:
Indeed you are.
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Gaborn said:
I was talking about the amateurish post-show host, the intern-like guy. And yeah it was a pointless comment even in that case
Go back and read my post on the gay veteran.
Oh let me find it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8752253&postcount=258
PhoenixDark
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APF said:
More then a few of the questions made me chuckle. I didn't get the impression that many conservatives or undecided voters were asking those questions...
mckmas8808 said:
I liked his overall point about focusing on the overall themes of the bible and implementing them in your life - the theological differences among people are rather irrelevent compared to the points of "the Christian life" - peace, love, etc.
Now Huckabee only needs to implement them into his beliefs; I thought his answer on capitol punishment really contradicted the things he had previously said
Ether_Snake said:I was talking about the amateurish post-show host, the intern-like guy. And yeah it was a pointless comment even in that case
Go back and read my post on the gay veteran.
Oh let me find it: http://www.neogaf.com/forum/showpost.php?p=8752253&postcount=258
Ahhh fair enough, I agree that veterans get shoved aside a little because they're too powerful. Just like Romney is afraid to answer questions directly from people in wheelchairs because they're in wheelchairs (he's opposed to medical marijuana, therefore he wants to avoid medical marijuana patients).
Stoney Mason
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PhoenixDark said:
They select among the field of submitted videos. How would you 100% know what anybody was on that basis and even still that is going to be balanced among providing interesting questions. Which questions weren't legit?
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It was still uncalled for for me to point out that the post-debate host is probably gay
Father_Brain
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Ether_Snake said:It was still uncalled for for me to point out that the post-debate host is definitely gay
Fixed, though that doesn't make it any more relevant.
Oops - were you referring to someone other than Cooper?
PhoenixDark
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Stoney Mason said:
I thought the religious questions suggested a certain bias, as did a couple of the abortion questions regarding what should happen to women who have illegal abortions. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with the questions, just that the intent was pretty obvious
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PhoenixDark said:
Yeah that whole capital punishment thing was bad
Stoney Mason
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APF said:
Is this about diamonds or pearls? Please tell me it's more...
Stoney Mason
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PhoenixDark said:
Well there is always going to be some form of bias in the framing of any questions but I didn't especially think those were biased. No more than other hypotheticals that generally get asked. The abortion question was certainly dumb however.
PhoenixDark
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mckmas8808 said:
Capitol punishment is the only political issue I mix religion in; I simply don't think man is qualified to make that decision. That decision requires infinite understanding of the case since it's a question of life or death, and no one is all knowing.
So yeah, Huckabee screwed up there big time to me. It's not like I'd vote for him either way, but I will say I was disappointed by his answer
PhoenixDark
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Thompson is so flat. When he has a nice opening for a joke he seems to gain some life, but outside of that he's usually dead on the stage.
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Father_Brain said:
Yes. Cooper is not gay. I bet he visits different clubs on the weekends hoping to hit it with the "wild youth of today" he used to report on in his Anderson 360 show, failing every time.
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