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Yuji Naka wishes to again pitch a Mario & Sonic action game to Takashi Iizuka (Sega)
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Voysa Reezun
Banned
Nintendo would never get Sonic's gameplay right, so it would need to be co-developed.
The idea sounds okay, but honestly, I don't think modern Sega is consistent enough to do it, and I don't think Nintendo has the capacity or talent to do it (just look at how Sega had to develop the best F-Zero game ever for them because Sega gets how to do speed-based gameplay in a way that Nintendo does not).
This sounds like a much better idea. RPG would be fine, but a platformer crossover would be pretty disappointing, most likely.
The idea sounds okay, but honestly, I don't think modern Sega is consistent enough to do it, and I don't think Nintendo has the capacity or talent to do it (just look at how Sega had to develop the best F-Zero game ever for them because Sega gets how to do speed-based gameplay in a way that Nintendo does not).
This sounds like a much better idea. RPG would be fine, but a platformer crossover would be pretty disappointing, most likely.
Take this shit post out of here
Professor Beef
Banned
That looks baller as fuck, so yes.
Have Sonic play in Mario's levels with a Sonic twist, and have Mario play in Sonic's levels with a Mario twist. The only hard part would be deciding how Mario would play. 2D, or like 3D World/Galaxy?
Hopefully developed by Sumo Digital. But that's only personal preference since I haven't enjoyed a Mario Kart since Double Dash.
This looks so wrong
Dark Cloud
Member
I don't get the appeal at all. I'm not sure if an action game with them both would be good.
I think when people hear this they think it'll be a Sonic game (with a Sonic-like story and gameplay) with Mario characters (without the great Mario gameplay mechanics) which is a huge turn off.
It'd need to be something totally new or different to actually become a good game, in my opinion. It needs to be more than a story driven Sonic/Mario mashup. It needs great gameplay comparable to real Mario games.
Mr Waluigi
Banned
Mario is becoming increasingly like Sonic, see Super Mario 3D World.
Sonici is becoming increasingly like Mario, see Sonic Lost World.
Nintendo has been more open about cross-overs and sharing their IPs around recently, and we know that their games are being made by younger developers now, who are bringing something more modern and creative to the games (see Breath Of The Wild).
And the M&S Olympic Games title are losing sales and popularity with every instalment.
The timing is just right for such a project to be approved. But it also does not fit with Nintendo's philosophy - first think up of new ways to make a game fun, then think up of everything else. How can Mario become better by being mixed with Sonic (and conversely, how can Sonic be made better by being mixed with Mario, without losing its identity along the way)? I believe that is the reason the project did not work out to begin with.
Sonici is becoming increasingly like Mario, see Sonic Lost World.
Nintendo has been more open about cross-overs and sharing their IPs around recently, and we know that their games are being made by younger developers now, who are bringing something more modern and creative to the games (see Breath Of The Wild).
And the M&S Olympic Games title are losing sales and popularity with every instalment.
The timing is just right for such a project to be approved. But it also does not fit with Nintendo's philosophy - first think up of new ways to make a game fun, then think up of everything else. How can Mario become better by being mixed with Sonic (and conversely, how can Sonic be made better by being mixed with Mario, without losing its identity along the way)? I believe that is the reason the project did not work out to begin with.
I don't care for the Mario part save for the novelty of seeing the crossover finally happen, but if the only way to get a well-designed 3D Sonic game is to have Nintendo supervising then sure, I want it.
We don't deserve Super Mario Bros. Z.
BodiesWithoutOrgans
Member
God yes please
Diddy Kong
Banned
baby please we can make this work
BocoDragon
or, How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Realize This Assgrab is Delicious
I'm imagining a 2D game where you have differing gates. Some use pipes and busting through bricks that only Mario can get through, some use loop-de-loops and other contraptions that only Sonic can get through.
Galactic Specter
Member
A Mario & Sonic kart racing game would be cool, just imagine a new Mariokart game that is balanced like SASRT.
It'd be great.
It'd be great.
Elfforkusu
Member
Ohshima and Naka want it to happen. Yasuhara is already working at NST.
Do it, assholes!
Do it, assholes!
Voysa Reezun
Banned
Yuji Naka is a genius. I'm not sure why you would feel that way about him. Rodea WiiU?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yuji_Naka#Works
Sure, when he's not producing. That steep decline in quality doesn't inspire much confidence, and I don't really expect him to do much programming in this day and age.
He was also producer through some of Sonic 06, which isn't listed.
BluePikmin11
Member
It would still be more of a buy to me than a new NSMB game.
Leafhopper
Banned
You could just make a RPG (Mario and Luigi or Paper Mario) and add some Sonic characters in it (Sonic, Tails, Knuckles and Amy at best) and have some unique team dynamics.
Then again maybe another studio make it that's possible too.
Then again maybe another studio make it that's possible too.
Galactic Specter
Member
Yeah, this is how I'd see it work. It'd be interesting how level gimmicks and power-ups would work in each style.
Plus, the idea of Sonic blasting through Bob-omb Battlefield and Mario jumping around Speed Highway just seems funny to me.
Sure, why not? A Mario & Sonic game has the potential to be great. Just get rid of that whole Olympics nonsense and build a solid platformer that suits both play styles. Easier said than done of course, but at least the developers won't longer be forced to build the game around the same old Olympic events each instalment.
Hehehehe.
I could see a MxS game with rivalry overtones... Make 'em hate each other again! Could be super cool, especially with level design.
I could only see it work if Sonic is severely hampered in some form: like he cannot jump. The fact his games are about finishing stages that'd take Mario far more time speaks a lot for how awkward it'd be to mesh their styles together.
And RPG could work but given the very iffy background of Sonic's attempts at storytelling, it'd feel a little too weird to see together with Mario.
And RPG could work but given the very iffy background of Sonic's attempts at storytelling, it'd feel a little too weird to see together with Mario.
I also want this.
This would be great! Best way to do a crossover IMO.
Galactic Specter
Member
Sonic Team have made some garbage Sonic games but to say a third-party character inclusion that was done at the last second does more justice to a character than anything the creators have done in 25 years is just silly.
SpacePirate Ridley
Member
Not even that for me, everything done by Nintendo. Full stop
yes, even music, I know about that sonic vs mario music thread
And Izuka and the rest of the Sonic Team gets a restrain order of staying 1km out of the building the game is being developed in.
This would also be acceptable. Imagine the team attacks!
Hades Hotgun
Banned
Isn't Mario straight up faster than Sonic? (edit: classic mario vs classic sonic)
Also, Sonic 1-3&K are platforming focused games that are about finding alternate routes, not speed and quick reaction. Generally speaking, the shitty Sonic games that people complain about are the ones with hold right and go fast mechanics.
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I guess I can see it. Mechanically, Sonic takes Toad's place and Tails takes Peach's?
IronicSonic
Member
Mario & Sonic Generations. Sonic plays Mario's most famous stages and Mario do the same in the Sonic world. I'm calling it
Not even close
That works terrible in F-Zero GX, I'll give you that
Poor Mario :'(
You know you are gona get a new Mario game developed by EAD anyway don't you?
Not even close
That works terrible in F-Zero GX, I'll give you that
Poor Mario :'(
You know you are gona get a new Mario game developed by EAD anyway don't you?
abstract alien
Member
No, it isn't. Sonic games age very badly, and even during their time of release aren't as good as most mainline Mario titles. You take stuff like Sonic Generations, which most deem a good game, and it's not even remotely close to something like the NSMB line. It may be silly when comparing it to other franchises and companies, but in this case, Nintendo created a great iteration of a character that has had a serious rollercoaster of a life(though still successful, somehow). Sega games age like shit, so this point compounds it.
Sir_Crocodile
Member
Only if Yasuhara is on board or EAD code everything
KojiKnight
Member
I'll try a sonic + Mario game made by EAD... I'll pass if it's by Sonic Team...
This would've been great for Mario & Luigi game if that franchise wasn't as stale-yet-omnipresent like old breadsticks at an Olive Garden.
However, taking the Generations route seems perfect! I'd love to see an attempt at a mesh, but that could easily backfire. Meanwhile, this seems pretty nail-on-the-head.
However, taking the Generations route seems perfect! I'd love to see an attempt at a mesh, but that could easily backfire. Meanwhile, this seems pretty nail-on-the-head.
SilverLunar
Member
How would this work without it feeling disjointed, or without compromising one of the two characters?
The posters here suggesting a Sonic Generation type scenario are asking for two different games smacked into one, which defeats the entire point of a unique cross over.
The posters here suggesting a Sonic Generation type scenario are asking for two different games smacked into one, which defeats the entire point of a unique cross over.
Are you talking sales or the game itself?
Cause i would take Generations any day of the week over NSMB. NSMB games may sell great but that series dropped off a cliff and is not my platformer of choice when i think Mario.
Davey Cakes
Member
To be honest, this is kind of how I feel.
Back when the very first announcement for Olympic Games was made, or even earlier (when the Mario & Sonic combo was hinted at) is around the time I would've been excited for this sort of game. That is, an action game with Mario & Sonic as opposed to a casual sports one or something else. But for me, that ship has sailed, and Smash kind of scratched the crossover itch anyway.
Plus I'm just not that into Sonic these days and putting him and Mario together isn't particularly enticing. I'd rather Mario games focus on expanding Mario's own universe.
outunderthestars
Banned
This right here. Sega doesn't have the talent to pull it off, and Naka is so far past his prime that it is just sad.
Randomizer
Member
If a true Mario x Sonic were to happen, Nintendo EPD would need to be the developers and Yuji Naka should have no involvement. It would also probably be the best game to feature Sonic lol.